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Topic: aries23degree, question, death in a chart?
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 03:48 AM
Hi, aries23degree, I need your help on this since you seem to know so much.I want to know what in a birth chart can it give hints about violent death? Can you give examples of some chart you know? I was reading this: https://askastrologer.com/articles/Hyleg-death-prediction.html Can you see or predict a violent death from a birth chart? Can you give me some example of some charts you know what died of violent death? so I can see the pattern/aspects. Thanks in advance aries23degree, or anyone can chime in to help. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9366 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 15, 2022 05:56 AM
I would strongly suggest caution in reading online predictions and getting oneself worked up over them. They are very generic at best.I don't have the skills to predict death or differentiate a birth chart from a death chart. Because as much as Plu can indicate endings. It's also about beginnings. Jupiter transits can also be about "the next chapter" as much as they indicate an addition to the family etc.
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 10:31 AM
Hi Aries23degree, I just have to write this out, it strange but it scary how accurate it is.My husband father died (deceased years ago), HUGE blow to my husband, like HUGE, his dad died years ago and he still grief till today. I plug in the natal transit that day of his dad died to his dad birthday. And I found this: His dad natal birth chart has Mars Opposition Uranus.! And the day his dad died Mars Opposition Uranus was at exactly 0 zero. It said this: Uranus Opposition Mars at EXACTLY 0°00’ And I read this: https://astrotrends.net/newsletters/negative/freak-accidents-to-head-and-spine That link it said: If you are born with it, then the danger is obviously much more because any planet can touch it off. My husband dad born with it, and the day he died Uranus Opposition Mars at EXACTLY 0°00’ And that month and year, "Mars in Scorpio aligns directly opposite Uranus in Taurus" when his dad died. His dad natal chart he born with Scorpio Mars and Taurus Uranus.! and it hit right at 0 too. I know if I told him this about astrology and remind him of his dad death, he will cry again. My husband still grief his father death alot, to him it like endless grief. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 15, 2022 10:53 AM
married11years, did his dad die from natural causes or accident? Was transit Uranus opposite his Mars or transit Mars touched his Uranus? What Mars sign? Uranus means unusually circumstances.That article also says “Not everyone with a Mars-Uranus aspect will be a victim of a stray bullet, but they are definitely more susceptible to freak accidents, a stroke, sudden bouts of temper (which may be related to the spine), inventive ideas (mainly because their actions are erratic and unconventional) and erratic behavior from time to time.” I have Mars Uranus natally. I survived through Uranus opp. my Mars, but didn’t have square yet. Aspects are often don’t manifest the same way for everybody. Tom Cruze has Mars sq, Uranus. He likes dangerous sport. He was injured, but nothing what affected him for long.
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 11:06 AM
ok, let my Gemini Sun calm down because I have anxiety. It so accurate for his dad.His dad natal chart have Uranus Opposition Mars. His dad natal chart Mars in Scorpio, Uranus in Taurus. And that month day and year, astrology site said "Mars in Scorpio aligns directly opposite Uranus in Taurus" and that was the day his dad life was taken away. And you see the sign? It the same sign of his dad natal Mars and Uranus! What scary is that the day his dad died that day the transit was Uranus Opposition Mars at EXACTLY 0°00’ Yes, EXACTLY at zero degree, exact Mars (Scorpio) and Uranus (Taurus) opposition that day, and his dad natal Mars Scorpio and Uranus Taurus. okay, but we talking about his dad case have Uranus OPPOSITION Mars here, NOT squared like those actors, and I'm sure those actors Mars and Uranus sign don't fall into the SAME Mars Uranus sign of that transit.
My husband dad had, it the EXACT Mars and Uranus sign of his natal aligns with the transit. His dad have Mars Scorpio opposition Uranus Taurus (in his natal). That day the transit: Mars Scorpio opposition exactly in the sky with Uranus Taurus!! And at 0 exactly too! and he died that day. At 0 degree pure, that means the transit just began to enter that day. Is your opposition like my husband dad? oh man, and I just realize my husband also have Scorpio Mars, lol. like father like son. Thanks goodness my husband doesn't have the natal Mars opposition Uranus like his father. His mom still alive though, and thank that she also not have that aspect. He bought 2 houses, 1 was for me and him, and 1 was for his parents to live. Well, at least he fulfill his duty as a son before his dad died suddenly. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 15, 2022 12:41 PM
That’s crazy and scary, indeed! I don’t have these placements. I think Madonna or Tom Cruise will have their Mars Uranus aligned with transits soon. We’ll see. I noticed Scorpio placements run in family. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 12:44 PM
But those actors they have squared, NOT opposition. My husband dad have Opposition, Mars Opposition Uranus, because both those planets in a same house. And make sure their transit has to be in the same signs too.When aligned exact to me is you need to have the same aligne and SAME sign (both in transit day and natal) too, and at 0 degree. Example like my husband dad, Uranus Taurus, Scorpio Mars. Opposition each others. Natal. Transit day he died: Uranus (taurus) Opposition Mars (scorpio), SAME sign as his Natal sign. Can you tell me Madonna and Tom Cruise aspect and sign? Transit has to aligne the aspect as well as the sign! Check yours opposition, I'm sure the last time it was opposition, but NOT in the same sign as our natal. What scary about his dad was the transit, it went back to where EXACTLY when he was born. Lay on it in bold red line across his chart exactly right over. Like exactly 0°00’ degree. Same signs in both, same exact degree. I'm sure Tom Cruise won't have that, you check. I think you have to live certain age for it to align back like that, my husband dad was old, older then Tom Cruise for sure lol (my husband the youngest child in the family). And Uranus in Taurus it said Uranus in Taurus activates your purpose and physical incarnation. Maybe it was time up for his dad.
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 8142 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 15, 2022 12:59 PM
^ What was the cause of his death? ( Only if u don't mind sharing.)IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 15, 2022 01:07 PM
Actor Jon Voight and designer Carolina Herrera have Scorpio Mars opp. Uranus. And currently under this transit. It seems like they’re alive. Oh, doctor Fauci has it. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:07 PM
eta: delete the part about his dad death, it a bit personal.
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Actor Jon Voight and designer Carolina Herrera have Scorpio Mars opp. Uranus. And currently under this transit. It seems like they’re alive. Oh, doctor Fauci has it.
ok sis, you have to tell me the sign in both their Mars and Uranus too. It not just the opposition, the sign have to align too. Yeah no sis, I'm sorry but today Mars is in Pisces. Sorry, today Mars is in Pisces, NOT Scorpio! So Voith and Carolina not count. It NOT the same as my husband dad case. ok, I know I write alot so it hard to read it all. But my husband dad have Uranus Opposition Mars in the SAME exact signs and the opposition on the day of his death. His transit that day was EXACT, same signs in BOTH Uranus and Mars. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Actor Jon Voight and designer Carolina Herrera have Scorpio Mars opp. Uranus. Oh, doctor Fauci has it.
I just check, today Mars in Pisces, Uranus in Taurus. Unless that 2 people you mentioned above have their Mars and Uranus in the same sign, then it not same as my husband dad case. April 15. 2022 Mars in Pisces sis, not scorpio. My husband dad case it was the same, same Mars sign, same Uranus sign, same opposition, right at 0 degree, exactly went back to where his birth time he born. No, not saying everyone gonna die like my husband dad, it just it scary how coicident it is. Same signs in BOTH, same opposition, right back exactly at 0 just like when he was born. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 15, 2022 01:18 PM
I didn’t check transit Mars, but Mars is more fast moving planet. I think it should visit Scorpio this year. Taurus is always and only opposition to Scorpio. Need to see if somebody will have direct alignment. I guess we need to remember to check on it. Thank you for sharing this. However, I don’t want to try to predict death. I think some things better not to knowIP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:23 PM
Yeah but by this year I don't think it be an opposition anymore does it? How long do opposition stay? Are you telling me that every few years we went back to Mars Opposition Uranus? You can go back to Uranus, but it WILL rotate the signs.IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:27 PM
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:41 PM
I just check again. A week before my husband dad death (Uranus already in Taurus), Mars was in Virgo the move to Libra. And when Uranus move to the sign Scorpio!, hit his Uranus, my husband dad died that day. So weird.And sis, Uranus spend 7 years in a sign I think. So I'm sure those actors of yours won't have the SAME Uranus in their return unless Uranus done spend 7 years in each sign then go back to their birth sign. Took OVER 80 years for Uranus to come back to the same zodiac you born. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 01:51 PM
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 15, 2022 02:13 PM
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 15, 2022 09:41 PM
ok, sis librapurr, I'm sorry I read the symbols wrong. My husband is Saturn Scorpio CONJUNCT his Scorpio Mars. NOT opposition. I keep get mixed up with the opposition symbol and conjunct symbol. Ha! my scatter Gemini brain jump all over the place with like 1 thousand thoughts going on. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 16, 2022 02:20 PM
I see Mars was opposite Uranus 2021, Nov 17 and the next time 2023, Nov 11. This year we had Mars square Uranus , Mar 22. It looks like much work to see who from celebrities got affected by it. Maybe, there’s somebody who wants to dig in it on this forum. I’d be interesting.It’s kinda mind-blowing how accurate astrology worked in your case. Also, threatening. However, your husband Mars is different as affected by Saturn. I think Saturn might be a safer bet (depending on a chart) because Uranus has opposite to Saturn qualities as uncontrollable energy. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 16, 2022 06:00 PM
Thank you for explain it to me, sorry I'm new to astrology so I have alot to learn.IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted April 17, 2022 04:28 PM
No problem. We all here to learn. I’m also updating my information with your posts. Sometimes site could make a mistake and miss an aspect, but it’s rare. Usually it means no aspect It depends how you see astrology. I think Saturn and Mars work together. I’ve not heard before about mars being malefic for daytime born. Are Moon and Venus also ? I’m in Placidus. Keep in mind, houses are very depending on time of birth. Sometimes 30 minutes could change it. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 17, 2022 05:43 PM
Sis LibrapurrYou can use this and try it with your birthday and you will see diffferent Houses system. Placidus and Whole house sign does shift your houses. I don't know how to explain it, but you put your birthday in link link and you see. https://cafeastrology.com/compare-house-systems-report.html When my husband left home out on his own, his mom gave him his birth certificate to him as well as a copy of her and his dad birth certificate. So I'm sure his birth time is right. I'm his wife I hold on to all his paper stuff, and I dig through it and plug in his dad birth time to check about his dad death transit that day, it correct birth time. You try that link above and you see different house system does shift your planets. I find Placidus make more sense. Example Whole house sign put my husband Jupiter in 7th (I mean come on, how can a man with lucky Jupiter in his marriage house but then a slavbe to his wife and kid like this), so whole sign (tradition) not make sense to me, I stick with Placidus (the modern astrology). IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 17, 2022 09:33 PM
https://studentofastrology.com/resources/traditional/sect/ https://www.twowander.com/blog/day-night-sect-natal-chart You can learn more about day chart and night chart. It said it in there. I learn so much about astrology, it like endless learning. Just want to share some info I find about why Mars is malefic in daytime chart (as in my husband case). [ Were you born during the day? Check out Jupiter (benefic), he’s your dude. Were you born at night? Check out Venus (benefic), she’s your lady.] I use my husband chart as an example, he is day chart, Jupiter is his benefic. Mars is his malefic in my husband case, Mars (night planet) is the out of sect malefic. The reason why Venus and Moon (at night is not malefic) because they were NEVER know to be malefic to begin with. It the Mars is the malefic with day chart people. Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn, are associated with the daytime. Moon, Venus, and Mars, are associated with the nighttime. Saturn is actually helping my husband here. The Sun shine over him, Saturn and Jupiter both are helping him as he day chart. [If you were born during the day, Saturn’s not too bad. He’s screwing you over with a purpose and you’ll come out stronger and more disciplined.] And his chart is run by the MALEFIC Mars. Here why: https://johnsandbach.net/51-sole-dispositor/ Mars is his SOLE dispositor. Because he has Scorpio Mars, Scorpio Saturn, Scorpio Pluto. Mars and Pluto is at home. But I was told that Pluto is a slow moving planet, I have to go with Mars which is his inner planet. His Scorpio Mars is the ONLY planet that in it sign (not count Pluto since it outer planet), so all other planet are looking up to his aggressive Mars for guidance (yeah, it pretty bad). [ The sole dispositor of a chart represents a planet whose energy affects all others, and so an energy that, rather then tending to manifest in certain situations, tends to color through its energy all situations, endeavors and impulses of the person. The sole dispositor is an important consideration, and should always be taken into account when interpreting ALL OTHER AREAS OF THE CHART, for like a drop of colored ink placed in water, it colors everything. Mars as sole dispositor (it will always be in Aries or Scorpio) signifies a person who is aggressive in everything they do. They approach life with a lot of energy and autonomy, and have a great urge to both create and destroy – for instance they might enjoy clearing a field, or tearing down a house that is no longer needed. There is an edge of aggressiveness about everything they do. ] My husband case is not Aries, he has a Stellium in Scorpio. So it his Scorpio Mars run the show in his chart. I was told since Mars rule his chart, any other planet has Scorpio in it will have Mars trait (since they look up to his chart Sole ruler). So his Saturn is aggressive since it in Scorpio (same sign as his Mars). But I find that to be lucky, because Saturn same sign with his Mars sign, they both fight with the same intense energy. I just hope Saturn can tame his impulse, lol. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 544 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 17, 2022 10:11 PM
https://ambientastrology.com/articles/tag/final+dispositor+mars This is kindda scary for my husband case, when Mars is the sole dispositor in his case. [ Mars is in fact the final or 'sole dispositor' of the chart. I find when a malefic is the sole dispositor [especially if it is the malefic of the sect not in favor = Mars, when the native is born during the day, and Saturn, if the person is born at night] that it can be quite problematic for a person, and extra care and conscientiousness must be worked on. ] My husband born in the day right when the Sun highest in the sky. Mars is his malefic 100%. And Mars run his chart, great. Saturn conjuct Mars, it bad for people with day chart,lol https://www.astrosaxena.com/masaconj Can I just please trade my husband whole birth chart? lol IP: Logged | |