posted June 01, 2022 04:45 PM            

He has a Saturn - South Node conjunction in his 6th house the sign of Scorpio squaring Venus(his 12th and 5th house ruler). Saturn is Father figure, 12th house is hidden, obscure, mysterious, square is tension, South Node is leaving something behind...Lebron has never known the whereabouts of his father, doesn't know the identity of his dad and doesn't even know if he's alive.

His 4th house lord Mercury is in his 6th house conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius. Capricorn Sun in 7th receiving a sextile from his Pluto.

Another Basketball star, Shaquille O'Neal, has no relationship with his biological father. He was raised by his stepfather. Born on March 6th, 1972 at 8:00am in Newark, NY.

Shaq is an Aries rising and has a 12th house Pisces sun sextile his Mars. His 4th house lord, the Moon,is debilitated and sitting in his 7th house. His Saturn sits in the 2nd house in the 0 degree of Gemini trining his Libra Pluto in the 6th house. He also has the south node sitting in his 4th house in the sign of Leo.

posted June 02, 2022 12:41 AM            

Also my Sun is in Aquarius. His (Dad's) in Leo, Opposite suns. I see this as though a shadow effect.. my mother is a Aquarius ASc and her ASC is cnj my Sun (0) and to me she wore the shoes of both mom and Dad.
She was overbearing often too. If my Dad had lived my mother might had thrown him aside and done the raising of me. She's
the type that I imagine would had made sure what she said went.

posted June 02, 2022 11:09 AM            

I would look at Sun in 12th/Pisces or in aspect to Neptune. Sun also 12th from the house it rules.Typically connections to Pis,Nep or house 12.

In Shaquille's life, they moved around because Dad was in the military.Shaq has Moon(ruler of Ic)conj Nep in Sag. Nep rules oceans.

Shaq was adopted(Sat).Sat opp Moon(ruler of the Ic and early nourishment). And Saturn happens to rule the 11th house.

LeBron's childhood was Merc ruled. There was a lot of moving around.Merc(ruler of the Ic) conj Ura.

I find it interesting that at some point he was also adopted(in part) by the Walker family. And once again, Sat/11th house connections are found.

posted June 02, 2022 03:45 PM            

She is a Cancer Rising with her Moon in the 7th house in the 29th degree, so karmic relationships will be a theme in her life (including the one with her father...Capricorn is Father Saturn's sign)

She also has a 29th degree Aries Sun which squares her asc. ruler the Moon. So hostility/tension between the mother and father. On top of that, Kate has Jupiter in Cancer in her 1st house squaring her Sun and opposing her Moon. Jupiter rules her 6th house of obstacles, so the square to her Sun (father) again hints to a challenging relationship with the father figure.

posted June 02, 2022 04:01 PM            

Kelly was born on February 11, 1981 at 2:00am in Atlanta, GA. She is a Sagittarius Rising, with her 1st and 4th lord Jupiter conjunct an exalted Saturn in her 10th house. She has had challenges both in her career as well as in her home life. Her Saturn/Jupiter conjunction is also trining her 2nd house South Node.

posted June 02, 2022 05:13 PM            

Natal 1H Venus in Scorp square 4H Saturn in Aqua (conjunct Aqua IC)

posted June 02, 2022 06:15 PM              

For a couple years or so, didn't really ever see him, but around age 8 or so, he started to try to hang out with my brother and I occasionally. Would bring us to the arcade, movies, or the like. Wasn't very often, and my mom was wary of these hangouts because of him drinking.

Visits stopped for a long time. Not sure why.

Chart ruler, the Sun, in Cap (in 5th and 6th) and square Libra Pluto (ruler of IC) in 3rd. But I also have a lot of flowing/harmonious aspects to my Sun as well. Trine from Mars Jupiter conjunction, wide sextile with angular Uranus, etc.

posted June 03, 2022 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Summer Madness:
Singer Kelly Rowland has not seen or spoken to her father since she was 6 years old.

Kelly was born on February 11, 1981 at 2:00am in Atlanta, GA. She is a Sagittarius Rising, with her 1st and 4th lord Jupiter conjunct an exalted Saturn in her 10th house. She has had challenges both in her career as well as in her home life. Her Saturn/Jupiter conjunction is also trining her 2nd house South Node.

Her 3rd house Aquarius Sun trines her Pluto in Libra and squares her unaspected Taurus Moon in the 6th. Her parents divorced when she as 6.

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Kelly also has Sun square Uranus in house 12. Sun sextile Neptune. There is that connection with the 12th house/ Nep and Pis with the Sun again spoken of in my earlier post.

posted June 03, 2022 02:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Summer Madness:
Actress Kate Hudson has no relationship with her father and has publicly stated that all her life she's felt abandoned by him.

She is a Cancer Rising with her Moon in the 7th house in the 29th degree, so karmic relationships will be a theme in her life (including the one with her father...Capricorn is Father Saturn's sign)

She also has a 29th degree Aries Sun which squares her asc. ruler the Moon. So hostility/tension between the mother and father. On top of that, Kate has Jupiter in Cancer in her 1st house squaring her Sun and opposing her Moon. Jupiter rules her 6th house of obstacles, so the square to her Sun (father) again hints to a challenging relationship with the father figure.

Her Saturn is in Virgo in her 2nd house, only receiving a Trine aspect to Chiron (pain, wounds, healing).

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In Kate's case, ruler of the 12th is Mercury. Mercury is conj Mars(ruler of the 10th-Father).

posted June 03, 2022 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Emsie:
Adding my experience to the "child willingly deciding not to be around the father" part:

Natal 1H Venus in Scorp square 4H Saturn in Aqua (conjunct Aqua IC)

My biological father is still alive, but he is basically non-existent - or if the Scorp speaks from me - dead to me. His past actions (abuse) alienated not only me, but his whole fam...

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posted June 03, 2022 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
I forgave all 4 of these guys (3 father figures and ex best male friend). But maybe not completely if my connections with other males is any indication (i.e. almost non existent at this point).

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posted June 03, 2022 09:47 AM              

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Forgave or decided that you were not going to think about it anymore? That you were not going to let it affect you anymore?...

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Actually consciously worked on it in various ways. Like meditating and visualizing them, realizing that they are part of Source and Oneness and feeling unconditional Love and acceptance towards them and forgiving both them and myself. And not so much for their sake, but more for my own. I was a bit surprised at myself when the last time I saw my step father, I actually gave him a hug for some reason. I had spent years more likely to bash his face in.

The issue is that while the Soul forgives quickly, the body does not quickly nor easily let go of trauma, pain, etc. The body physical is a very slow moving field that holds onto patterns. For the body level, it can take many years to more truly and fully let go of such stuff.

This is why if there has been a murder or violence in a house, even after the people are long gone from a place, that vibe in the very matter surroundings often lingers there. Just the nature of physical energy. Physical is literally energy slowed down to a very slow vibratory and dense field.

Do you think if I hadn't mostly forgiven my bio dad that I would have let him move in with me when I was in my mid 20's? No, I would have said, be happy being homeless. I gave him a chance because I had mostly forgiven him (minus that body level that lags behind).

posted June 03, 2022 09:58 AM              

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Yet, it's still here. In your having difficulty getting close to other people, even if you want it so much, in your being used to being alone, even if this hurts you, in your choosing people who can't
truly love you, can't be there by your side, can't stay with you...

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We've talked about this before. I told you that I got very specific guidance about this subject and was told it was more about rate of vibration/wavelength than anything else. My friend who has a similar issue (who btw, had a positive relationship with his father figure) had almost the same exact dream as I had, about being at a school he didn't normally go to, helping the students but they weren't interested in getting/being close to him, seeing himself as much older than the other students etc. Not a "coincidence" that we both would receive almost the same exact kind of guidance dream when we both have the same issue with people in general.

People have been trying to put me in little boxes all of my life. It can't, and doesn't work.

And I will fully admit that I do tend to keep men/males at a distance. I'm very conscious of this and the reasons why. But this does not apply to women. And yet, that energetic reaction still happens time and time again.

I do have a problem with forgiving one woman, Ms 245 (because she ripped my heart out and then stomped on it), but in time, I will forgive her and let go of it. With her, right now, it IS indeed mostly a repression and shoving down, and not wanting to think (and especially feel) about and deal with it.

My partner does mostly love me. She is still learning to more fully love and accept herself though, and that is not a quick nor easy process for someone with so much fixed energy (and again, there is that internal vibrational/wavelength difference between us. When people come upon a faster vibration than themselves these reactions are what most often happens--they either dislike the energy and feel uncomfortable around it, they overly put it on a pedestal and objectify it, or they just can't and don't perceive it--just like Souls phased in the 4th dimension cannot perceive what Souls in the 5th dimension are doing. All reactions create "distance" between the two vibratory sources, but the faster vibratory source loves and accepts the slower vibratory source).

posted June 03, 2022 01:31 PM              

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
I have no painful story to share, but if I had, I'm not sure if I could ever be as brave as you and everyone else here to speak about it,as I have always fought my battles and endured my pains silently and hidden.

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Don't have much time right now. But thank you for sharing. Why do you think that is the case? I mean, astrologically, it is clearly linked to your strong Scorpio, 8th House, and Aries combo, but that only says so much, and symbolically and generally so.

posted June 05, 2022 11:55 PM              

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
I am grateful and blessed to have many people around me who love me and care for me and want to help me, but no one can see what I see in those times when darkness comes. In those times, it is I who have brought myself there. And it is only I who will get me back to my path.

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Hmmm Eternal. Perhaps, but perhaps not. I have known my share of folks with those 3 energies strong as a combo i.e. Scorpio, 8th House, and Aries. My life path seems to have been caught up/bound with such folks. For example, like my ex best male friend, who has Aries Rising with Scorpio Moon and Uranus in the 8th.

Or that woman, who I have dubbed 245, with her Aries Sun in the 8th and Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto and IC.

Not the only ones either. But my experience of folks with this particular combo/pattern, is that deep down, they are terrified of being vulnerable with others, and yet so crave and long for intense connection. They don't seem to realize that you can't have the latter, without the former.

Communication and sharing relates to a open heart center. Bruce Moen taught me this. Another male in my life that dissappointed and somewhat pained me, but much less so than most, and a very different connection as I initially put him on a pedestal. One of the only males I have met, besides my beloved Yeshua that I have done this with.

Bruce also is in that combo pattern some too, and in some ways even closer to you. He had Neptune Rising, his chart ruler was in the 8th, Aries Sun, and Scorpio South Node. He spent much of his life being the "strong, silent" type. It took him a long while, and a lot of clear, conscious communication with guidance to realize that he wasn't being "strong", but actually the opposite. It was a self defense mechanism, and his heart was somewhat closed. He had always been a fairly loving, considerate, ethical, and spiritual person, but he was so sensitive from a young age that it was overwhelming to him, and he shut down some when he was a child (and then spent many years being unconscious to this).

He talks a lot about in his book(s) how open, honest, direct communication is a symptom, and facilitator of, a truly open heart. This is something that I also struggled with for many years, because I kept EVERYTHING within and to self (especially anything difficult, painful, or the like).

Bruce ended up having some heart issues later in life, severe enough that he had to have surgery. He said, after the heart surgery, his emotions were amplified, he couldn't help but to tear up/cry at a drop of a hat when things touched him or he felt anothers pain.

Point being, is that you may not be as open as you tend to perceive and believe about yourself. Because sharing and communicating your pain, your shadows, etc IS a part of Love. Open, direct, vulnerable communication in general is a big part of Love. There is no room for "strong, silent" types in Love as Bruce painfully and eventually learned.

Sometimes I get the sense that you confuse intense desire (i.e. red type energies) overmuch with Love. There is a connection, but they are not the same. Your Venus, while idealistic, universal, and noble, is at times, over influenced by the intellect or by beliefs. This is shown by Aqua Venus closely conjunct Aqua Mercury.

posted June 06, 2022 12:47 AM            

My Sun is in the 12th house
Venus (4th ruler) is in 12th conj. Sun
Mercury rules my Gem Sun and Venus and rules my 12th and also sits in the 12th with them.
12th ruler Mercury conj. 10th ruler Mars, also in 12th
Uranus tightly conj. IC in 4th house
4th house Uranus/IC tightly trines Saturn in 11th
Chiron sits on Midheaven opposing Uranus on IC
Neptune in 5th trines Midheaven