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teasel
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posted June 13, 2022 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 13, 2022 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I completely relate to this. I think these people can just sense that we are not the type to fight back so it’s easy to start something with us.

I think this used to be true with me, and that's one reason why I now fight back. I tended to get along with everyone, or tried to, which is also seen as suspicious by some, when I just wanted no trouble, and didn't like anyone to feel left out. That now makes me laugh, because it made me a target.

I also remember the taurus telling me that he thought I was different, but I was just like other women. I told him that was right, I am just like other women. That isn't a bad thing.

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posted June 14, 2022 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@LaceyLeigh

Sorry for the late response. Have you checked declinations between Pluto and Venus? Maybe even Moon and Pluto? There could be additional aspects hidden there that highlight these trais within you. This despite the longitudinal aspects being too wide.

Now 1stly, this aspect doesn't necessarily need to be "overcome". It is more the reaction of others that is challenging, but you cannot control other's response to you. It's a default mechanism on their end.

Plu on Ven is changing your ideas on what the Ven related themes are to you. Crushing old definitions and sometimes even ALL definitions, to replace those with something more authentic and consistently resounding with intuitive experience within.

It will be difficult for the media to continue its stronghold on you and have you fall for what their definitions of Venus issues are. In other words, you'll be less susceptible to suggestions or innuendos. This whether pertaining to beauty, clothes, self esteem, attraction and money etc. All Venus related areas.

Whilst this process of destruction of the "old order" is happening, it is painful. And that could be because of psychological attachment to all of that. So the process of destruction will be slow and thorough. Probably stretching out in duration throughout one's life. This to a point where you reach a level of feeling complete apathy for the things of Ven. And perhaps that's the point?

When you have been crushed enough and the whole attachment to the old order has been reduced, your indifference causes unconscious detachment. Gets you to that "unfeeling" and even "despondent " state. Similar to the "hitting rock bottom is sometimes the only way to go up."

We often see this in terms of heartbreak, despair and pain. That at the peak of our pain, relief shows up. Just when you have given up on love. It knocks on your door. When you are certain that your life is over, you find an unexpected new beginning.

From this state of despondency, a chance of new building structures erected and a new world is ushered in. Why? Because there is less resistance and sticking with ego attachment to "what was".

So during the destructive phase,your perspectives on the Venus themes in your life will completely change and your definition will completely alter.

So yes,this will affect self worth(Ven). You may feel crushed and then built new. Your stance on relationships with women and the divine feminine within(Ven) will be dismembered and then constructed from scratch.

It has likely started from birth ( for those with Ven-Plu) and the process of change is often slow but it is happening. And as the years pass, evolution moves from a deeply unconscious level to manifest consciously I.e your life energies are directed towards constructing your own opinion of what Ven is to you.

Part of this process however (and unfortunately) will mean having to go through the "fire" I.e. the condemnation of many others who(like sheep) follow the hollow narrative of what Venus represents and are unconsciously always under manipulation to accept a definition devoid of their own experience.

They will "hate" you for being you and not being conformed. But in actuality, the hatred is more like envy. Envy for your unfolding liberation. And resentment for their own continued bondage which(to add to the frustration) they cannot pin-point to any conscious source other than knowing that they feel "trapped" by this constant need to conform to social etiquette and standards of relations (Ven).

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posted June 14, 2022 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chocogold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I completely relate to this. I think these people can just sense that we are not the type to fight back so it’s easy to start something with us.

Yes, this could be part of it. But isn't that many people? So, what is it about us that attracts this reaction? I am not saying it is our fault--it is not. But what I mean is that I am sure we are not the only ones who play indifferent. Yes, I tend to be indifferent about people who like to brag, flex or carry themselves that way but I am not the only one. What I would like to understand is the reason we are targeted when other indifferent people are not.

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You do have a lot of Scorpio and Taurus, two jealous and stubborn (fixed signs) so maybe that has something to do with the jealousy and envy you are always experiencing.

How so? In what way? My understanding is that people with Taurus and Scorpio are the ones who suffer from jealousy and envy. And, although I am not perfect, of course I go through these feelings--I think all of us do in some extent. Yet, never to the point of wanting to mistreat or create a problem for others. As in, I am not malicious about it.

I would not try to undermine, criticise or spread lies of someone towards a teacher/landlord/supervisor out of envy/jealousy. On the other hand, this has been done to me and there is never a logical reason. Nothing that shows it was justified or that I even did something wrong.

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posted June 15, 2022 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I think this used to be true with me, and that's one reason why I now fight back. I tended to get along with everyone, or tried to, which is also seen as suspicious by some, when I just wanted no trouble, and didn't like anyone to feel left out. That now makes me laugh, because it made me a target.

I also remember the taurus telling me that he thought I was different, but I was just like other women. I told him that was right, I am just like other women. That isn't a bad thing.


I agree. I’ve been trying to defend myself, but I think people will just label us as volatile for doing what we should be doing.

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posted June 15, 2022 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not every Taurus has been negative towards me but I believe several have disliked me.
Each had similar personalities, many being born during same year.
Of any signs, this is my 6th..
My Mercury, the natural ruler of 6 is in my Capricorn, a few female Cappy's had it out for me too. I think of all 12 signs, the wmn I knew were more like enemies from those two signs.

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