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LilyIris07
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posted July 21, 2022 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

But there is no one who could be 100% perfect, I mean surely in marriage or long term-relationships apart of the gig is to problem solve and work through stuff to a certain extent?

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vansio
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posted July 21, 2022 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, the relationship itself is not meant to be perfect otherwise there would be nothing to work on together. however, I think anyone’s chart will expose exactly what the person is dealing with, perhaps together, and from there, choose whether these soul lessons are relative enough to take seriously, positive or negatively. So, to not “date” someone because of their chart is practical. It’s practiced. Why not try to be friends-only first if the synastry shows “bad”?

Something as simple as not wanting kids, and the other does, can be seen in charts, without even asking the person about it. Even deeper, seeing infertility in the chart, is another level of astrology… seeing that someone has an alcoholic father that they’re traumatized by, the list goes on and on.

True “compatibility” is more intricate matter of reconciling the natal charts. Where personal Expectation meets Behavior. Beliefs meet Reality. Will and fate. Union

Our own 7th House and Ruler, it’s aspects, will show the character we’re looking for, and go so far as project that image onto our partner, as if it were them. And vice-versa.

My 7th House Ruler Saturn is in Aquarius (9th), and Neptune/Uranus in the 7th. So, Pisces/Aquarius/Capricorn/Sagittarius placements in a partner, even when I project my “relationship” expectations onto them, they will resonate, as a their own personhood.

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LilyIris07
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posted July 21, 2022 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope the unquoting worked! How would you see if someone is noncommittal/a cheater?

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LilyIris07
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posted July 21, 2022 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also to see if someone is like your ideal, so my 7th house ruler is Mercury in Gemini - would it be someone making aspects to my Mercury?

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vansio
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posted July 21, 2022 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ll get back to ya a bit later, tho I want to clarify: not ”ideal”—7H rules our perception of the Other, consciously or not.

7th is both the house of our marriage and our open enemies. Irregardless of who we’re fixating on, this is what we’re seeing “about” the Other.

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posted July 21, 2022 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Honestly, the second synastry looks better anyway - and I have heard that pluto in the composite can add a little bit of spice to the love stellium. I think moon-venus is lovely too...

I sort of still into this guy that I will never have a relationship with - I remember the first time looking at his chart thinking its so pretty, getting a not too bad vibe from the synastry, sun-moon conjunct/sextile, moon-moon sextile,venus-moon sextile, venus-sun trine, nn conjunct venus, pluto-venus DW blah blah... it just never picked up, but imagine there is someone I have bad synastry with and it actually turns into something. Sigh now I'm just babbling sorry.


Seriously you don’t think the conjunctions are better astrological wise? Pluto is definitely spicy 😋 but I’ve read that it also means selfishness and control from the guy. Jealousy is a thing but I don’t know about selfishness…doesn’t seem to be a big issue between us. We’re both quick to react (natal Moon square Mars) so that contributes to all our stupid arguments.

I think a nice Synastry doesn’t mean anything will happen. I’ve had Sun conj Moon with 2 guys and nothing…

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Also to see if someone is like your ideal, so my 7th house ruler is Mercury in Gemini - would it be someone making aspects to my Mercury?

My ASC and Venus are in Gemini. We’ll be quite a match. 🤭

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posted July 21, 2022 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Hi Hikaru 👋🏽 nice to see you again.

It takes time for the ugly of squares/quincunx to show up, and by then people are already some kind of serious commitment (invested). 😬 The classic relationship-issue timeline; “problem-solving” madness after honeymoon period.

One can only hope (or decide) that there are more harmonious aspects than disharmonious, implications. I’m choosing to decide. If the other person wants to make their case about being together, despite my detachment, that’s fair game for consideration. Though rarely are men pursuing a new women with the long game in mind—we’d all be building that legacy with our irresistible crushes by now. Women have a hand in settling.

As an astrologer, at least someone incredibly invested in this craft, I’ll be using it to my/our advantage. If waiting for great compatibility keeps me single for now, so be it, more time to focus on developing myself. Going for gold—a 50 years marriage anniversary someday. A lineage, abundance. My Capricorn DC talking. Capricorn rules gold

I sternly believe one can achieve whatever they put their mind to.

There’s a joke in the Vedic astrology community that westerners (to their detriment) wait until the marriage (already in the relationship) to have their charts matched. Technically we should be seeking this intel the moment someone is even potential, without second-guessing.

Granted the vedic system doesn’t use synastry as we know it, rather, strict natal-based matching, to interpret compatibility, across multiple divisional (harmonic) charts.


Hi vansio, it’s been awhile! ✌🏼

Yeah, I get that… squares take some time to show… although in my case the Mercury-Mars square DW with my 1st bf was very quick to rear its ugly head (lol) and our Venus-Moon conjunction can’t save it at all.

Yes overall chart should be taken into consideration, more harmonious than disharmonious aspects like you said would be ideal. One can only pray for it and for romance to bloom as promised in the charts, but many times it doesn’t happen… just like Sun-Moon conjunct always doesn't work for me and I seemed to have a tricky rs with Gemini Mooners even though it likely conjunct my Venus or ASC. I think we know our own chart best as we’ve tried n tested them personally.

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There’s a joke in the Vedic astrology community that westerners (to their detriment) wait until the marriage (already in the relationship) to have their charts matched. Technically we should be seeking this intel the moment someone is even potential, without second-guessing.

Lol, well… people in the West move in together after knowing each other for 2 weeks and get married 3-6 months in, so what can I say? 😅 Do they even have time to think and analyse? And here on LL so many people judge the commitment of a rs based on whether they’re living together which is laughable because if this is the criteria then all of these couples should be committed but why are their relationships so short-term? And people call a 1yr rs longterm omg. I can’t comprehend.

Yes I agree we should check our charts before marriage but no I won’t let the charts decide if I wanna pursue a rs or not unless it shows way too much harshness especially to my inner planets. Then again you know what? A great chart doesn’t guarantee longterm happiness as well. I spoke to friend who got married through match-making. Married a long time but not happy, always fighting. Not true love, he said. My parents also got married through match-making. My mom said my dad wasn’t her ideal and in various ways they’re very different actually…

How have you been btw? Dating lately?

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LilyIris07
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posted July 23, 2022 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do think conjunctions are great, but there has to be other stuff and more often I see average synastry turning into something; but that’s probably a good composite too

Oooo Gem Asc we love that, I’m here when ya want me 💁🏻‍♀️

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LilyIris07
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posted July 23, 2022 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do think conjunctions are great, but there has to be other stuff and more often I see average synastry turning into something; but that’s probably a good composite too

Oooo Gem Asc we love that, I’m here when ya want me 💁🏻‍♀️

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