posted August 01, 2021 02:37 PM            

I have reviewed the Sagittarius figures that I have had in my life ... And if they are not Satan, they are very close.

Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter, Zeus, they believe they are gods and they believe they are untouchable (I suppose that is why the next sign is Capricorn, with all its difficulties).

From the fact that they believe gods and they believe they are untouchable ... Macabre things can happen.

Sagittarius is the next sign of Scorpio (Scorpio is power). This means that Sagittarius is born with a subconscious knowledge of the laws that govern the universe. But while Scorpio,
He has that power, but he has to deal with all the suffering, which makes Scorpio take power responsibly, if he doesn't go over to the dark side. Sagittarius, no.

Well ... The Sagittarius figures in my life.

The first was my biological mother, who I mention as an example, but I have already broken all ties with that person.
This woman has endangered my life many times since I was born, I prefer not to go into details. She has never shown the slightest bit of compassion, let alone regret. She abandoned her children, and now she is afraid of dying on the street, and she does nothing but beg my brother (Capricorn), for a house and money.

The other Sagittarius figure is a woman, a neighbor of mine who has made me witchcraft and the evil eye since she met me.
Seriously, since I was 8 years old, I have been seeing a voodoo doll in her window, which belongs to me. When I was 8-9 years old, she taught me the voodoo doll
And she told me it was a doll to play with.
Besides that, when my parents left and left me alone, that woman would come to my house to bring me food, she would touch me, and at night she would curse me.

Something very beastly.

The other Sagittarius was a pedophile man. I'm not going to go into details, but this man was friends with my adoptive parents, and nothing good happened to him.

And well, more or less I have given the idea of ​​what I wanted to say.

I believe that while Gemini is apprentice to malevolent, Sagittarius is Satan.

PS: This is just my opinion, that no one take it personally.
I know that it cannot be generalized, and I have also met different Sagittarians.

posted August 01, 2021 03:12 PM            

In a generalized, archetypal sense, Aries (mid Aries specifically) is the most selfish and self focused Sign of the Zodiac.

Satan is about selfishness and seeing itself as separate from the rest of Creation and the Oneness of the Whole. Satan rejects Love and interconnection.

So, if there were a "Satan of the Zodiac", then Aries being the most selfish/self centered Sign in the archetypal sense, would be the closest.

But it's still not accurate, and I've met old Soul, loving, fast vibratory people with strong Aries, including Sun, Rising, Moon, Venus, etc. I'm also met some real d!cks with strong Aries, and then everything in between these two extremes.

In fact, one person I considered a sort of spiritual teacher for awhile, one Bruce Moen who is an Aries Sun. But he had Libra Rising with Neptune and Arcturus Rising/in his 1st House. And Sun pretty strong as it was close to the horizon.

posted August 01, 2021 03:47 PM            

I was abused by several men as a kid. I can tell you only ONE was a Sag. As an adult two bad Sag relationships yet it was a SYNASTRTY. Issue. Not a stain upon the person's involved. You have to get away from looking at this so categorically.

Yes, there are bad people out there. Most which were abused and *never resolved to see themselves as abused* and willing to work through their own demons. If a person can't face those - like a virus it will spread. I'm certain my abusers were also as children mistreated-abused. This is one reason I forgave them. TBH we don't know WHEN or IF another ever heals those behaviors. I used to be a heavy drinker. Could people believe I still am yet not see me but believe I am? They might. Maybe not. Lazy thinking and how can your Soul heal if you can't break from that mold of thinking??
How *self* centric that is to think I'm viewed to change yet *they never can*?

Pls DON'T QUOTE ME:
You have to heal and see that maybe not everyone heals but you can not perceive them as always remaining as they were.
Their acts should not be thrown upon the alike/similar astro signs to them.
I don't read up on percentage of those who do shed those unfavorable ways - we can't
live stuck in that though. You have to worry about YOU and picking new people to know, love etc.

You can't have it by a single sign.
for instance, I married a Cancer/ Sag/Aries. He's a good man. Guess what - I was nearly murdered and molested (@9/10) by an Aries. I had horrible abuse done to me as a child (Sagittarius and an Earth sign I don't know ALL the signs either). More from two bfs as an adult were Sag and a Cancer was very cruel to me. Yet I am not judging him on his signs. Guess what. He's been a loving, kind and good person, partner.

posted August 01, 2021 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Any sign can be a real d1ck, too.

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Of course, and that is the deeper point.

posted August 01, 2021 04:09 PM            

Famous Sagittarius.

Personally, this woman scares me.
[IMG]https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/sports-illustrated-model-tyra-banks-attends-si-swimsuit-on-news-photo-1568753085.jpg[/IMG]

Another Sagittarius woman. Scares me hehe
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/1/2933/original/christine-teigen-photo-u52?auto=format&q=60&fit=crop&fm=pjpg&w=375

Sagittarius man. He has the same essence, it scares me very much.
https://i.insider.com/5b85bf933cccd11e008b45bf?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp

Another Sagittarius.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/jeff-bridges-arrives-at-the-76th-annual-golden-globe-news-photo-1568753042.jpg

I see an evil aura in this sign, in general.

Of course I know that not all Sagittarians are like this.

posted August 01, 2021 04:10 PM            

And on a personal note, I'm so, so, so sad and angry that those things happened to you (or to anyone). I really hope that one day, all of humanity will rise above these kind of unspeakable evils, wrongs, and hurtfulness to each other.

posted August 01, 2021 04:28 PM            

I am aware that abuse can come in all forms

posted August 01, 2021 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Well said MoonMystic.

And on a personal note, I'm so, so, so sad and angry that those things happened to you (or to anyone). I really hope that one day, all of humanity will rise above these kind of unspeakable evils, wrongs, and hurtfulness to each other.

I see that day off over the horizon, but it will take quite a bit to get there more fully.

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Yes. These things are unfortunate, but hey, we live in this world and we have to accept it.

This thread is for discussion.

A person is much more than a birth chart. Free will exists

posted August 01, 2021 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:

A person is much more than a birth chart. Free will exists

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Yes, I very much agree with this.

posted August 01, 2021 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Yes, I very much agree with this. Btw, you can please erase your quote of MoonMystic's reply? She specifically asked that no one quote that reply.

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posted August 01, 2021 04:41 PM            

I wasn't sharing to have you feel sad. I was trying to show you how differently you can take this this criteria than how you have been.

I'm a lot of those signs you deem as characterized as abusers. Sag Ac.
Mars IC, Maybe less in terms of my planets but my Mars is absolutely in Aries
I would never, never, nevee do what was done to me. As you can tell I can be mouthy. Hence my impulsive nature. Yet tbh impulsive nature is not all sexual/violence etc.

A shouting match might be heard by them (fire). Water people throw tantrums. Air people have sharp tones (words) and Earth people can be methodical and soften the impulsiveness within. It's there, just less obvious - they may even go very quiet. In the end we carry everything within us. Transits may culminate different portions of our charts for a period. We may get activated by Pluto, Mars at some point and become vicious in any way. *Understanding of self is the art of Astrology.* So that we can be our better versions. Have a clearer view.
Not to descrimiante.

Have you studied ALL your charts? You can't play that game with the wheel "step on a crack break your m ..
" .. you know that old one probably. There's no bypassing these signs, the wheel turns, it lands where it does. This is astrology.

posted August 01, 2021 04:43 PM            

Is saggy restless and don't necessarily want to get married or have a strong need to get married? Yes

Is saggy blunt and not politically correct? Yes

Can saggy get bored and want to explore new territory? Yes

Are saggy women or men into married folks LOL? I am a saggy riser ect and there is nothing more hot than a guy who is unattached and free IMO and when I find out a guy is married or in a relationship I tend to lose complete interest in them so I guess it depends on the saggy, definitely cannot generalize this one.

Are all saggy people big and plum? No, there are plenty of saggies who are fit or slender or average.

Are all saggy people obnoxious and judgemental or religious fanatics? Well I just started seeing a client who is a cancer with moon in saggy and venus in gemini and he used to go to sex parties, there are plenty of saggies who just love freedom and to explore and be wild childs forever to some extent even if they settle down with someone but yes there are also saggies who are judgemental or religious fanatics, also plenty who are atheists.

Are Saggy people Satan? LMAO, I know you are serious but I cannot dignify this with an answer, so no comment.

posted August 01, 2021 04:46 PM            

"IMO and when I find out a guy is married or in a relationship I tend to lose complete interest in them "

My honest opinion on that it is not an astrology point, moreso a *daddy* issue one. Without going off topic it is more psyche scaring that I see as the culprit.
Those who go for attached mates.

posted August 01, 2021 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
@Hypatia

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posted August 01, 2021 04:48 PM            

But if you really wanna study astrology from a biblical point of view, you could read "Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil" By Liz Greene, as she touches on the subject quite a bit and gives quite nice and thorough examples (in a none shamey or -evil way)

posted August 01, 2021 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
I don't think Sagi is Satan, but it is influenced by Jupiter, which is expansion and excess. If the person in question is already a bad person or with a malignant disorder or is pathological, then it will mean an "excess" of those bad things, excess and expansion of. It's about the character of the person.

But if you really wanna study astrology from a biblical point of view, you could read "Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil" By Liz Greene, as she touches on the subject quite a bit and gives quite nice and thorough examples (in a none shamey or -evil way)

I'm actually wondering if you maybe share a similar chart to "LittleBlackCat" who I believe feels similarly, because they brought up this thread about sagi interestingly enough:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/235657.html

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What an interesting thread. Thanks for handing it to me.
She has very interesting points, like that Sagittarius is represented by half human and half animal, and she draws all her conclusions from there.
I guess it also plays a role.
I have drawn my conclusions from the fact that Sagittarius is the next sign of Scorpio, and is born knowing the laws of the universe, but Sagittarius does not have the values ​​of Scorpio, And that can lead to disaster.

I have also read about Sagittarius behaviors, and their obvious fascination with the occult and yet showing it to the world.
A Scorpio is very difficult to act like this, except if he is in a very strong survival mode and doesn't really know what to do (rare in Scorpio).

Very interesting thread, I will continue reading.
Glad to know that I'm not the only person who sees something strange in Sagittarius 😅

The Gemini - Sagittarius axis has always seemed macabre to me, behind the friendly and funny air that these two signs have.

posted August 01, 2021 05:48 PM            

There are abusers of any sign and there is an art to manipulating statistics if you want to push for a narrative too even if we go that route were things are supposed be studied in an unbiased way.

posted August 01, 2021 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Oh, come on. Nobody is satan. The sadgies I know are the best.

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