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elise11
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posted November 10, 2021 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys,
we've separated ten years ago because of circumstances which didn't allow us to be together, however, not only have I never forgot about him, but he has in all the time always inspired my creativity and my life purpose. Now he has moved to my hometown again, with his wife and kid . Of course I don't want to meddle with his family. Also with his being aqua/cap heavy, he will stick to what he has established and in no way show me possible emotions from his side. In fact, if he wants, he can appear exceptionally cold and detached. However, although our synastry/ composite may be difficult, I see and feel a heavy karmic load, at least from my side.
My question is: What do you see? Could he still have feelings for me? Will he share his feelings in the future? When will be the best time to reach out to him again? At them moment we even live in the same street and bump into each other frequently, however, he does not open up. I know he has a bad conscience, because once ago when we were intimate, there were other people involved.

His birth dates: 6.February, 1992, Darmstadt, Germany, 6.30
Mine: 2.May, 1981, Mannheim, Germany, 13.45

Thank you for your help, Jessi ❤️

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saronna
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posted November 10, 2021 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's difficult cause he's married & got a kid. He could have feelings for you. I married my three soulmates. It's difficult cause one soulmate is married & has a kid. Other soulmate is living with a older woman & in America. & another soulmate is living with his girlfriend & has a kid but it works

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elise11
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posted November 10, 2021 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your answer!
Do you say that based on the charts or is it your personal experience?

I'm happy for you that you are still intimate or were in close contact with your soulmates ❤️

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 11, 2021 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a lot of Tau. In particular Venus in Taurus. You tend to take a long time to detach and move on.

I just don't see how you can be happy in this situation. Everything you asked was about him & not about you.

Cap is cold energy ime and can be VERY direct. He has given you 0 reason to hold out hope. And yet here you are.
🤷🏿‍♂️

I hope the transits of Sat/Its jointly shake off what little sentimentality there is about this match up. Or you expand your world a little. Coz I really don't see a point in hanging on to that Aqua.🙏🏿

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Belage
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posted November 11, 2021 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear. An old flame that you have never forgotten moves back into your hometown and now lives on the same street WITH HIS WIFE & KID, and you bump into each other again?

I don't know if I could handle this type of situation.
I would have to do something to break that stalemate: Either confront him or relocate.

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Belage
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posted November 11, 2021 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I didn't give you an astrological answer. sorry.

Can you post each chart? I would love to look at the synastry...

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elise11
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posted November 11, 2021 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for answering❤️ and for your sympathy also!
The thing with the charts is: I've tried to post them several times in the past, which never worked out for me, which is also why I only write today (I would have written years earlier!)
As this is really a matter of heart to me and also not casual, could I ask someone of you to post it 😕😕?

The birth dates are:
him: Feb,6. 1992, Darmstadt, Germany, 06.30; Mine: May, 2, 1981, Mannheim, Germany, 13.45

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elise11
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posted November 11, 2021 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the problem is.. I have a husband and kid, too, now 😳 Which is why the whole situation is without focus anyway. I am happy with my own family, however, he has always been in the back of my mind when I sometimes daydream etc. Back then (10 years ago) he was very much in love, but our love was not possible for certain good reasons. His last email was: you are kind of the woman of my dreams and we do not have to talk about it, you know I will always think about you! See why it has been hard to forget him (him saying this as a heavy cap after some time knowing me already) 😳 So I kept him in my dreams all the time whenever I needed his "energy" and was actually quite happy with that. I was thus rather shocked, that he has turned so ice cold. He has always been cold and detached, but his eyes have always been dreamy when looking at me. They are not anymore and I do not understand why, as I myself have not changed for the worse, rather the better, and I know he still likes my looks, values, etc. etc. I have in fact reached out to him via an email in the summer, telling him I still liked him and also that I still dream about him, asking him to be more open with me as regards his thoughts and feelings. (He knows that I am happy with my family anyway, the point is not about whether hooking up again or not). He has answered quite seriously and more or less long. Saying we both have a family, he does like to keep the contact as it is= bumping into each other, which is, of course, reasonable. At the end he said: Of course I still like you, too, of which I wondered if it was meant platonically or even out of sympathy, but then I wonder if I had written this to someone for whom my feelings had changed. He has always written quite serious emails which were hard to decipher in terms of what he feels, even when he truly liked me. The point is, I have not got my answer. Then I think he is just not interested the slightest, from his reaction, and the next moment I remember that he once was really madly in love for a longer time and really liked my personality very much. After the email, when bumping into each other, he fixed me with his eyes until he reached me, when approaching me on the same side of the sidewalk. To show me he takes me serious😔

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Belage
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posted November 11, 2021 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at your respective charts. There are entanglements like his chiron exactly conjunct your north node in his 7th house. There are no other significant conjunction contacts between you two.

HEAVILY CAPP & AQUA: He is the kind of person who does not make decisions based on feelings and he can be calculating and pragmatic.

MOON IN PISCES: his moon shows a basic emotional and dreamy nature, but it is opposed by his Jupiter, so his emotions can go up and down, and because of that, he often does not trust his own emotions.

His capp/aqua stellium fall in YOUR 5th house of love affairs, so you feel a lot for him. But you do not have any planets falling in HIS 5th house. It is quite possible you feel more love than he does. Sorry.

Your sun does make a sextile aspect with his moon, so there is a basic likeability, but that's not enough to make for a very strong attraction, especially since his chart ruler, Saturn is square your Sun.

You have no planets that conjunct his Venus and MOon, his emotional planets... No planets conjunct his nodes. No planets in his 7th house, other than your North Node which is a powerful aspect I contend. For him, having chiron in 7th natally shows some kind of wound regarding his marriage. Perhaps your North Node conjunct his chiron there keeps you two thinking about each other...


So I would say that for the most part, he has moved on... And it's time for you to move on too. It is more difficult for you to let go of the dreams and emotions because you have natally Chiron conjunct Venus.

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elise11
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posted November 12, 2021 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your insights and your time!
As you can imagine, I have brooded over the charts quite a while. I thought my own stellium more or less conjunct his IC and square/ trine many of his planets could trigger emotions for him, especially as a cancer DC and as Venus (close to his IC) is my strongest planet?
Does the Sun (my 1st house ruler) square his mercury (his 5th+7th house ruler) not produce any emotions on his side? How about my Venus square his sun (=secondary 7th ruler)?
Then I have gone so far: My moon contra parallel his moon (7th house ruler), and my moon antiscion exactly on his Jupiter= opposite his moon. And my sun sextiling his moon completing a kite in his chart being opposite Jupiter.
Hmm.. sometimes you take every straw you have 😐

As regards his Chiron in the 7th/ marriage wound, you are completely right: his parents have separated when he was young (his dad cheated on his mum) and he has never got over it. He was always searching for the ideal marriage, him being so heavy cap= the traditional one, loving each other from young age and a life long. I wonder if he has found it with his wife, however, as far as I can observe things, I am not so sure.

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AlmaRegulus
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posted November 12, 2021 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
elise11, build a Draconic synastry. You will see that your Taurus planets are all in Capricorn in Draconic. Where he has his tropical planets. So he is important for your soul to develop these qualities.

You can also search for conjunctions and oppositions Draco to Draco and Draco to natal. What I wrote was what I saw from the first glance, but maybe there's more.

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AlmaRegulus
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posted November 12, 2021 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It also jumped out from the first glance that in regular synastry you have MC - IC conjunctions.

And - I don't know if this midpoint matters, I am actually wondering about it myself - but your NNode/Chiron conjunction is right on the midpoint between his Dsc and your Asc.

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AlmaRegulus
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posted November 12, 2021 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In tropical you also have Asc-Vertex conjunctions double-whammy, one tight and one loose. It's a soulmate aspect although some people say that often it's a relationship which never gets off the ground. This is what explains your longstanding connection. In the composite you also have loose Dsc-Vertex conjunction with Pluto inbetween.

Also, your Valentine - his Antivertex, your Vertex - his Mars & Neptune, his Vertex - your Vesta.

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AlmaRegulus
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posted November 12, 2021 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can read this topic, doesn't it resemble something?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/011342.html

In their case it was Dsc-Vertex (loose) conjunctions DW in synastry and Dsc-Vertex conjunction in composite, so a bit different from yours.

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elise11
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posted November 12, 2021 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all so much for your answers!
It is as if finally something in me is leaking and maybe everything will resolve.
In fact, AlmaRegulius,he has been incredible important for my soul growth in all these years. I really feel with all my flesh and soul that I need him, still do, although speculations about his feeling/ not feeling for me have always hurt me a lot and do again now that I hear your answers.
However, I am in fact in a happy reality-relationship and maybe I need him hurting me somehow (as you said, my Venus conjunct Chiron, his Chiron on my NN) to evolve on a deeper level.
In fact, 10 years ago he has triggered my life-purpose, which is writing fiction (beside from my main job)= see my mercury on my MC, Neptune on the 5th house cup exact biquintile to MC/venus/mercury/ Chiron which I have found out only later, which I have done since then every day.
This connection for me is really deep and astonishing, still!
Of course I hope, it has not become completely one sided. Actually, a friendship or deeper connection later in life would also do.
You are right, AlmaRegulus, our IC/MC axis more or less conjunct, my MC+chart ruler Venus+chiron on his IC, his MC ruler Pluto loosely conjunct my IC.
Do you have more insights in Draco regarding him feeling connected to me?
I have not tried Draco yet but certainly will this day!

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zionkay
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posted November 13, 2021 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zionkay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
elise11, build a Draconic synastry. You will see that your Taurus planets are all in Capricorn in Draconic. Where he has his tropical planets. So he is important for your soul to develop these qualities.

You can also search for conjunctions and oppositions Draco to Draco and Draco to natal. What I wrote was what I saw from the first glance, but maybe there's more.


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elise11
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posted November 13, 2021 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have checked Draconics AlmaRegulus and it is all of his planets except for his moon in my tropical signs and vice versa.
His d - sun +mercury conjunct my tropical sun +mars. His d- mars conjunct my moon.
My d- Venus/mercury/ MC conjunct his Venus/AC.

Still I have decided to move on. Just for the fact that me not really activating his 7th house through an overlay and his ruler only through a sextile from my sun (although it is from my 1st house ruler, but at the same time square his 1st house ruler Saturn) probably in fact means too little affection from his side.
Thank you al lot, all of you.
By the way: This is all an internal thing with him going on, a bit like a "muse", so he activated me in phases when I need energy etc., still it would have been nice to know he feels a bit similar.

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