posted July 26, 2022 08:31 AM            

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posted July 26, 2022 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
Sis Aries23Degrees, please please can you do me a favor and help read her chart IF she was Saggi Rising? How was she as a mom IF she has Saggi Rising? The second chart I post in previous page.
Would she be a better mom if she was Saggi Rising instead? Chart back in page. 1

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That's my point.It will be more accurate with the added transits I spoke of. It's not enough to deduce the personality from just the chart alone and guessing which "fits". That is very subjective and open to misinterpretation.

But when we use objective transits. Then we can see what Asc is most likely correct.

# a disclaimer. I am no expert at this( I must say this). But I want to see where this leads us.

posted July 26, 2022 11:05 AM            

So the earliest her mom can gave birth to her is 9PM (which is Scorpio Asc).
Or 10PM which is Saggitarius Asc.
or 11:30PM which is Capricorn Asc.

I honestly wrote out the 9PM Asc one because women after their water broke don't give birth right away (I know this, I'm a mom, I gave birth before).

I honestly think my mother in-law is the 11:30PM Capricorn Asc.

It can't go passed that night, because she born late that night, the date of her birth wrote on the birth certificate is that specific day, it CAN'T climb over to the next day. So I'm sure, the last Asc of that night was Capricorn Asc at 11:30PM.

Is her Wedding date with my father in-law be OK to do the recertification? We can try that.

posted July 26, 2022 11:30 AM            

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posted October 05, 2022 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
I know alot of Aries Moon and they don't have a temper at all, like at all. Including my mother in-law (whom both Aries Moon and Aries Venus).

I guess we just have different experience.

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i have an aries moon in tropical and most people find me very laid back, it takes a long time for someone to get me really angry and then longer for me to even react generally speaking. if we're close enough for me to lose my temper (most likely scenario, unless someone random yells at me) then i'll be more likely to in the future. still i get over things quickly generally and am very forgiving, there's no anything there brewing after. if i still feel bad about something after i won't stay angry, will just be sad and eventually forget about it and move on. if nothing changes and it comes up again i'll get mad then. 🤷‍♀️ it's very easy for me to get caught up in whatever momentary feeling i have, but the awareness that it's changeable is there as well. so i don't tend to indulge negative feelings (when i do it's because something is deeply wrong) because they'll pass and they aren't any fun, whereas good feelings are so that's different. my moon is part of a kite and t-square though.

moon square mars (cap) conjunct north node and descendant, opposite libra venus/south node/ascendant, trine leo mercury, trine sag uranus (and then mercury and uranus sextile my venus + and my mars squares all that)

posted October 05, 2022 12:47 PM            

plutonian anger is often either passive aggressive and subversive or turned up to 100 something extreme but that was a long time coming. not in the ways i've described myself (where i let things go for a long time then get spontaneously mad at one particular incident and react only to calm down) but in a count of monte cristo oldboy sort of way. the first time you messed up they already decided you'd do it again and they'd punish you, every time you do it fuel to the fire, and by the time it hits it was a pre-planned thing you were always dancing near.

martian anger isn't like this, it's sudden and however intense it's generally over quickly. it doesn't have the same effect. it's the kid throwing a tantrum when they didn't get the thing they want rather than the one who finds your credit card and buys it. it's all right in front of you and laid out. even if it was a while coming it may surprise them as much as you when it happens. it's childlike in a lot of ways, a kid losing their **** and just reacting, this is where martian adults can be when it comes to their feelings.

plutonian anger is more spiteful and brooding, bitter. many plutonic people will willingly stab themselves if it'll go through you too. they'll have it thought through already too (thinking so far ahead like that is not exactly an a martian trait) it's not impulsive, it's more methodical. it's not childlike. so there's the difference

posted July 10, 2023 06:25 AM            

Mars is also the most active planet in my chart conjunct my NN in the 7H.

I have a Scorpio stellium with Pluto on the DSC.

My answer could be a little biased, but I'll give it a go.

Mars anger is quick, destructive, and dynamic.

Pluto anger is slow, destructive, and vengeful.

Both hit hard.. just in different ways.

If mars hits you, you might be hurt for awhile, but you'll live to fight another day.

posted July 20, 2023 05:23 PM            

Pluto is hidden, has a longer-term agenda, and is slow-burn. It is more interested in changing the power dynamic behind a situation seen as disadvantageous or unjust. It is more calculating and strategic. It can keep rage buried until it becomes cancerous and malignant.

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posted October 09, 2023 10:05 PM            

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Originally posted by saronna:
My Pluto is in virgo 6th house. It takes a long time to angry but drive mars Aquarius is in 10th house Capricorn & anger is detached & channel into drive for career anger. I get anger when my internet is slowed down & I have computer problems.

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posted October 10, 2023 10:56 AM            

Pluto, on the other hand, signifies something deeper and possibly a lot more destructive to me - perhaps you could even say the difference between anger (Mars) and downright rage (Pluto.) There's so much happening with Pluto in terms of control, power, destruction/rebirth, transformation .... that Plutonian anger could be a lot more transformative and/or destructive in some way.

I'm not a very Plutonian person. With the exception of a sextile to my natal Moon, my Pluto is otherwise unaspected. But my Pluto is in Libra. Ten times out of ten, when I really start getting in touch with (sometimes legit) outrage at someone who has really harmed me, I almost immediately self-mitigate it with "but, but, but". But they had a lot of childhood trauma. But they were having a bad day. And so on and so forth. I've often wondered if that tendency I have to immediately "see their side" comes from that Libra placement of Pluto.

posted October 10, 2023 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by rainbownsideatornado:
Ten times out of ten, when I really start getting in touch with (sometimes legit) outrage at someone who has really harmed me, I almost immediately self-mitigate it with "but, but, but". But they had a lot of childhood trauma. But they were having a bad day. And so on and so forth. I've often wondered if that tendency I have to immediately "see their side" comes from that Libra placement of Pluto.

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I do this, too, most of the time. I've had people give me the same sort of grace at times, too.

I have experienced real rage, as well, though. Due to personal circumstances that involved things I just don't want to get into today. Pluto square Ceres/Chiron/Sun, square Mercury. Sun progressed into Gemini in the 8th house. Mars progressed to oppose Pluto.