posted September 28, 2021 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
The California Recall is gonna be very telling.

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The California recall showed that they were fine with news on, and don’t want a trump-like governor. So each, it was very telling.

posted September 29, 2021 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by kewf1988:

Vaccine mandates have nothing to do with freedom, but safety and public health.

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Bodily autonomy is the basis of all rights and freedoms. Without the right to say no — without punishments or reprisals — to anything proposed to go in your body you are not in charge of yourself. The state or some other shifting (un-responsible) entity becomes the de facto owner of your body.

Your arguments have some validity for responsibilities we share in common spaces outside our bodies. They don't justify violations of bodily autonomy.

posted September 29, 2021 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
But this isn’t an astrology discussion.

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So put some astrology in it — if you have any to give.

The debate and various responses in this thread reaffirms what I've said about the Pluto return. It is a power reset. Some people are willing to give up the power of their bodily autonomy in order to get the illusion of safety. The rest of us are not.

The total range of motion by Pluto during its return brings up all the issues inherent to Pluto in the US natal chart. Pluto touches of 8 natal position of the US chart.

This is a complex scenario in which not only issues of power reset are addressed as to government (MC) and the nation's ideals (Neptune/9th), but divisions or the tendency for division. That is seen in the opposition Pluto makes to natal Mercury, and the contra-parallels to natals Sun, Venus, Jupiter, and Mars. One way to summarize those aspects of opposition/contra-parallel is a tendency to dramatize, lie about, create hyperbole related to differences and to turn them into divisions of resentment, even war. It's the innate tendency that led to the civil war.

With the Pluto return, many of the US issues with power are coming home for a reckoning. The US has externalized its use of power for over a century in the form of military invasions, many on false or flimsy pretenses. As a nation, we now must deal with the infrastructures we allowed to be built up on an authoritarian basis, not only in our military industrialization, but in [i]all industrialized practices, including medicine. Industralized medicine is factory conveyor belt production of one-size-fits-all products. Check out Charles Eisenstein's excellent essay, Beyond Industrial Medicine.

None of the infighting we see here and elsewhere between ordinary folks does any of us a damned bit of good. You gain nothing by it, except the momentary affirmation of any delusions you carry of your own moral superiority.

The battleground has been framed thus far by a battle plan laid out by corporate for-profit interests (often fronted by non-profits and so-called philanthropists) to homogenize humanity into a submissive, amorphous blob who continues to believe in old worn out germophobias and security fears — all the authoritarians have left to control the populace after the information revolution of the internet.

The internet gave us the instant ability to communicate world-wide with any kind of person anywhere in the world with any type of background. It established a tool for us all seeing our common humanity in very real terms. It is the new age Gutenberg Press. That instant linking of all humanity is democratic chaos to those who want to maintain the old authoritarian control mechanisms governments (and non-government entities like banks) have long used to dominate others while pretending to serve them. All they've got left is fear.

Governments have long been inhabited by those who get some kind of enjoyment from telling others what to do. For centuries now, many persons who enjoy the power of monarchy can get it in bite sized pieces, at least so long as they can hold on to a position of power. And that is the conventional notion of power: influence > power over others > dominance > force. Force of law is the imagined, but very real, gun to the head of the common person.

Americans will ultimately reject such uses of force. It may be ugly, long and drawn out, but we did not choose to end Mutually Assured Destruction in favor of peace only to visit such M.A.D.ness upon ourselves. Plenty of people will say No! And they will serve as leaders by example for the less courageous to follow ... eventually.

posted October 06, 2021 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Bumping for Stephaanieew

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posted October 07, 2021 01:22 PM            

http://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/07/politics/senate-judiciary-committee-investigation-trump-2020-election/index.html

posted October 07, 2021 08:05 PM            

“We thought about the possibility that we could face situations in some states where laws might be passed to counter a decision that we might make and what the implications of that might be,” said Brett J. Hart, the airline’s president. “That legal risk did not trump the possibility of keeping some of our team members, who otherwise wouldn’t be here, alive.” The airline said dozens of its employees had died after coming down with Covid.

United executives said they were surprised that positive feedback from politicians, customers and the public far outweighed the criticism it received.

posted October 13, 2021 12:32 AM            

And what does it tell us that it was retro and not direct???

posted October 13, 2021 06:33 PM            

we def are shedding our skin and transforming, and will be better when we come out on the other side. but there will continue to have growing pains.
God give us strength!

posted October 14, 2021 09:26 AM            

One thing I have personally witnessed is the major disconnect between the masses and then the authoritarians. Like the masses are actually feeling one way but the media and authoritarian structures are desperately telling you that they are feeling another way. One example of this just this week is the Southwest debacle where they swore that flights were cancelled due to bad weather which everyone knew was BS. Now some can say that mandates have to do with it but let's assume that it was not even because of the mandates, the point is that Southwest flat out lied and others easily caught on to that lie. Maybe it was some internal issue and mixups but they are trying their hardest to blame the weather and they got caught.

The other mixup that went viral is the Lets Go Brandon where the MSNBC reporter tried to blatantly lie about what the crowd was saying. It is the desperation by mainstream media to cover up how people actually feel. I think Biden's approval is a lot lower than 38% but that's my own opinion, I am not here to debate the politics as much as I am to call out the BS.

I even look at the Instagram pages of a lot of our leading establishment politicians and find that the comments which receive the most likes and are the most popular are people calling them out constantly. You see YouTube comments on even heavily moderated mainstream channels and how White House videos uploaded get so many thumbs down compared to thumbs up.

Then you have these massive protests across the world concerning vaccine mandates and all the media can do is really cover it up. Meanwhile, underground Youtube channels are showing how you masses gathering in the streets to protest the mandates.

posted October 20, 2021 07:23 PM            

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posted October 20, 2021 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
There is no power coming to the people--just the opposite.
People need to read 1984 by Orwell. That is what is coming and is already here to a large extent but will get worse

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posted October 20, 2021 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
There is no power coming to the people--just the opposite.
People need to read 1984 by Orwell. That is what is coming and is already here to a large extent but will get worse

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posted October 20, 2021 10:22 PM            

Now I look around at how social media and technology has helped me to wake up to some of the deep-rooted corruption in our country. Without social media and the access to information being so easy, I would have easily bought whatever nonsense CNN was selling me and never considered how rigged the 2020 election was, how much Democrats cheat to win, and how they are reporting fake news after fake news.

posted October 21, 2021 07:22 AM            

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