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LovelyAries86
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posted July 10, 2022 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It's cool. I like robust debates. I am not offended 🙏🏿 Differences of opinion are not bad. They expand knowledge.

Interestingly,Amber Heard has her Moon in Lib opp her Mercury in Aries. So I guess its the Mercury in Aries the world experiences? This even as she feels that she is "fair minded" and peaceful etc. We experience her as aggressive and self centred


You hate Libras don't you?? 😂 J/K!

Glad you're not offended. Expanding knowledge is so important, I feel. If I'm not growing, I'm not living. 💯 *sips tea*

You somewhat remind me of this Sag/Cancer that I dated. His Venus was also in Scorpio and our Moons were conjunct. He *knew* when I was making an accurate point but often still wanted to debate me. Lol. Other times, he doted on me and would express great admiration for the person that I was. So in true "opposites" fashion... he loved & hated my Taurus Venus at the same time! 🙂 He was sometimes accepting, other times intolerant.

Whereas I was much more consistent in how I presented myself & interacted with others. Whether people "liked" it or not.

He was a superb charmer though. ❤ Deeply intuitive. Strong. And sexy.

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posted July 10, 2022 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The Moon alone would not do this. This Moon is responsible so it must be something else like Gemini something


Ami you've become "Where's Waldo?" these days. We *never* know when we'll see you anymore! LOL

But fair point.

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posted July 10, 2022 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Doesnt she have a Moon square Mars aspect? I thought i remember her having that and that is why i find her aggressive and snappy because in my experience Martian moons can be very touchy, self centered, combative and on the defensive a lot. And all the lying and acting like a victim trying so hard to make her mouth look so sad like a child and just simply disorting reality i think comes from all that Neptune influence.


Also, AH has Mercury moon t -sq. And, Taurus Sun op. Pluto could be revengeful and selfish.
Taurus could be like that by itself, and theres Pluto to add extra.

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posted July 10, 2022 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It's cool. I like robust debates. I am not offended 🙏🏿 Differences of opinion are not bad. They expand knowledge.

Interestingly,Amber Heard has her Moon in Lib opp her Mercury in Aries. So I guess its the Mercury in Aries the world experiences? This even as she feels that she is "fair minded" and peaceful etc. We experience her as aggressive and self centred


I know people with similar charts to AH, none of them Libra, but theyre somewhat aggressive and could extremely overreact. But they also get aggression on themselves.
I could argue to death if I believe Im right (!), but Im not aggressive and dont lie. Also, because Libra can see something what other people are missing.
So what you said about Libra its not true, but Im too lazy now to reread and argue about that.

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posted July 11, 2022 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Doesnt she have a Moon square Mars aspect? I thought i remember her having that and that is why i find her aggressive and snappy because in my experience Martian moons can be very touchy, self centered, combative and on the defensive a lot. And all the lying and acting like a victim trying so hard to make her mouth look so sad like a child and just simply disorting reality i think comes from all that Neptune influence.


Yes. She has the T-square of Moon in Lib opp Merc in Aries sqaure Mars in Cap.

The square and opp to Moon of Mars and Mercury respectively, will make the Moon defensive and feel "attacked". It is easily triggered.

I recall watching an interview where she was irritable because people were moving around in the background whilst the journalist was asking questions.

It was years before the trial involving Johnny and I recall thinking that I wouldn't want to work with someone who is so touchy about things that are beyond other's control. 🤦🏿‍️

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posted July 11, 2022 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
You hate Libras don't you?? 😂 J/K!

Glad you're not offended. Expanding knowledge is so important, I feel. If I'm not growing, I'm not living. 💯 *sips tea*

You somewhat remind me of this Sag/Cancer that I dated. His Venus was also in Scorpio and our Moons were conjunct. He *knew* when I was making an accurate point but often still wanted to debate me. Lol. Other times, he doted on me and would express great admiration for the person that I was. So in true "opposites" fashion... he loved & hated my Taurus Venus at the same time! 🙂 He was sometimes accepting, other times intolerant.

Whereas I was much more consistent in how I presented myself & interacted with others. Whether people "liked" it or not.

He was a superb charmer though. ❤ Deeply intuitive. Strong. And sexy.


🤣🤣....No hate I promise.I myself have Mars in Libra opp Asc in Aries.Mars squares Moon in Cancer and opposes Mercury in Cap. Mars is in the 7th.

I actually like debating. But not necessarily for its own ends. I also want clarity that perhaps there is somethimg that (at first blush) I took to be one thing. But it is actually something else 🤷🏿‍♂️

I have a Venus in Taurus friend with his Venus and Moon in Cap opp my Ven and Moon. And we get into long debates where we end up agreeing to disagree.

We also have Mars opp Sun double whammy I.e my Mars in Lib opp his Sun in Aries. His Mars in Can opp my Sun in Sag(out of sign). So we can agree on many things. But when we don't agree, we really feel that neither one of us sees the other's point of view.

And yes. Venus in Sco(like Ven in Ari) by virtue of being on a planet that is antithetical to its ruler (Mars), can swing between acceptance and intolerance even without the opposition.Even Mars in Libra(and Mars in Tau) can be this way.

I often find that strong feelings are part and parcel of Sco/Aries placements-this especially Moon/Ven.Or whenever Mars is reacting with personal planets.🤔. Objectivity is difficult with Mars because Mars can be single minded and inflexible when its fires are stoked.

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posted July 11, 2022 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About Cancer moon now, childish - yes. And I dont consider my own moon too mature. I consider my mom (Cancer moon) to be a strong woman, but she often cannot express emotions properly. And she would be one of the last people I would want to share my emotions with.
I dont share with her much about my personal life for my own mental health.
Were good if I dont care much about her approval. She is pretty good with caring about house and stuff around. (Dont quote)

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posted July 11, 2022 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
🤣🤣....No hate I promise.I myself have Mars in Libra opp Asc in Aries.Mars squares Moon in Cancer and opposes Mercury in Cap. Mars is in the 7th.

I actually like debating. But not necessarily for its own ends. I also want clarity that perhaps there is somethimg that (at first blush) I took to be one thing. But it is actually something else 🤷🏿‍♂️


I was thinking that, too. Like doesn't this dude have Libra Mars?! 😂

Many Libras do debate a lot. One guy I'm vibing with is a Libra Sun & Scorpio Venus. What's been your experience with them?

And you mentioned your Aries friend. Do you typically get along well with us?

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posted July 12, 2022 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Librapurr

Does your Mom have Sat/Ura in aspect to her Moon? Or a Cap planet in opposition to it?

Maybe you have Moon in the 12th house? Or Moon in aspect Ura/Sat? Or in 4th/8th?

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posted July 12, 2022 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ LovelyAries86

I know 2; LibSun/Sco Venus is an ex of mine. He however had Cap Moon/Leo Mars and ( I strongly suspect) Taurus Ascending.

He was very laid back. This to a point of seeming apathetic. Didn't have much energy-hence I suspect Taurus rising.

There was (however) some animosity on the home front. He was to a large extent estranged from his family(Mars in Leo in 4th). And so I got the idea that this motivated him to be dislocated from his feelings as well(add to THAT Cap Moon).

I find the Mars/Ven mix to be (as I stipulated earlier)a back/forth or high/low because of the extreme polar opposite energies involved.

So with Ven-Sco,one is likely to attract those that represent Venus in Sco- hot natured (because of Mars ruling Ven). Or be the type who projects these qualities on to a partner.

Are they the type to attract "crazy" and not know why? My ex thought I was "intense". Maybe because he was so laid back. So I was the "fire"🤷🏿‍♂️.

We unfortunately abruptly ended things( his fault). He decided to ghost me. It hurt like a mother f****. Mars was transiting the 7th conj natal Mars. Mars contra-parallel 7th too and Uranus is contra parallel natal Mars conj 7th. That was a sure sign.

I don't think I loved him. We were not fiercely compatible.But I was just in a vulnerable state and he aggravated the wound.

The 2nd one is a friend of mine.He is Lib Sun/Moon in Leo,Aqua Asc with Venus in Sco. He is similar. Stays away from "hot" emotions or expressing them (it could be the Aqua Asc and projected Moon IN Leo in house 7 too).

He has been single for as long as I can remember. Maybe because of Sun(ruler of 7th) in its "fall" sign of Lib and in the 8th house? It also squares Neptune. So there is distance between he and "partnerships"(7th).

In both, I notice reluctance to act on/acknowledge "hot" feelings.They seem to always want to intellectualize them and detach-rather than feel.

I feel like he is detached from his sexuality. He doesn't allow himself to want what he really wants. That Moon in Leo is opposed (foreign) from the 1st house Aqua

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posted July 12, 2022 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In as far as getting along with Aries is concerned. I do like Aries. But most I meet are not pro" friendships or partnerships. They function very independent of others. Aries Moon too.

I do get that (I have Asc in Aries after all) and so it makes long-term bonding unlikely. So we are mostly friendly but distant.

Good friends are usually Tau or Libra Suns or Moons. My best friend is Aqua Sun with Pisces Moon.I seem to get on with air Suns/Moon for friendships. Whilst romantically, it's typically Virgo/Libra or Tau Sun/Moon.🙌🏿

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posted July 13, 2022 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be explosive but I'm not immature and I'm far from a crybaby. I've been raised by parents where the parent - child role was reversed (the kids were made to feel they had to protect one parent and tiptoe around the other one as to not set him off - the children were made responsible for the parents' emotions so to say) so I developed finely attuned antenna when it comes to the emotions of others and possible danger coming from them. I could manipulate others to get what I want from them if I wanted to but that is beneath me.
I am far from clingy and I detest clinginess from others. I can only accept it from my 2 year old nephew but he is cool and not overly clingy anyway :P

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posted July 13, 2022 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I can be explosive but I'm not immature and I'm far from a crybaby. I've been raised by parents where the parent - child role was reversed (the kids were made to feel they had to protect one parent and tiptoe around the other one as to not set him off - the children were made responsible for the parents' emotions so to say) so I developed finely attuned antenna when it comes to the emotions of others and possible danger coming from them. I could manipulate others to get what I want from them if I wanted to but that is beneath me.
I am far from clingy and I detest clinginess from others. I can only accept it from my 2 year old nephew but he is cool and not overly clingy anyway :P

I relate to this quite a bit. Had to grow up early.

My emotional intelligence & ability to manipulate are Top Notch. But I choose to use my "powers" for GOOD. 💜 And while I'm affectionate, I truly *hate* feeling smothered.

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posted July 13, 2022 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries23

Thank you for your response. 👍🏾

I'm sorry your ex ghosted you. I find that sh*t to be so cowardly!

The Lib/Scorp I'm talking to has Cap Mars & Gemini ASC. So he's far from apathetic or lazy. Thank goodness! But he definitely can be unnerved by "hot" emotions, as you said. Add to that, his (otherwise juicy) Scorpio Venus sits in the 6H - and I find that Virgo Influence often waters down the passion. So ugh lol

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posted July 13, 2022 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I relate to this quite a bit. Had to grow up early.

My emotional intelligence & ability to manipulate are Top Notch. But I choose to use my "powers" for GOOD. 💜 And while I'm affectionate, I truly *hate* feeling smothered.


Are you a Cancer moon, too?

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posted July 13, 2022 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
Are you a Cancer moon, too?

Yes! 🌕

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posted July 13, 2022 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Aries23

Thank you for your response. 👍🏾

I'm sorry your ex ghosted you. I find that sh*t to be so cowardly!

The Lib/Scorp I'm talking to has Cap Mars & Gemini ASC. So he's far from apathetic or lazy. Thank goodness! But he definitely can be unnerved by "hot" emotions, as you said. Add to that, his (otherwise juicy) Scorpio Venus sits in the 6H - and I find that Virgo Influence often waters down the passion. So ugh lol


Is Mars in the 8th or 7th?

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posted July 13, 2022 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is Mars in the 8th or 7th?

In the 9th.

He's not a boring person. Just doesn't always know how to handle intense emotions in others (unless it's sex).

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posted July 14, 2022 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect if one were to raise an issue of contention that is 9th house related I.e. religion, politics or education etc. One may see sparks fly🤣.

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posted July 15, 2022 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I suspect if one were to raise an issue of contention that is 9th house related I.e. religion, politics or education etc. One may see sparks fly🤣.

Oh definitely true.

He also has Mercury conjunct Saturn. So he's rather preachy LOL

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posted July 19, 2022 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. I always say that if you really want to pi*** someone off, look at where their Mars is at . Then play around those themes e.g give a Mars in 6th really bad service. Call a Mars in 3rd house person's ideas "simple" or "stupid". Win a game against a Mars in 5th or lose a Mars in 2nd house's money or item they bought.

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