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Topic: Resolving t-squares
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aquaguy91
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posted March 28, 2022 07:46 PM
  
I have a t-square involving Pluto in Scorpio in the 9th house, Moon in Taurus in the 3rd house, and Venus in Aquarius conjunct my ascendant. Venus is of course the apex of this t-square. I have read that the key to resolving t-squares is to tap into the house and sign opposite the apex. In this case, the opposite would be my Leo 7th house. What do you make of that? To me, it seems like the way out of the tension would be relationships somehow, but relationships are my biggest challenge (as you can probably tell by the planets and signs involved). So what do you think? This t-square really kicks my a$$.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted March 29, 2022 01:41 AM
Hi aquaguy91, a fixed t-square is very challenging because of the nature of fixed signs. They like to dig their heels in and do not want to compromise. But that is exactly what you need to do. You need to look at “the other” without projecting your own fears and emotions on them. Self knowledge is always a good thing. Try to be aware of what is happening when you are interacting with other people, without judging.And maybe you could check out your synastry with your mother and examine that more closely. It could help to understand your own emotional nature a bit better. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2022 10:07 AM
Plutowashere,
This is incredibly difficult energy to deal with. I notice that women are especially intimidated by and frightened of me for even existing. Like if I make eye contact they never smile and look away or look down. Sometimes I have women even act frightened when I step on elevators. Now that really hurts. It's interesting how people tell me that I'm immature or selfish for being offended by that because women have real reasons to be afraid, but somehow it's different if a man of another race steps on an elevator and women act afraid and clutch their purses. Suddenly, that man is deserving of empathy and the woman is racist  . All jokes side, it really does hurt when stuff like that happens and it is hard not to jump into my self hating inner dialogues. I feel like the beast from Beauty and the Beast.IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted March 29, 2022 12:15 PM
Aquaguy91, I have question for you. Do you like yourself? I mean, ALL of you. Your looks. Your thoughts. Your feelings.
Because if you do, why does it matter how others behave around you? And how do you know they look at you while thinking “******* , that’s one scary/awful looking dude!”?
Perhaps they are intimated by you and it might not be about your looks. It might be because of your aura. Maybe they actually like you and behave awkwardly because of that.
Reason for asking is because yes, t-squares are not always fun, but like ALL squares, there’s learning involved. Yes? I also have t squares. Sun/Moon/Pluto and Mercury/Moon/Pluto. Pluto is the Apex planet. What people notice about me is PLUTO and they either want to kill me or fcuk me. Now, I also have Mars 1H conjunct Asc (parallel Pluto and sextile Uranus) and I don’t tolerate that BS but it also makes others want to mess with me even more. Their loss.. I’ve been reading most of your posts on Lindaland and you’re so down on yourself. Why? Because of women??
My advice to you is to find your “warrior” (like that Mars is mine) Make what YOU see as negative into something positive. I have a feeling you will retort with “but I have a difficult chart” now and I, or someone else, will respond with “so what!?”. No chart in the universe of charts is ALL bad or or ALL good. We are all mixed. Sure, I’d be lying if I pretended to always be strong and jolly , I’m not, and on those days when I’m not, I look to other charts for a pick -me-up. Draconic. Sidereal. I look to Numerology. And I ONLY read the positive things that I want to take to heart and I become that! I become my Life Path 5. I become my Chinese Fire Dragon. And I become my Draconic Sagittarius stellium of being a bloody know it all and then I walk out into the world and give everybody the middle finger! Being stuck on certain aspects and thinking that's you, is like thinking that your parents will have power over you until the day you die. Eff that ****!! Oh no, you become a rebel and morph into something they are not able to control.
Don't let your mind, or bad aspects, control you. YOU have the control; over your mind and what you let inside of it. And finally, and this might be THE most important advice I will give you! Instead of thinking "it's me", you can try and think "it's them". The world is full with insecure people that carry huge amounts of personal baggage so why can't it be them? Is it really so farfetched thinking people cannot be intimidated by you? Insecurities will bring forth very ugly sides in humans and they will project these sides onto whatever is infront of them, only to escape their demons.
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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2022 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
Aquaguy91, I have question for you. Do you like yourself? I mean, ALL of you. Your looks. Your thoughts. Your feelings.
Because if you do, why does it matter how others behave around you? And how do you know they look at you while thinking “******* , that’s one scary/awful looking dude!”?
Perhaps they are intimated by you and it might not be about your looks. It might be because of your aura. Maybe they actually like you and behave awkwardly because of that.
Reason for asking is because yes, t-squares are not always fun, but like ALL squares, there’s learning involved. Yes? I also have t squares. Sun/Moon/Pluto and Mercury/Moon/Pluto. Pluto is the Apex planet. What people notice about me is PLUTO and they either want to kill me or fcuk me. Now, I also have Mars 1H conjunct Asc (parallel Pluto and sextile Uranus) and I don’t tolerate that BS but it also makes others want to mess with me even more. Their loss.. I’ve been reading most of your posts on Lindaland and you’re so down on yourself. Why? Because of women??
My advice to you is to find your “warrior” (like that Mars is mine) Make what YOU see as negative into something positive. I have a feeling you will retort with “but I have a difficult chart” now and I, or someone else, will respond with “so what!?”. No chart in the universe of charts is ALL bad or or ALL good. We are all mixed. Sure, I’d be lying if I pretended to always be strong and jolly , I’m not, and on those days when I’m not, I look to other charts for a pick -me-up. Draconic. Sidereal. I look to Numerology. And I ONLY read the positive things that I want to take to heart and I become that! I become my Life Path 5. I become my Chinese Fire Dragon. And I become my Draconic Sagittarius stellium of being a bloody know it all and then I walk out into the world and give everybody the middle finger! Being stuck on certain aspects and thinking that's you, is like thinking that your parents will have power over you until the day you die. Eff that ****!! Oh no, you become a rebel and morph into something they are not able to control.
Don't let your mind, or bad aspects, control you. YOU have the control; over your mind and what you let inside of it. And finally, and this might be THE most important advice I will give you! Instead of thinking "it's me", you can try and think "it's them". The world is full with insecure people that carry huge amounts of personal baggage so why can't it be them? Is it really so farfetched thinking people cannot be intimidated by you? Insecurities will bring forth very ugly sides in humans and they will project these sides onto whatever is infront of them, only to escape their demons.
Charlie,
Oh I do find the positives. For one, I like that I intimidate other men. That keeps them from crossing me most of the time. My now ex roommate was in the marine corps and after we got into a verbal altercation he was too scared to come back and get his stuff. He told me to quit crying and get over it on the one year anniversary of my mom's death and I breathed fire on him with my 0 degrees 3rd house Gemini Mars.I'm also finally owning my very intense presence with women. For better or worse, women almost always "feel" me when I enter the room. I can see it and feel it plain as day. It kind of sucks though because it means I can't check out women without them instantly knowing and looking up. I'm learning to live with this and more and more I keep my gaze steady instead of looking away. The results of this are sometimes interesting. I notice that a lot of women reward me with little goodies like adjusting their jackets in such a way that just happens to make their cleavage more visible to me or they turn their bodies more towards me. They also find reasons to bend over in front of me so I can see their luscious a$$es . I know these are just games that women like to play for attention, but they are still fun.
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sashavittoria
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posted March 30, 2022 12:49 PM
aquaguy, I've read something different - that the way to resolve T-squares is to tap into the apex in order to resolve the opposition. The energy in the opposition gets "charged up" and needs a release valve, provided by the apex planet. So I would think the solution is rather to lean into that Venus/ascendant in Aqua, which I imagine endows you with a lovely ability to charm and extend a detached, dispassionate, humanitarian view of equality upon others. Sharing this with them would ease any tension created by the communication difficulties posed by the 3/9 opposition, which I imagine relates to a stolid stubbornness around holding to one's own ideas and position. When you find yourself holding stubbornly to your own ideas, remember to extend love to all beings equally and see all points of view as valid.IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut
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posted March 30, 2022 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
aquaguy, I've read something different - that the way to resolve T-squares is to tap into the apex in order to resolve the opposition. The energy in the opposition gets "charged up" and needs a release valve, provided by the apex planet.
this is my understanding too. to extend on the insightful thoughts already expressed in this thread, i think maybe the stubborn intensity of emotions from the fixed moon/pluto opposition gets charged up by love expressions (or lack of love) from others (7th leo). the release would be by owning your unique beauty (aqua venus asc), where the intensity becomes an asset instead of an issue. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted March 30, 2022 04:41 PM
I think my biggest problem is my inability to live out my sexual nature. That is where most of my angst comes from honestly. For 99.9% of my adult life I have gone without sex and intimate relationships with women. For whatever reason, women are never interested in me. I have a backlog of unmet human needs and those unmet needs come with a lot of suffering. Sexual frustration is hell.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 07, 2022 03:59 PM
I feel this t-square intensly on a daily basis. These days it's driving me to drink alcohol and smoke cannabis to alleviate the constant tension and turmoil I feel inside. I have tried counseling and it didn't help.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2022 04:27 PM
I know many people disagree but I don't think you can resolve everything in a chart. For example, a Mars in Cancer tends to stuff anger in the stomach and have stomach issues. A Chiron conj Venus will have pain with love. A Sun conjunct Pluto will be a very strong person ------------------
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aquaguy91
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posted April 07, 2022 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I know many people disagree but I don't think you can resolve everything in a chart. For example, a Mars in Cancer tends to stuff anger in the stomach and have stomach issues. A Chiron conj Venus will have pain with love. A Sun conjunct Pluto will be a very strong person
I tend to agree with that. Ami, I have such a bad experience with women. I honestly don't understand it. I get treated so badly or completely ignored. There's no in between. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 07, 2022 05:24 PM
I am glad you are not angry with my response, AG. I am not bragging but I think I have done thousands of charts in ten years and people have things that just hurt and are just hard and cannot be resolved. I wonder why charts are so hard and everyone seems to have a hard chart, although some are much harder than others. I think it is because we are supposed to find God and pain makes us seek Him.------------------
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aquaguy91
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posted April 07, 2022 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am glad you are not angry with my response, AG. I am not bragging but I think I have done thousands of charts in ten years and people have things that just hurt and are just hard and cannot be resolved. I wonder why charts are so hard and everyone seems to have a hard chart, although some are much harder than others. I think it is because we are supposed to find God and pain makes us seek Him.
Totally. I experience this energy as something that I can't control. Most people always talks about free will, but it doesn't seem to be that much of a thing. The energy between me and women is just bad. They respond negatively to me, which only increases all my angst and low self esteem issues. It's like a chicken or the egg thing. It's hard to figure out exactly where the problem starts because you could make a good argument for both sides. You could say that my personality just sucks and I'm off putting to women. Or you could say that for whatever reason my personality and looks just don't resonate with women so they sort of hold me at arm's length. That's honestly how I experience it. My interactions with women always bring me pain. Women don't make me feel good. They confuse me. They seem shady and untrustworthy. Their smiles are usually fake. I feel uneasy around women because I never know what they are thinking or feeling. They're so one sided in the sense that they want you to show all your cards without showing any of theirs.
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Aries23Degrees
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posted April 08, 2022 05:23 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted April 08, 2022 08:10 AM
When you talk about women, I think your nemesis must aspect your moon. I will be totally honest. If I had to marry a woman, I never could. I do not trust women. I think that how my mother was made this the case. She really was my nemsis and so I feel women will hurt me and I feel they are fake, as you do. So, I don't think this can change. Maybe, it can. When I was younger and had more confidence, I did not feel this way. I don't really know. Jesus is my savior and I am happy and that is it for me!------------------
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posted April 08, 2022 11:20 AM
I might have to check to see where Nemesis is in my chart. I think Pluto does enough damage though. The thing I notice is how much power women have over men, which is odd because society usually focuses on the powers that mwb allegedly have over women. The thing is I love women. I really do. I see them and think good thoughts and get the butterfly feelings. I perceive that women generally dislike men and think we are animals basically.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 08, 2022 02:03 PM
It is all chart. I trust men basically. I like to be around them. I think women tend to have ulterior motives more. It really is all about the charts like everything is. ------------------
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posted April 08, 2022 05:25 PM
Aquaguy91, Women are different. Maybe, you concentrate too much on ones who are unavailable or don’t accept you.
You’re Aqua. Aquarius is related to technology, unconventional relationships. It’s age of online dating. Though, your Pluto with Taurus moon probably prefer more traditional. With many dating apps, you should be able to find somebody more agreeable, especially, if you are talking about physical needs, not sole mate. It doesn’t mean you couldn’t be dating if you cannot resolve your issues. There’re many weird people with unresolved issues who still manage to get relationships and everything else. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 08, 2022 05:43 PM
Online dating is the problem. I used to get quality female attention before everything went online. I was in high school until 2009 and things were relatively good before then. That was right about the time things went bad. It was right around 2009 or 2010 when smartphones started becoming ubiquitous. That was right about the time I became invisible to women. Before then, I had mutual interest with girls. I honestly felt like girls were just as interested and attracted to me as I was to them. Post 2010 I became garbage because young women started discovering that online dating allowed them to have the best looking men and ignore the rest of us.IP: Logged |
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posted April 08, 2022 07:24 PM
Maybe, that’s how it is now. I’ve not heard people making new acquaintances offline long time, except through work. It’s not like there’re better people online. Many became ADD with their phones and forgot how to do it in real life. It’s also not easy for women. I know women who look like they should get men attention, but they don’t. You would be surprised. Also, look at Aqua Venus and AC qualities. It might be a solution for your square over there. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted April 13, 2022 06:31 PM
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aquaguy91
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posted April 18, 2022 08:33 PM
I was just thinking about how I'm really starting to come into my Aquarian/Uranian energy and express it in my style. I have always been eccentric, but I have mostly kept it under wraps until fairly recently. That harsh conjunction between my Aquarius sun and Capricorn Saturn in the 12th house has always kept me from letting my freak flag fly. It took a Saturn return and my mom's death to give me the courage to start being myself. I wear gemstone necklaces, I have a somewhat long beard, and I wear patchouli oil. I also just got an authentic Russian ushanka fur hat. I wore it today in the grocery store and my Aquarian heart relished in all the weird looks I got. It feels so liberating to be my weird self and laugh at people who think I'm weird or get visibly put off by my expression of individuality. I also got a leopard print type shirt and it looks good with my hat. I'm going to wear it tomorrow on campus. Tying all this back to my t square, the moon is a part of that. It opposes my Pluto and squares my Venus on the ascendant. My mom used to always criticize my style preferences. She insisted girls don't like guys who wear necklaces and she also told me girls don't like guys who wear strong colognes. My dad wore necklaces and strong colognes and apparently my mom liked him enough to marry him and have two children with him. Lol! Any way, my mom was always critical of me in weird ways like that and it made me insecure about myself. I think my new style experiments are my way of paying more attention my Aqua Venus on the ascendant.
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aquaguy91
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posted April 18, 2022 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Hi aquaguy91, a fixed t-square is very challenging because of the nature of fixed signs. They like to dig their heels in and do not want to compromise. But that is exactly what you need to do. You need to look at “the other” without projecting your own fears and emotions on them. Self knowledge is always a good thing. Try to be aware of what is happening when you are interacting with other people, without judging.And maybe you could check out your synastry with your mother and examine that more closely. It could help to understand your own emotional nature a bit better.
Here's my synastry with my mom. I got her time off her birth certificate.
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aquaguy91
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posted April 24, 2022 02:39 PM
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PlutoWasHere
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posted April 24, 2022 04:09 PM
Hi aquaguy, I can’t see the chart maybe you can upload it in another way? IP: Logged |
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