posted May 04, 2022 01:16 AM            

If I for instance ask "will I meet my partner this month?" , cast a chart for this moment and the chart has Aqua Asc, then I would look at the 7th house Leo (Ruled by Sun).

So since the Sun right on the day when i am asking the question is in Tau,then the answer is likely not going to be "Yes" because Sun isn't in its place of domicile when in Tau.

Add to that, the Sun would likely be in house 4. So my mate will be hidden from view(probably at home and not into socializing at this point).

Ven- ruler of the Sun in Tau(also general significator of attractions)is in Aries(place of debilitation), the answer is still "no". My partner ain't feeling open to love . They are likely opting for independence or a "hit it and run" approach.

Even if we go further and look at ruler of Ven in Ari(Mars) in Pis. Still another terrible position because Mars ain't strong in Pis. So it's 3 "Nos"🙆🏿‍♂️

But say the question was asked when Vir was Asc.The Desc ruler of Pis (partner) is Jup.Jup in Pis conj Nep.Very potent.

So the answer is "Yes". But there is more. The lover is likely to feel "too good to be true" (Nep/Jup conj is idealism), maybe a foreigner? Or its likely to be a coupling where both of us willingly let our guard down and go further with each other than we would normally do in everyday life circumstances?

posted May 04, 2022 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Nope, we understood your point. Nobody is contesting that based on dignities Leo Sun is a very good placement. Because it is and it definitely has strong benefits including potentially good placements of Mercury and Venus. But the point we’re trying to make is that planetary placements in the signs are not a birth chart. House placements and aspects are much more important. And that there is no such thing as an ”ideal” chart. Not because we’re trying to be politically correct but that’s just the way astrology works.

I’ve been looking into Vedic Astrology a bit more to get a better understanding of my placements and how it impacts me. The 8th house, together with the 12th house and the 6th house, are known as Dusthana houses or houses of “hardship”. It’s not a happy placement but one author mentioned that it’s an indication of suffering but also helps us in spiritual development. “What is bad for life on Earth is good for the return to Heaven.” There is no growth without pain, so an easy chart without any challenges would not provide enough incentive to learn and become a better person. My perception of an “ideal” chart or an “ideal” life for that matter has changed a lot these last months.

Maybe it’s your choice of words that’s triggering. A “Leo Sun appreciation thread” probably would have had less intense reactions than this topic title. But that likely was exactly your intention. Don’t complain when you get the response you were aiming at.😁

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Maybe there is not a thing as an ideal chart but if we are trying to get close to it, man is being a Leo Sun perhaps one of the biggest blessings anyone can have. I mean I kind of get it now why some astrologers go above and beyond to overhype a Scorpio. It's like the mentality of true strength (Leo) versus artificial all bark no bite strength (Scorpio). I guess as people, we have this tendency to feel bad for those who are inferior and overhype them up. It's why an overweight ugly woman can say she is pretty and society goes "you go girl" but when an actually attractive woman does it, everyone gets ****** .

posted May 04, 2022 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Maybe there is not a thing as an ideal chart but if we are trying to get close to it, man is being a Leo Sun perhaps one of the biggest blessings anyone can have. I mean I kind of get it now why some astrologers go above and beyond to overhype a Scorpio. It's like the mentality of true strength (Leo) versus artificial all bark no bite strength (Scorpio). I guess as people, we have this tendency to feel bad for those who are inferior and overhype them up. It's why an overweight ugly woman can say she is pretty and society goes "you go girl" but when an actually attractive woman does it, everyone gets ****** .

I mean I am starting to get why Leos are so heavily hated by astrologers and so many astrologers are passive-aggressively trying to downgrade the sign. What I will be curious about is how Pluto in Aquarius will affect things here, given that Aquas (especially the god awful women of that sign) have a massive inferiority complex towards Leos.

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would be less ideal than you think due to aspects

a leo with a taurus moon could have moon square sun, now give them a scorpio mars so mars is ruling its own sign now they might have moon opposite mars and sun square mars

fixed t-square, not easy to deal with

once again you're overrating exaltations and so on, these things aren't as ideal as you would think

posted May 04, 2022 11:15 AM            

these things don't represent the individual but rather the natures of signs and planets

in vedic a pisces venus while exalted is also considered a placement that can come with someone overlooking red flags or "marrying" god etc not actual physical romance or luck in those areas

a debilitated venus in virgo can be more practical and thus more able to sustain a relationship irl and could be the better partner

or mars in capricorn (which i have) in theory mars being in a sign capable of endurance and overcoming hardship and seeking status and heights is a net positive

mars can function to its highest level in this sign, however, a person who has it doesn't actually automatically exhibit those traits

i don't give a **** about status, i'm not one to follow through on plenty of things etc and so on

many things about capricorn mars don't fit me as a person, but my mars is there

it's a false assumption to think that just because something is in a "good place" it plays out well or at all

you seem to not fully grasp these concepts in actual practice, only in theory

nothing against leos either

i have a leo placement in western and in vedic my sun is there and as far as western leos go i absolutely love a guy with a leo stellium so there's no anti leo bias (though i've yet to see that displayed not sure i believe you on that)

posted May 04, 2022 11:26 AM            

what is mercury? communication, knowledge etc correct?

why is that exalted in virgo because virgo is a sign that critiques and organizes and arranges things in an orderly manner while paying attention to detail

now bring it over to pisces where virgo differentiates pisces dissolves there is a collective unconsciousness here

mercury as a result doesn't function to its true nature as a planet

however many virgo mercuries become obsessed over semantics and tiny details and discussions with them can easily dissolve into 15 minutes of debating what words mean before any forward progress in the discussion can happen

whereas a pisces mercury may be creative and spiritual and intuitive and able to have those same discussions without getting stuck on those details

so is having a pisces mercury bad and a virgo mercury good? not necessarily

it's not a representation of actual intelligence or ability to communicate at all

like aries23degrees said where these things count more is actually when it comes to things like divination

posted May 06, 2022 03:57 AM            

Leo is not objectively anything, Leo is a very self conscious worrier who puts up a facade to appear the best and knows how to sway opinions with charismatic charm and magnetism making them extremely subjective.

Are they incapable of objectivity? Well I am a Mercury in Leo, you tell me?