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teasel
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posted June 06, 2022 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Moon and Venus are conjunct the SN in Gemini, square Mars in Pisces, trine Pluto, sextile Jupiter.

Mercury is conjunct Ceres, Chiron, and Sun in Aries. Scorpio ascendant, conjunct Uranus. Saturn square Jupiter and Pluto. Mars trine Uranus/ascendant.

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Dumuzi
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posted June 06, 2022 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I've tried weed and alcohol and really really hated them both. I absolutely hate not having control over my own mind and body. I relate this to my moon conjunct Pluto, Mercury opposite pluto. Pluto needs to control so I can not let myself go where alcohol or drugs are concerned. So I'd say strong Pluto aspects to personal planets. I also have saturn in scorpio so that just adds to the mix.

i have pluto sextile sun and in placidus it falls into my first house, and i love drugs and don't care much about control like that have had severe issues with substance abuse too

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posted June 06, 2022 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I have a strong dislike of everything that makes me loose control as well. Pluto conjunct my Ascendant and trine my Mercury. I don’t like it when substances change the way I perceive things. Maybe my Virgo Moon also plays a role. I’m health conscious and am not too keen on putting certain chemicals is my body. Even when I have a headache I will choose to not take any painkillers but just accept it for what it is.

i'm a virgo sun, plenty of famous virgo addicts or people with strong virgo in their chart (kurt cobain was a virgo ascendant, river phoenix and amy winehouse were virgo suns) self medicating can be a very virgo thing

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posted June 07, 2022 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
My Moon and Venus...

It is important to note in your chart that both your Aries Sun, and your Gemini Moon/Venus conjunction are cusping Taurus, the most fixed Sign of them all. Combined with Scorpio Asc with Uranus Rising (both either fixed or fixed related) energies, is why I said on another thread that you have a highly fixed chart. (Though, I've seen even more intensely fixed charts than yours. The technical mutable placements do help to counter balance some. I would say both my partner's, and ms 245's charts are even more fixed than yours).

Cusping is very, very real and important.

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Dons2angelss
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posted June 07, 2022 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
It is important to note in your chart that both your Aries Sun, and your Gemini Moon/Venus conjunction are cusping Taurus, the most fixed Sign of them all. Combined with Scorpio Asc with Uranus Rising (both either fixed or fixed related) energies, is why I said on another thread that you have a highly fixed chart. (Though, I've seen even more intensely fixed charts than yours. The technical mutable placements do help to counter balance some. I would say both my partner's, and ms 245's charts are even more fixed than yours).

Cusping is very, very real and important.



I agree, my moon is at 29 libra and I can definitely see where libra comes swinging in, but scorpio is always right there waiting for it to plunge in. My Merc is also at 28 Aries so even though it's very much an Aries mercury, I still feel the taurus pull.

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posted June 07, 2022 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dons, yep, I have noticed similar in both self and a number of others.

Cayce's guidance indicated that people with strong cusping in their charts tended to be a better judge of character than the average because they really had to figure themselves out with all their complexity and competing urges and tendencies.

Obviously this will apply to some Sign cusping areas more than to others. Libra-Scorpio is particularly tuned into/focused on others, and personify the "interpersonal" nature of that quadrant of the Zodiac.

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Dons2angelss
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posted June 07, 2022 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd also like to add that retrogrades can help someone be more in tune with their inner self and that could lead to better life choices. I have 6 in my chart and even with a stellium in the 12th (which can be prone to addiction) I think all of that energy being turned inward definitely helped me stay away from anything that would take me away from myself ie drugs or alcohol.

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posted June 07, 2022 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemJams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting point about the retrogrades.I have 6 of them too.

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Dons2angelss
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posted June 07, 2022 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemJams:
Interesting point about the retrogrades.I have 6 of them too.

We were probably born around the same time. I have mars through Pluto retrograde

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posted June 07, 2022 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemJams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury,Venus,Saturn,Uranus,Neptune and Pluto retrograde.

My Mars might as well be retro,it’s in Pisces in the 12th house. Lol

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posted June 07, 2022 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree on the retrogrades probably being an important factor. I don't have as many as you guys. I've got four instead of six. I've got a 12th house stellium, though, of Sun-Venus-Mercury-Mars, so that combined with the four retrogrades makes me very self-contained.

I've got a Neptune fire singleton in the 5th house, and Neptune in 5th can often show up as liking recreational drug or alcohol use. I'm not sure why it's not the case for me. I think the tight Pluto in my chart just makes me too much of a control freak to be willing to risk losing control of myself.

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Dons2angelss
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posted June 07, 2022 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I have mars~Pluto retrograde and sun venus and mercury in the 12th. My moon is exactly conjunct Pluto so basically a whole lot of focus on my inner self.
Another thing, my nn is exactly on my ascendant so that's just an extra umph of focus on the self and deterring me away from anything that would prevent that. I don't believe for a second that any drug will bring someone closer to their self like some claim. If anything I think it only clouds your judgment of your true self.

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Gracha
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posted June 07, 2022 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a agreement with several posters on mercury. I don't want anything that will cause me to lose control of my senses/surroundings. I have mercury conjunct sun and square moon/jupiter/neptune/uranus. I hate the taste of alcohol, haven't tried illegal drugs nor want to.

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