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charlie
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posted December 18, 2021 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would, maybe, indicate this by transit and/or progression?

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 18, 2021 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great subject and very interesting, 👍
but wouldn't it maybe be better if everybody would postpone it a while until after Christmas to January,
because there might be some people reading here who lost a child...
missing them around Christmas...😔
Sorry, I'm sure you meant well, don't want to criticize you at all, 🏵️
just thinking about some people here I know about...

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GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted December 18, 2021 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good and sensitive point HeavenlyLove.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 18, 2021 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Galactic, maybe somebody could bump the thread in January...(?) ☃️❄️

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posted December 18, 2021 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gatekeeping, coddling or walking on eggshells wont resolve someones trauma or make it less.. imo this type of treatment makes it worse in the long run. one wont learn to stand if others keep forcing them into a wheelchair. empowerment comes when one learns to not let others be responsible for their pain.

(i am sure you meant well too HeavenlyLove but i disagree completely)

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 18, 2021 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sauerkraut,

and I agree completely, in average circumstances...which these are not in this case in my oppinion.

I don't know if you saw that a mother here lost her daughter very suddenly, without being able to say goodbye, just around middle of August or beginning of September.
So that will be her first Christmas without her daughter...they were very close, she's devestated...
Being a mother and loosing your child is the biggest pain there is in the world, I guess...😔

(Also some others here lost loved ones recently)

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Sauerkraut
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posted December 18, 2021 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(hi)

pain is purely subjective. nobodys deepest pain should be considered average and there is no hierarchy or gauge on which trauma is more painful. i have lost a lot of loved ones and have ptsd from other experiences so i do understand the extra pain from triggers, but putting rules on others to cater to someones triggers is something i just dont agree with.

i guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree. <3

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posted December 19, 2021 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal in the parent could show the deep pain asteroids prominently

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 19, 2021 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mind disagreeing, we may all have our own oppinions. 🙂🌻
In a forum like this it's not always easy to find an as much as possible 'objective' truth
or 'right', appropriate and loving way to do something, because communication is so limited
and misunderstandings/misperceptions happen, specially here,
people assume a lot instead of asking (not adressed to you at all or anybody specific).

I was just asking and suggesting something,
using the word 'maybe' twice, 'shouldn't' in a question and 'could' and '(?)'
I tried hard not to be putting any rules...
But you could't see my emotions ofcourse.

But I do feel very strongly from out my heart, that somebody has to be protected here
in this very special situation (my Mars in Leo holding up a shield in front of her). 🦁🛡️

Maybe I'm wrong, 🤷 but that's what my heart beat lets me feel.

Galactic and I have communicated with her weeks ago...💗😔

Sorry Charlie (the OP), what do you think ?

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GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted December 19, 2021 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also agree with Saurerkraut as well. But I find truth and what is best for a particular situation is usually a relative thing, and depends on the specific situation, individuals, etc involved.

Meaning, it can change some depending. There are no hard and fast rules of best behavior that apply to all, the exact same, all the time, but if the intention is to to consider others, to help others, then at least one's karma and conscience is clear. Fire energy often seeks to rip the band aid off, while Water energy seeks to soothe the wound, Earth is kind of in the middle of these or sits back and does nothing, thinking, "they will handle it on their own in their own time", and Air tries to lift up the perception to a higher/more expanded one. They all have their place, at different times.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted December 19, 2021 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, always depends on the people and the whole situation, I agree...


My idea was, to now let this thread because of the headline 'Death of Child'
just vanish to the bottom until January...
If Charlie should be ok with it (?)

I hear nothing, so I hereby declare 📜👸📯

this thread officially for temporarily ⏳
closed. 🔒

(without any dominant intentions whatsoever from my side ofcourse) 🗡️🦁🛡️👑


Wanna post something anyway ?
There's NOT plenty of room for more...💣

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFQgxyQo6SE

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Randall
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posted December 28, 2021 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 07, 2022 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

📜👸📯

I hereby declare this thread as re-opened again.🔓🗝️


I really appreciate very much that you all were so accepting about what I did and therefore possibly helping somebody else here...🙏

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Belage
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posted January 07, 2022 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heavy subject.

On a lighter note, HeavenlyLove, where do you get such cute emojis?

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 07, 2022 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had even more, but these appear automatically when I click on the emoji symbol in my virtual keybord of my tablet.
For example :

🐌🍻💒👾🚽👘👩‍⚕️🔬��🔮♐🕉️🇱🇰🤑

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posted January 07, 2022 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
I wish I had even more, but these appear automatically when I click on the emoji symbol in my virtual keybord of my tablet.

🐌🍻💒👾🚽👘👩‍⚕️🔬🧙🔮♐🕉️🇱🇰🤑


I am going to steal some.

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Belage
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posted January 07, 2022 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a heavy subject.

Should we also include miscarriage?

And more controversially, abortions?

I know a woman who had multiple abortions when Pluto was transiting her 5th house. She was madly in love and involved in a very plutonic relationship with a man who didn't want her to carry the pregnancies to terms.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 07, 2022 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it is better to write about all those subjects under this headline, because a specific one for abortions would attract people who would turn the thread into a political battlefield,
and 3 headlines for seperate threads would hurt some even 3 times as often when reading them...

But there should be some place to talk about the subjects.

But it's Charlie's thread, these were just my ideas, I won't just take things into my hand again, that was an exception...sorry Charlie.

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posted January 07, 2022 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m the one who lost my daughter suddenly in August.
2 days before my birthday. Her autopsy was performed on my birthday.
Her passing was close to my solar return I guess u can say.

Heavenly I appreciate you thinking of me and my feelings. That’s very sweet of you.
Yes the holidays were very rough.
I’m not on much. Just trying to keep my head up.

I’m not in any way offended if someone needs to have this topic. Especially if they or someone close to them is going through it. .
I also would like to know the transits or what to look for. Honestly I can’t see anything in my chart that really shows it, but I guess I’m missing it.
I do have T Pluto on my natal NN. 🤷🏼‍♀️.

If anyone to chime in what transit to look for. I will gladly look.

I’m willing to be a case study. I would like to know what it was. Hope I never have a transit like this again 😪

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 07, 2022 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Lioness,

hope you are feeling at least slightly better sometimes.
Remember, she can look at you and then see you, and one day you will meet again...🤗
She's just on a longer holiday abroad...

Just a little reminder...🌺🏵️🌺

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posted January 07, 2022 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m ok hanging in there.
Just passed the 5 month mark.
Been having a hard time sleeping. I keep reliving that day over and over. Like I’m stuck on ground hog day.

One day at a time. That’s all I can do. Some days are really really bad, other days aren’t as bad 🤷🏼‍♀️.

I jus miss her a lot and want her to come home.
She doesn’t 😪

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 07, 2022 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

😢 🤗🤗🤗


I know sleeping can be a problem when you are depressed.
Do you take magnesium ? That can help you to sleep and to relax your nervous system.
Don't know if it helps sufficiantly in this situation, but maybe a bit...

Also healthy food, vitamins, other minerals...

Maybe because you're re-living this day over and over you could think about grieving therapy (?)

But maybe you hear all kinds of advice all the time and you know that already.

I just had to cry a bit with you...😢

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Randall
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posted January 15, 2022 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 15, 2022 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto transits

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Randall
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posted January 18, 2022 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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