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Topic: What Rising Sign Do You Think Hugh Jackman Has?
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InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 09:43 AM
No birth time, but I'm curious what you guys think!IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 10:32 AM
His chart : http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jackman,_Hugh Some musical/stage/acting performances : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PluaPvhkIMU http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3E2m5RRZNS0 I guess a fire ascendant, he has difinetely more fire than his chart can show so far without birth time. I think eigther Leo AC around the degree which is sextiling his Sun and Moon or Sag AC, where it's sextiling his Sun, opposing his Moon. I very strongly see and feel his Libra Sun expressed by his ascendant and also his Moon (feelings), but specially his Sun. Have to look deeper into the chart and his videos first, that was my spontanous guess so far... IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by HeavenlyLove: His chart : http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jackman,_Hugh http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PluaPvhkIMU http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3E2m5RRZNS0 I guess a fire ascendant, he has difinetely more fire than his chart can show so far without birth time. I think eigther Leo AC around the degree which is sextiling his Sun and Moon or Sag AC, where it's sextiling his Sun, opposing his Moon. I very strongly see and feel his Libra Sun expressed by his ascendant and also his Moon (feelings), but specially his Sun. Have to look deeper into the chart and his videos first, that was my spontanous guess so far...
Interesting! He seems fiery to you on first impression? How come?
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GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 11:15 AM
I would say between 18 and 20 degrees Virgo with the very close Jupiter Pluto conjunction being his predominant attunement, and then his chart ruler in late Libra cusping Scorpio and widely conjunct the Libra Sun (Sun is not close enough to Mercury to indicate much of a physical alteration of the Virgo archetype, but he would have a general, fairly strong attunement to Solar energy). As to why, combination of his physical looks, personality, and overall attunement. He is moderately taller than average (Jupiter conjunct Asc), but contrary to popular belief, when not bulked up for that kind of role (like Wolverine), he is not a particularly muscled body type (that's the Virgo with chart ruler in Libra, while Jupiter does indicate an increase in height especially, and broadness/strength/vitality some). He is a spiritual seeker type, and while he has a calm, laid back, highly agreeable personality, he does seem to have an intense and deeper side. Combo of predominant Jupiter and Pluto, but with strong Libra and Virgo combo. Partnership also seems to be very important to him, and it seems like his wife and he may be twin souls from the way he has talked about her and their relationship. With his Scorpio Venus Neptune conjunction, and with Libra as his predominant Sign, that would not be too surprising that he would experience an intense twin soul connection. (He has conscious attunement to a lot of the Planets actually, as we can see with Uranus also being in the 1st, Mars being conjunct his Asc from the 12th, Neptune being conjunct the ruler of his Sun and likely ruler of his chart ruler sign placement. This along with a good balance between Yin and Yang, the very strong Jupiter, indicates most likely dealing with an older soul type). IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 11:52 AM
Awesome interpretations so far! What about an Aqua ASC. Seems likely?IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 12:48 PM
I was thinking about an Aqua AC before, and then around the degree that would trine both Sun and Moon, but he feels more fiery (both Sag and Sun energies actually) to me and less Aquarian in the sense of airy detachment to a degree, yet he has something unconventional and he would get along with most people with Aquarian energies I could imagine.Galactic knows much more about astrology than I do, so maybe he's right. I don't know Hugh at all, saw him the first time today (not living in the US, no tv-connection or social media on purpose...). My impression of him comes from feeling, intutition about his energy and looks. I didn't try to use clairvoyance though (not appropriate now and I didn't ask him), but it might automatically be slightly included in my intuition about him. Also I see a lot of fire in his behaviour/vibe in the videos and he has something that strongly resonates in me, feels like maybe we could be very connected and/or alike somehow, I can feel the energies I described in him directly like a very strong energy flow (more than just a flow even, it's like one) connected to my own, similar ones. Possibly my lack of knowledge about astrology causes me to guess his placements wrong, but I'm quite sure my feeling about this similar energy and it's 'flow'/connection is real. I'm still feeling his Sun (specially) and/or Moon in connection to/expressed by his AC with Sun and/or Sag energies, but maybe it's just what Galactic mentioned as Solar energies... and Jupiter at the AC...(?) Not enough experience...🤷 IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 12:58 PM
That makes sense! And hey, your intuition could be right on target! I just think I'm slighted to wanting him to be an Aqua ASC because that would mean my Taurus Sun/Venus/Mercury would make a stellium in his 5H and all three of those are squared by Uranus natally. Would be a dream! LolIP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 01:03 PM
Re: Aqua Asc. Not to me. My second runner up choice would be Libra with a wide conjunction of Libra Sun/Mercury conjunction to his Asc, and ruling Planet, Venus in Scorpio conjunct Scorpio Neptune. He doesn't look like an Aquarius Asc in an archetypal sense much at all. In people of primarily Caucasian ethnic background, archetypal Aquarius is best and most strongly correlated with a very "classic" or stereotypical Germanic type look. Some examples. Tend to be from average to moderately tall height, tend to have lighter complexion but can tan and bronze some--more than Celtic types and with much less freckles and the like. Eyes typically blue and sometimes strikingly so, varying from the light to deep blue to blue greens, but less gray blue or blue gray more common among Celtic types. Build tends to be medium, nice and somewhat athletic and strong but not overly so (in a natural, innate sense, obviously hard work or extreme laziness can counter balance that). Facial structure tends to be more square, especially at the jaw line (this is common for all Fixed Signs btw). Hair tends to be from blonde, sandy blonde to lighter browns. Often a somewhat androgynous look or at least style and/or way of presenting (especially so when the males have longer hair or the females have short hair). In an archetypal sense, Aquarius is one of the most universally attractive Signs due to their even/symmetrical and balanced features and proportions. 2nd only to Libra. I don't know what Rising his physical birth time gives (I don't always go by this anyways necessarily--long explanation/account), but to me, Brad Pitt looks fairly like an archetypal Aquarius Rising for a caucasian example (though that fairly full lower lip can definitely suggest either Leo Asc, or Leo and/or Solar indication shading in). I use the term "archetypal" a lot, because finding "pure" or even relatively pure Rising Signs is extremely rare. In most cases, there are strong alternations of the Rising Sign archetype via strong Planetary and/or Sign indications. Especially closer conjunctions and oppositions to the Asc, and to a slightly lesser extent close squares from other Angular areas, close cusping of the Asc to another Sign, and/or very close conjunctions and oppositions to the faster moving chart ruler all can greatly modify the basic archetype of the Rising Sign. Unfortunately, a lot of the astrology books that I have seen (especially all the older, "classics") have focused most on caucasian ethnicity, because of the strong Euro influence in astrology. I find it easier to gauge Rising signs among caucasians because of that, and perhaps because there seems to be the most variation in pigment types in that group. I mean compare a stereotypical Highland Scot (i.e. reddish hair, very light complexion with a lot of freckles) with a person from southern Middle East (can be rather dark, almost Sub Saharan black dark) and/or to a stereotypical Scandinavian type (i.e. dirty to light blonde, medium to lighter blue eyes, lighter skin but lacking the freckles of the Celtic and can tan/bronze some). I say stereotypical because of course there are many people in those areas and groups, and not just immigrants, that don't look that way or look a bit different. In general, I could care less about looks in people, except for how it relates to astrology and can help narrow down Rising Signs and charts. IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 01:13 PM
Hey you girl in the stars,he's MYYYYYYYYY twin soul ! 🏏🦁🛡️  IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 01:16 PM
Ah, so many choices! Libra, Virgo or a fiery ASC. @GalacticCoreExplosionV2 - What's your opinion on the fiery ASC possibility? Hard to figure out! I would post interviews, but MC would be getting in the way of that, I think, because all people put on a false front to a degree when they're in public view. But he seems very at ease and able to converse with ease with anyone. It's not obnoxious or fake either. Genuine energy. IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 01:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by HeavenlyLove: Hey you girl in the stars,he's MYYYYYYYYY twin soul ! 🏏🦁🛡️ 
Pull up the chart to prove it.  I think this synastry and composite is pretty hard to beat. *flips hair* Synastry: http://imgur.com/rq0MN65 Composite: http://imgur.com/Xqb8eh8 IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 01:31 PM
quote: *flips hair*
🤣 Must eat now... IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9003 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 01, 2022 01:41 PM
Aries rising. Thats what i get from my end (and very strongly). Probably at 9Deg.Something in the 9-10 degree cardinal mark though that events of his life happen.Parents divorced at age 8. Solar arc Ura arced to conjunct the proposed Dsc in Libra at 9 Deg at age 8. Around the same time, Pluto in Libra 11 Lib was squaring his Mc/Ic axis at 10 Deg Cap/Can respectively . Mom moved away with his sisters back to England and he stayed with his Dad & his brothers in Australia. In 1985 he got the lead character in a school play "My fair lady".Solar arc Plu/Jup/Moon in 10 Lib/10Lib/10 Can respectively. He married in 96, solar arc Mars arced to conjunct the Dsc(impulsive decision to marry) . Add to that, that was the year Jup was in 10 Cap conj his Mc/opp Ic. He had surgery on his nose when solar Neptune arced to conj the proposed Dsc at 9 Lib and square the Ic/Mc axis 10 during Nov '13 through to May '14. Add to that, trans Ura was 10 Ari and square Pluto 9 Cap that year conjunct his proposed Asc & conj his proposed Mc respectively 🙏🏿 I think Aries is Ascending. And he is the irritating "cheerleader" type of Ari with a "you can do it!" motivational attitude that I spoke of in another post🤣 IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by InTheStars: Ah, so many choices! Libra, Virgo or a fiery ASC. @GalacticCoreExplosionV2 - What's your opinion on the fiery ASC possibility?
Aries would be my 3rd choice after Virgo and Libra, only because he has a somewhat Arian type nose (somewhat large and somewhat flaring and aquiline in structure) and decent amount of vitality and athleticism (though he claims he is not particulary athletic). Otherwise, he doesn't look particularly Aries, at least not in any archetypal way to me. Those two Asc options I gave earlier both have strong Fire in connection to his Asc btw. You're making the common mistake of a lot of less studied astrologers tend to in overly focusing on the Signs. When you understand that Planetary energy is stronger and more concentrated than Sign energy, and can overwhelm Sign energy*, then realizing things like Jupiter or Sun conjunct Asc, adds quite a bit of Fire to the chart. Though with Jupiter, it is an odd blend of slight majority of Fire but with Water balancing some, just as Jupiter solely rules Sagittarius and co-rules Pisces. In fact, to better understand Jupiter's energy "as is", picture mixing about 55% to 60% or so Sagittarius to around 45% to 40% or so Pisces. Or in other words, Jupiter is a bit less red and fiery than Sagittarius, but moderately more red and fiery than Pisces--it's in between, a blend of both but a bit closer to Sagittarius all in all. *There are exceptions to the above principle, at least with the physical looks part of astrology. Neither Neptune nor Pluto, when strongly connected to the Asc, indicate a strong or even moderate altering of the Rising Sign archetype in the physical sense. These for whatever reason are far more subtle and far more vibe related. I.e. having Pluto closely conjunct the Asc doesn't indicate someone looking more Scorpio like, nor does Neptune conjunct the Asc indicate someone looking very Pisces Rising like. However, character wise, there are often a lot of similarities (though also some differences because these are not exactly the same energies). IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: Aries would be my 3rd choice after Virgo and Libra, only because he has a somewhat Arian type nose (somewhat large and somewhat flaring and aquiline in structure) and decent amount of vitality and athleticism (though he claims he is not particulary athletic).
However, in the chart I first mentioned, this can easily be correlated to Mars also conjuncting the Asc. In the 2nd, it can be somewhat (less so) correlated with the chart ruler being in Scorpio, which has some similarities to Aries in the nose sense. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15300 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 01, 2022 03:09 PM
Interesting how many girls like this guy, he does seem nice and down to earth, like he would be a good friend and partner but I am not sexually attracted to him. I get he has a nice a body and all but he doesn't make my heart pound. I feel he would be easy to talk to and you would feel relaxed around him.I am going to guess Aries rising or Leo rising. He does project fire, warmth, energy and friendliness. He would be someone I may start to like after getting to know him and hanging out a lot. IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Interesting how many girls like this guy, he does seem nice and down to earth, like he would be a good friend and partner but I am not sexually attracted to him. I get he has a nice a body and all but he doesn't make my heart pound. I feel he would be easy to talk to and you would feel relaxed around him.I am going to guess Aries rising or Leo rising. He does project fire, warmth, energy and friendliness. He would be someone I may start to like after getting to know him and hanging out a lot.
Same for me. I saw him for years and felt nothing. Not that he wasn't attractive, but it didn't click for me. I wonder what transit recently happened for me to suddenly pick up on some Scorpionic traits and depths I detect him, much to the pleasure to the Scorpio in me. Same with some Air/Fire energy which I'm also enjoying.
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 334 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 03:56 PM
I think he might be a Virgo Rising too but in the first decan with his Mars in H1 and his Moon conjunct his MC. Mars in H1 close to his ASC would fit his action hero appeal and his Moon conjunct MC would add to his likability. I think he’s one of those actors everyone seems to like. He also seems very grounded and stable to me. He does have his Mars, Jupiter and Pluto in Virgo, but it would go well with him if he had one of his big 3 in earth. His Sun in Libra and his Moon in Gemini, that is a lot of air. I don’t think he has an air ASC, that would be a very air dominant personality.Edit: Aries Rising with his chart ruler Mars in Virgo would be my second guess. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15300 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 01, 2022 04:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: I think he might be a Virgo Rising too but in the first decan with his Mars in H1 and his Moon conjunct his MC. Mars in H1 close to his ASC would fit his action hero appeal and his Moon conjunct MC would add to his likability. I think he’s one of those actors everyone seems to like. He also seems very grounded and stable to me. He does have his Mars, Jupiter and Pluto in Virgo, but it would go well with him if he had one of his big 3 in earth. His Sun in Libra and his Moon in Gemini, that is a lot of air. I don’t think he has an air ASC, that would be a very air dominant personality.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15300 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 01, 2022 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by InTheStars: Same for me. I saw him for years and felt nothing. Not that he wasn't attractive, but it didn't click for me. I wonder what transit recently happened for me to suddenly pick up on some Scorpionic traits and depths I detect him, much to the pleasure to the Scorpio in me. Same with some Air/Fire energy which I'm also enjoying.
 Well then do share the most recent movie you saw him on that woke this up for you! Must be a good movie or one of his best work. Is possible transit Uranus in Taurus although is still very wide may be bringing out more the venus in scorpio in him in recent movies. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15300 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 01, 2022 04:12 PM
I dont get aqua rising either, I think virgo rising or fiery ascendant too, I like Plutowashere theory as Mars would fall in the 1H and that would explain a lot.If he has VIRGO rising his chart ruler would be in Libra which I would buy totally. Is one of the reasons why I thought LEO riser would work for him, as it would explain that sun energy I feel coming out of him but he would also have SUN in libra ruling his chart which I feel would fit as well. In fact I notice the libra and virgo the most in him so virgo rising with mercury in libra would explain that or Leo rising with sun in libra and mars in virgo. With LEO Rising at late degrees near REGULUS, mars in virgo may still fall in his 1st house potentially since he has mars in virgo at 12 degrees. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15300 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 01, 2022 04:28 PM
My Proposal: He is 53 and his wife is 66 years old, in my proposal he has Saturn ruling his 5th house. IP: Logged |
InTheStars Knowflake Posts: 39 From: Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 04:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238:  Well then do share the most recent movie you saw him on that woke this up for you! Must be a good movie or one of his best work.Is possible transit Uranus in Taurus although is still very wide may be bringing out more the venus in scorpio in him in recent movies.
Haha, oddly enough, it's not a movie! I mean, I saw him Prisoners years ago - one of my favorite movies in the world and a very Plutonic movie overall, and I loved his performance of course but that was it...I loved the artistry of the movie. But, I've been into tarot lately and was doing a self-read for the qualities of my future spouse. One card - The Hanged Man - popped out and others cheekily said it could mean he's from Australia (he's upside down = Great Down Under). That reminded me of the actor Hugh Jackman, and I for the first time watched some interviews of him and became smitten. Lol, I should clarify, I do not think I'm going to marry Hugh Jackman LMAO, but even with other celeb crushes I've had that've come and gone, the energy with my pull to him feels different. Not obsession - like he's representing or embodying qualities I think my future spouse will be like and what I think I want from a future spouse. Interesting, huh? IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 08:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by InTheStars: Pull up the chart to prove it.  I think this synastry and composite is pretty hard to beat. *flips hair* Synastry: http://imgur.com/rq0MN65 Composite: http://imgur.com/Xqb8eh8
Depending on his AC I wouldn't be so sure babe *flashing the gold tooth* 
Still feeling this energy connection/one-ness strongly, very unusual.. I can't open your charts though, the links work, but the charts don't appear. And I'm still not sure about posting mine in the open... IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 01, 2022 08:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: I think he might be a Virgo Rising too but in the first decan with his Mars in H1 and his Moon conjunct his MC. Mars in H1 close to his ASC would fit his action hero appeal and his Moon conjunct MC would add to his likability. I think he’s one of those actors everyone seems to like. He also seems very grounded and stable to me. He does have his Mars, Jupiter and Pluto in Virgo, but it would go well with him if he had one of his big 3 in earth. His Sun in Libra and his Moon in Gemini, that is a lot of air. I don’t think he has an air ASC, that would be a very air dominant personality.Edit: Aries Rising with his chart ruler Mars in Virgo would be my second guess.
There are a couple logic issues with the above. Mars is not known to particularly indicate much alteration of height in relation to the Rising Sign. It may indicate a very slight increase in height when involved with Yin/feminine Rising Signs, but not much. Problem is, Virgo, while probably the tallest of the Yin/Feminine Signs in the archetypal sense, it's still not a "tall" indication by any means. Virgo in an archetypal sense ranges from slightly below average to slightly above. So say in an American male, from like around 5' 6 to 5'10 or so. My full brother happens to have early Virgo Rising cusping Leo with early Virgo Venus Mars conjunction closely conjuncting his Asc with Venus slightly closer, and his Mercury (chart ruler) is like 0* Libra. Facially he is definitely above average looking and above average charming/attractive personality. Growing up, he was always very slim/skinny and somewhat slight--high metabolism, but he had a wiry-muscular strength. He has a medium-light skin tone--can tan fairly well and has a slight reddish undertone to his skin--almost like some eastern Native American tribes, has medium brown hair, and green eyes (medium darkness). In his late teens, he started working out and started to bulk up more, and started to more match my more natural Leonine physique (I've always just had developed muscles in my arms, and built muscle easily though I never seriously worked at it). He's like 5' 7" to 5' 7.5". Again, Mars is closely conjunct his Asc. Hugh Jackman on the other hand in his youth seems to have been somewhere between 6' 2" and 6' 3" (and it's safe to assume that since he is now in his 50's, he probably has started to lose a bit of that height). The average height for Aussie males is 5' 10", hence is fairly above average height. That's a Jupiter symbolism/indication, not a Mars thing, especially not to that degree. Also, his energy does not strike me as a predominant Martian. People who are predomiant Martians tend to have a lot of red energy in their aura, and tend to be rather self centered/self serving and it's not uncommon for them to be downright clinically/pathologically narcissistic, tend to have a definite temper, tend to be very focused on the material, tend to have very high sex drive, tend to be above average muscular and/or athletic (especially the males). With him, I get more of a calm, older Soul, spiritual seeker vibe that is much better aligned to that close Jupiter Pluto conjunction conjunct his Asc, but Pluto would indicate some definite intensity. And both Jupiter and Pluto are far deeper than Mars, which is far more 2 dimensional. With all that said, I do think it's likely that Mars is moderately to widely conjunct his Asc still, but not predominant, like that Jupiter-Pluto combo. He really does have a very deep, sensitive, and spiritual side to him and that is just not Mars AT ALL in the slightest. Male Martians tend to be most interested in screwing, eating, making money, and "winning" over others--they are often highly competitive and ego driven. Jackman is far to agreeable, calm, cooperative, humble, etc to be a predominant Martian. Aries is a bit better in these regards, and more intellectual focused than predominant Planetary Mars, but still has some of the above traits and tendencies of Mars, unless cusping Pisces or Taurus strongly, or strongly counter balanced by strong, more Yin symbols. Hence, Aries doesn't particular fit all that well either holistically. Also Aries in caucasians tends much more to the Celtic to Slavic type look (in the archetypal sense). Reddish tinted hair and freckles is not uncommon, curly hair is not uncommon, more gray to hazel eyes is not uncommon, and a pronounced more V shaped face is not uncommon. If he had Aries Rising, there wouldn't be anything to to indicate a strong altering of that towards how he does actually look, and if the Sun was opposed his Asc, if anything, that would indicate an even more Celtic type look, towards the Leonine like, which he doesn't look Leo much except for his long back and wide shoulders. In the face, he doesn't look Leo AT all. And Saturn, while it would indicate more melanation/pigment, it would also indicate a shortening of height and more slight/slender build, with a weaker vitality and constitution than Aries normally has. Contrary to popular perception, he is not heavily muscled naturally. What we see in pics like In the Stars has shared, is A LOT of working out with various kinds of common Hollywood juicing (a cocktail of both androgen type hormone analogues as well as HGH type stuff). Most popular male hollywood actors use illegal to barely legal enhancing substances to bulk up--extremely common. After all, there is like a handful of trainers that consistently work with most of these guys, that are more so hired and paid by the studios and corporate folks, rather than by the actors themselves. Usually it goes something like this, "this will be your trainer, do everything he/she tells you to do." And again, from everything I've read, very few of these guys are completely natural all the time. Unless you are a genetic freak, you just cannot bulk up that much in the short to shortish times required for these actors to do so, no matter how much you lift/work out (in fact, too much working out can reduce overall gains if there is not outside hormonal help). IP: Logged | |