posted October 08, 2022 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I have a friend who had an affair, when there was trouble in her marriage. She was extremely attracted to this guy, until they were actually together, and he was a dick. She didn’t like some of his habits, either. I don’t know her chart.

I’m not in your life, experiencing this as it happens, but some of that feeling can just be the forbidden part.

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I hear what you’re saying and I’m guilty of having affairs when it’s been trouble in paradise but this is different!
This is physical agony and me not being able to do anything about it, which contradicts my previous behaviors.
We have ALOT of Pluto (me being Pluto) in our charts and we also have a lot of Pluto in our natal charts so I think it’s a Pluto-thing but something is stopping us from acting on that, which is good I suppose. Before I got married I swore that I would end my juvenile BS and I intend on sticking to that.

posted October 08, 2022 06:48 PM            

Like most outer planets, it mattered until it didn’t. Karmic convenience.

posted October 15, 2022 12:00 AM            

The synastry I have with someone we have Pluto synastry going both ways.

Mars(him) trine pluto/lilith/moon(me)
Pluto(him) square Mars(me)

I have known the person about 8 years. I am trying to figure what is going on. Does he like me because he has a wife stealing festish? Is he a good guy or a bad guy? Can I trust him? What do I want? What does he want?

I have spent so much time thinking about this. To the point where I am just like, I need to appreciate my life, and live it to the fullest and if it happens it happens.

posted October 17, 2022 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
It really feels that the outer planets come with that compulsive pull to them but it’s the inner planets that ground a relationship. I’d check the forbidden fruit asteroids out of curiosity.

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posted October 17, 2022 01:12 PM            

Nabokov-7232- guilty pleasure, Ill-gotten gains,forbidden fruit.

Pandora-55- well you know the story.She got more than she bargained for.

Lilith-h13 and the others possibly as well-She has been referred to as a home wrecker.

Priapus- true is opposite h13- the need to merge could be so great despite rational limitations.

Desiderata-344- desire, what is desirable,

Dulcina -571- searching for an ideal ..one which may not be there. Don Quixotes ideal.

Don Quixote -3552-he constantly pursued Dulcina in the book. She was his idealization.

Beatrix-83- Dante also idealized her despite never actually meeting until his decent. She was his muse.

Nessus-he has been labeled as the abuser. But look at the story. He wanted and tried to take what belonged to Hercules even though it was forbidden to him. This asteroid orbits between Saturn and Pluto and I’d say that’s very telling of the energy it emits.

posted October 18, 2022 03:11 AM            

I have not had a full on affair. Though lines have been a bit blurred. You know what I think is (at least for me) keeping me from this one is that we all have so many mutual friend's my husband included. Though we haven't gone there...per say....I can tell that people are judging me... Who have no idea how my husband has starved me of sex in my late 20's and refuses to communicate intimacy as an adult. Yeah so toxic to have an affair where all the mutual friends feel like they need to take a side regardless. And like how do I trust someone disrespecting my husband as if they respect me?
The way I have obsessed over this person, been paranoid, how I feel like I keep getting signs. Don't be opposed to getting to know this person better. It does not need to be intimate romantic, etc. I really think I am suppose to learn something here. With how hot and intuitive this guy is, that scares me. How do you say no, what can they get me to do, what would I let them get away with.

While I think I should keep an open mind of why me and that person are suddenly drawn to each other more than ever in the past....

The horrible reality is that I am so emotionally checked out of my marriage. I knew I was since at least the end of last year....it's really bad right now. The worst it's ever been with how checked out emotionally I've been. Kind of with multiple people actually. I only have a few ***** left....the fact that I keep thinking of other people and realizing how bad I want this person and care less about consequences gives me this little oomph left that makes me want to pick fights a little....the very small part of me that's left that thinks me being loyal to him is worth fighting for.

posted October 18, 2022 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
I believe there has been reference to them on the forum in the past.

Nabokov-7232- guilty pleasure, Ill-gotten gains,forbidden fruit.

Pandora-55- well you know the story.She got more than she bargained for.

Lilith-h13 and the others possibly as well-She has been referred to as a home wrecker.

Priapus- true is opposite h13- the need to merge could be so great despite rational limitations.

Desiderata-344- desire, what is desirable,

Dulcina -571- searching for an ideal ..one which may not be there. Don Quixotes ideal.

Don Quixote -3552-he constantly pursued Dulcina in the book. She was his idealization.

Beatrix-83- Dante also idealized her despite never actually meeting until his decent. She was his muse.

Nessus-he has been labeled as the abuser. But look at the story. He wanted and tried to take what belonged to Hercules even though it was forbidden to him. This asteroid orbits between Saturn and Pluto and I’d say that’s very telling of the energy it emits.

Zeus- though not exactly forbidden to the leader of the gods, Zeus indulged in his conquests. Taking what he couldn’t charm out of his suiters. Always at their expense due to the rage of his jealous wife (Hera/Juno).

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Thank you!!

posted October 18, 2022 04:15 AM            

I’m hard core ragging over here too.

Create a thread and throw up some charts.

If you want to talk out your dilemma, you have company.

Im new to posting but I’ve learned so much from your posts over the years that I’d love to return a helpful hand.

posted October 18, 2022 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
I wonder if there is a mythological counterpart to Lilith (h13—apogee). Like Chiron-Chariklo. The perigee is referred to as Priapus (h22).. though this point is exactly opposite in the zodiac wheel http://mysticmedusa.com/planets-in-astrology/priapus-liliths-male-counterpart/

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When it comes to Lilith in all her forms, there is much confusion and debate. Which calculated point one should use and what version of Lilith you are getting. There are many debates and theories differing between the phases of Lilith position of scorned in relation.

I personally, enjoy being as objective as possible. I will look and keep an eye on them all. Sure, it doesn’t hurt.

But I have found myself primarily using h13. Due to the Calculation and the fact that it resonates.

The mean Lilith being calculated in a not as accurate sum total.

So sure i always pay attention to mean priapus h22
It’s conjunct my asteroid karma and that’s very interesting.
But in light of mean vs true, I tend to favor true
I may be wrong…as this subject does get blurry
But I’d believe true priapus would be the polarity point of h13.
On another note
I’ve also read asmodius as also being a lover to Lilith.
Being the demon of lust and all, I can see how they could fit
But as far as a natural pair I still feel it’s all about Lilith h13 and it’s opposition as Lilith and priapus.

If anyone has any input on these I’d love to hear.

Vansio- thank you for the great article.
I never read about priapus being the first scarecrow.
It made me giggle to think of a lawn gnome with a giant priapus lol.
I’ll never think of scarecrows the same either lol.

posted October 19, 2022 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
Hey star,

I’m hard core ragging over here too.

Create a thread and throw up some charts.

If you want to talk out your dilemma, you have company.

Im new to posting but I’ve learned so much from your posts over the years that I’d love to return a helpful hand.

Or at least an ear to talk to.

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posted October 19, 2022 02:04 AM            

My husband and I have Lilith(me) conjunct Pluto(husband)

This "bad guy's" Mars trines my Lilith/Pluto. And with out knowing his exact time his Lilith trines my Pluto/Lilith. And it would make a lot of sense for his Lilith to trine his Mars.

Another guy who I was super attracted to his Lilith trines my Pluto.

posted October 19, 2022 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Oh yes Lilith is very important and powerful in male bonds it seems.

My husband and I have Lilith(me) conjunct Pluto(husband)

This "bad guy's" Mars trines my Lilith/Pluto. And with out knowing his exact time his Lilith trines my Pluto/Lilith. And it would make a lot of sense for his Lilith to trine his Mars.

Another guy who I was super attracted to his Lilith trines my Pluto.

The things I want to do to these men. My friend joked to me that I could write steamy novels.

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You are welcome ❤️

Oh snap you have Lilith conjunct Pluto?
I’ve always wondered about this energy.

I have bml conjunct My sun and widely my Mc.
It’s in Pisces though..it trines my mars in Scorpio.
I feel it tends to rub people the wrong way.
At least at first because I come off a bit intense.

I’ve noticed public figures that have their Venus opposite my bml grab my attention.

The two that come to mind the most also have Pluto opposite their bml in their natal and it squares my ascendant.

I seem to be drawn to Virgo Venus’.
My sons a Virgo Venus/mars and it’s conjunct my asteroid karma. Lol

But yeah, blm is one I feel in men too.
Alexander skarsgards one of the guys I mentioned.
Damn, there’s something about that man.
Especially, as Eric Northman. 😍

And Scorpio 75’s are my kryptonite. Lol

Anything stand out when someone’s ascendant squares your Pluto/bml?
Lol curious if I’d ever have a chance with that hunky Viking?. 😂

posted October 20, 2022 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
You are welcome ❤️

Oh snap you have Lilith conjunct Pluto?
I’ve always wondered about this energy.

I have bml conjunct My sun and widely my Mc.
It’s in Pisces though..it trines my mars in Scorpio.
I feel it tends to rub people the wrong way.
At least at first because I come off a bit intense.

I’ve noticed public figures that have their Venus opposite my bml grab my attention.

The two that come to mind the most also have Pluto opposite their bml in their natal and it squares my ascendant.

I seem to be drawn to Virgo Venus’.
My sons a Virgo Venus/mars and it’s conjunct my asteroid karma. Lol

But yeah, blm is one I feel in men too.
Alexander skarsgards one of the guys I mentioned.
Damn, there’s something about that man.
Especially, as Eric Northman. 😍

And Scorpio 75’s are my kryptonite. Lol

Anything stand out when someone’s ascendant squares your Pluto/bml?
Lol curious if I’d ever have a chance with that hunky Viking?. 😂

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Yes!! I have BML in Scorpio 17.46 degrees and Pluto in Scorpio 17.04 and Scorpio Moon 18.56 degrees.

Very cool that you have strong Lilith energy too.

Yes, Idk if I'm all that special...but I can seem to instantly come off as a threat to certain people. But other people on here have noticed too when I share my stories. Like women being triggered that I dress feminine. Being triggered that I am wearing a Barret on my head. Or just instantly snotting me out because I don't look like them/act like them, and I can give men a raging boner too.

Cool what degree is your Lilith Pisces? I really seem to like this placement in others.

I can't think of anyone who has Lilith in Virgo! I bet they can give some killer insults, and it would amuse me. But then maybe my Venus Pisces could not handle it.

My husband actually has Lilith oppose my Chiron. It's not fun...but with other good synastry we can work past it.

I love Venus Virgos. My husband has this, my mom has this, childhood friends, HS crushes, my precious little nephew!

Aww that's great about your son. That sounds like very good karma indeed! <3

I've paid a little bit attention to Lilith in celebrities. I don't have a ragging crush on Seth McFarlane but I think I love his humor so much because his Lilith conjuncts my Neptune Capricorn in my 8th house.

Rob Lowe is a total hot heart throb. I think his Lilith in Scorpio conjuncts my asteroid Valentine. Sextiles my Neptune. Squares my nodes, and MC/IC.

Ohhh my Gosh Michael Shannon has Lilith conjunct my Mars, sextile my Sun, squares my Juno.

Hmm I haven't paid too much attention to people with Leo and Aquarius ASC who would square this. I do know one Aquarius rising though. IDR what degree, I can be civil...but she totally irks me. She's doing her best though, for how she was raised and conditioned.

LOL Viking!? How did you KNOW!? Yeah my last two obsessions have been with men who have some kind of Scandinavian decent. They do kind of give off that "I wanna steal you from your man" sexual tension.

posted October 20, 2022 02:55 AM            

So then, this person has to see this Scorpio 17 degree Pluto Lilith Power couple.(my husband and I) I could see this being very triggering. This guy doesn't know our dirty laundry. We only see him at parties and large group hang outs a few times a year. I don't post my drama on FB with my SO. Just seeing two people who met at a party build a life together. The rest of our friends have not had the same luck yet.
So it makes sense that someone would be deeply triggered by us.
This guy also got into a relationship about a year after us. They lasted about 4 years. So like whatever he is going though then me and my husband are all like "look what we did!" I also think their break up was around the same time my husband and I got engaged. That's got to be triggering. I've been there having to hear about engagements when I've been dumped in the past.

While I enjoyed it for the most part...I felt like this person exploited me for going through a very difficult time with my husband. Though I did not really give much away this person is pretty intuitive. Though I must take accountability too, I felt taken advantage of.

I feel like part of his ulterior motives was to tear down our marriage. Stick it to my husband, stick it to me. Stick it to matrimony.

And we are both hurt, and hurt people hurt people. His FWB ex is fighting tooth and nail for him. I see it. I decided last night that I don't want to be in the mix of that. I have remorse, I feel so uncomfortable around her, after he puts the moves on me in the other room. She's a Cancer, so she isn't stupid. lol

Sometimes I wonder if I was a tool for him to get back at her. Because while they are FWB she was on the lap of some other guy that night. Sometimes I wonder if he wanted to show that she is replicable or something? Teach her a lesson.

Not to dismiss that we have an undeniable attraction, and are like minded in some ways.

Just hit me really hard about how many people this would hurt. How toxic this would make the dynamic.

This guy is like the final boss of men who tempt me, I swear to God. lol

posted October 20, 2022 05:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Yes!! I have BML in Scorpio 17.46 degrees and Pluto in Scorpio 17.04 and Scorpio Moon 18.56 degrees.

Very cool that you have strong Lilith energy too.

Yes, Idk if I'm all that special...but I can seem to instantly come off as a threat to certain people. But other people on here have noticed too when I share my stories. Like women being triggered that I dress feminine. Being triggered that I am wearing a Barret on my head. Or just instantly snotting me out because I don't look like them/act like them, and I can give men a raging boner too.

Cool what degree is your Lilith Pisces? I really seem to like this placement in others.

I can't think of anyone who has Lilith in Virgo! I bet they can give some killer insults, and it would amuse me. But then maybe my Venus Pisces could not handle it.

My husband actually has Lilith oppose my Chiron. It's not fun...but with other good synastry we can work past it.

I love Venus Virgos. My husband has this, my mom has this, childhood friends, HS crushes, my precious little nephew!

Aww that's great about your son. That sounds like very good karma indeed! <3

I've paid a little bit attention to Lilith in celebrities. I don't have a ragging crush on Seth McFarlane but I think I love his humor so much because his Lilith conjuncts my Neptune Capricorn in my 8th house.

Rob Lowe is a total hot heart throb. I think his Lilith in Scorpio conjuncts my asteroid Valentine. Sextiles my Neptune. Squares my nodes, and MC/IC.

Ohhh my Gosh Michael Shannon has Lilith conjunct my Mars, sextile my Sun, squares my Juno.

Hmm I haven't paid too much attention to people with Leo and Aquarius ASC who would square this. I do know one Aquarius rising though. IDR what degree, I can be civil...but she totally irks me. She's doing her best though, for how she was raised and conditioned.

LOL Viking!? How did you KNOW!? Yeah my last two obsessions have been with men who have some kind of Scandinavian decent. They do kind of give off that "I wanna steal you from your man" sexual tension.

Oh man I am going to reply to that very soon. ...!!!...in a different response her...!!!...!!...lol!

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Haaa…so your true priapus is sitting on transiting Uranus right now! Lol 😆😉😊😁

Having a prominent bml attracts a lot of that “mean girl” energy for sure. Since mine is conjunct the Mc, I get more women casting shade at me in places of work.

For instance, right now I’m a stay at home mom. My son has been attending pre-k since march 2021. This year I am treasurer of the pta. I’ve noticed that I have an amazing vibe with my co council members and people I directly work with (parents/teachers) but the people I am ambiently working around, tend to cast me out and almost try and exclude me from their click. In this instance it’s the administrators. We interact for short get-to-the-point moments, just enough to settle times for events and such.There’s numerous times already this year where they’ve acted entitled and almost like degraded the things we do. One second it’s thanks the next it’s not enough. They placed a teacher in the council and they make it to where she can’t help us. It’s almost underhanded some of the instances. It really baffles me as We are on their team. There was an office lady that left because they drove her out last year. On the last day she approached me, gave me a hug, thanked me, told me why she was leaving (them being mean girls) and encouraged me to stand up and not let them walk all over me. Since then, I’m in the main leadership of our council and they’ve started treating me the same way, using a lot of the same tactics she warned me of.

In the past,there have been some people I indirectly worked with…like someone who worked a different shift. Who would kinda approach me like that from time to time in passing. Like mean passive girl remarks or if I worked with them for a short time during a transition, They would try and exclude me.

Thankfully, I don’t play into the mean girl game.

Something about having a bml/sun by your Mc on one side and mercury/ceres on the other, I can usually use my couth and strong sense of self to kinda pouf away the b**ch cloud until they Back off and see I’m not an enemy.

My bml is 25 Pisces.
Sun 23 Pisces
Mc 22 Pisces
Mercury/ceres 28

Lol I bet a Lilith in virgo could be very cunning.😆

🤔come to think of it..it’s almost a mean girl archetype.
Picking people apart would be a specialty for someone that detail orientated who was threatened.

My Pisces placements and Venus in Aquarius hates excluding people. I just hate the superficial injustice of clicks.

I was always friends with people all over high school..it didn’t really matter what scene they were in.

My interests and friends have always kind of reflected that.

Venus in Aquarius doesn’t like to be defined. 😁

Lilith opposite Chiron…
So priapus conjunct Chiron too.
I’d think there’s a waxing and waning effect with that one.
Being that priapus is a bit of a submission point. At least in regards to Lilith energy.

I love my Venus in virgos ❤️❤️❤️.I also love Venus 10th housers too.

But I suppose it’s only when it’s bounding off my ic (22 Virgo)or valentine (2 Virgo), karma is a bit of a crapshoot (17 Virgo). Karma is rx but conjunct fortuna and mean priapus. This area in Draco hits my tropical asc. Lmao

True priapus at 25 Virgo and ic 22 are hotspots.

When I was first getting into delineation I found it easier to observe public figure charts than personal. It helped me keep objective.

I’ve noticed a bit of a pattern with the Virgo Venus in that area near my ic and priapus. It’s like a twitch reaction to something I really dig about their craft or vibe or whatever. I’ll look up their data and voilà.

With Virgo on the ic.
The ic ruled by mercury.
And mercury in Pisces.
This probably lends to my affinity.
Especially when aspecting a Virgo Venus.
There’s an opposition but the rulership kinda bridges the gap and makes it more of a team player.
At least in my experiences .
That’s not to say that an accompanying asteroids couldn’t ruin it all. Because it has on occasion.

Most potent were the ones with:
Virgo Venus on my priapus.
Their bml Libra quindicileing it.
It forms a dw Lilith/priapus quindecile with my 25 Pisces
They have Pluto conjunct their priapus .
The Pluto/priapus squares my asc/desc
My descendant conjunct my Jupiter,reiki,king
I’ve kinda pinpointed it due to a few case points.

You know when you seem to pinpoint a certain time frame of individuals ,who were born within a certain proximity of each other but there is a bit generational gap between you and them…it’s kinda easy to notice after a bit.

You know there’s something raw and sexy about the whole Viking/skandanavian/nord thing.

I must admit I love the topic

I can’t wait to see your post!

posted October 21, 2022 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
Haaa…so your true priapus is sitting on transiting Uranus right now! Lol 😆😉😊😁

Having a prominent bml attracts a lot of that “mean girl” energy for sure. Since mine is conjunct the Mc, I get more women casting shade at me in places of work.

For instance, right now I’m a stay at home mom. My son has been attending pre-k since march 2021. This year I am treasurer of the pta. I’ve noticed that I have an amazing vibe with my co council members and people I directly work with (parents/teachers) but the people I am ambiently working around, tend to cast me out and almost try and exclude me from their click. In this instance it’s the administrators. We interact for short get-to-the-point moments, just enough to settle times for events and such.There’s numerous times already this year where they’ve acted entitled and almost like degraded the things we do. One second it’s thanks the next it’s not enough. They placed a teacher in the council and they make it to where she can’t help us. It’s almost underhanded some of the instances. It really baffles me as We are on their team. There was an office lady that left because they drove her out last year. On the last day she approached me, gave me a hug, thanked me, told me why she was leaving (them being mean girls) and encouraged me to stand up and not let them walk all over me. Since then, I’m in the main leadership of our council and they’ve started treating me the same way, using a lot of the same tactics she warned me of.

In the past,there have been some people I indirectly worked with…like someone who worked a different shift. Who would kinda approach me like that from time to time in passing. Like mean passive girl remarks or if I worked with them for a short time during a transition, They would try and exclude me.

Thankfully, I don’t play into the mean girl game.

Something about having a bml/sun by your Mc on one side and mercury/ceres on the other, I can usually use my couth and strong sense of self to kinda pouf away the b**ch cloud until they Back off and see I’m not an enemy.

My bml is 25 Pisces.
Sun 23 Pisces
Mc 22 Pisces
Mercury/ceres 28

Lol I bet a Lilith in virgo could be very cunning.😆

🤔come to think of it..it’s almost a mean girl archetype.
Picking people apart would be a specialty for someone that detail orientated who was threatened.

My Pisces placements and Venus in Aquarius hates excluding people. I just hate the superficial injustice of clicks.

I was always friends with people all over high school..it didn’t really matter what scene they were in.

My interests and friends have always kind of reflected that.

Venus in Aquarius doesn’t like to be defined. 😁

Lilith opposite Chiron…
So priapus conjunct Chiron too.
I’d think there’s a waxing and waning effect with that one.
Being that priapus is a bit of a submission point. At least in regards to Lilith energy.

I love my Venus in virgos ❤️❤️❤️.I also love Venus 10th housers too.

But I suppose it’s only when it’s bounding off my ic (22 Virgo)or valentine (2 Virgo), karma is a bit of a crapshoot (17 Virgo). Karma is rx but conjunct fortuna and mean priapus. This area in Draco hits my tropical asc. Lmao

True priapus at 25 Virgo and ic 22 are hotspots.

When I was first getting into delineation I found it easier to observe public figure charts than personal. It helped me keep objective.

I’ve noticed a bit of a pattern with the Virgo Venus in that area near my ic and priapus. It’s like a twitch reaction to something I really dig about their craft or vibe or whatever. I’ll look up their data and voilà.

With Virgo on the ic.
The ic ruled by mercury.
And mercury in Pisces.
This probably lends to my affinity.
Especially when aspecting a Virgo Venus.
There’s an opposition but the rulership kinda bridges the gap and makes it more of a team player.
At least in my experiences .
That’s not to say that an accompanying asteroids couldn’t ruin it all. Because it has on occasion.

Most potent were the ones with:
Virgo Venus on my priapus.
Their bml Libra quindicileing it.
It forms a dw Lilith/priapus quindecile with my 25 Pisces
They have Pluto conjunct their priapus .
The Pluto/priapus squares my asc/desc
My descendant conjunct my Jupiter,reiki,king
I’ve kinda pinpointed it due to a few case points.

You know when you seem to pinpoint a certain time frame of individuals ,who were born within a certain proximity of each other but there is a bit generational gap between you and them…it’s kinda easy to notice after a bit.

You know there’s something raw and sexy about the whole Viking/skandanavian/nord thing.

I must admit I love the topic

I can’t wait to see your post!

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Oh God what does priapus mean!? lol

OMG Lilith squares my MC too! I've had harmonious times at work. But yes experiencing Neptune transit 10th house square ASC and then having the Pluto square Sun overlap...I have really seen the ugly side of other women. Condescendence's, being told I'm crazy for wearing something, "only YOU could pull that off" being just blatantly stared at, people acting like they are my supervisor when we have the same job titled, people who work under me acting like they are my supervisor because they got 20 years on me, my chaotic boss and her micromanaging, even my nicer co-workers have been passive aggressive. "I don't know how you're wearing that" "I wear clothes that are CoMphTerBle" "I wear shoes that are CoMfoRTaBLE" "TEACHERS aren't suppose to fashionable"

Preschool mom's can be so beeeotchy to each other! Usually it can be the working moms vs stay at home moms. But not always. My sister but her oldest in co-op preschool. She was the working mom.
That's good that the lady who left gave you good advice to deal with the bi-tches.

All your Pisces stuff makes great aspects to my 24 degree Saturn Capricorn. And my Scorpio cluster.

You love Venus 10th housers??? I have Venus in house 10. Teehee!

Aww that's an interesting observation about Pisces and Aqua wanting people to feel included. If I exclude someone...and I don't have an issue with them it's simply because we aren't close enough. BUT if someone does p-iss me off excluding can be how I retaliate. I've grown to pride myself on friends from different walks of life. But part of HS I experienced being a total outcast. Saturn oppose Venus transit.

Interesting about priapus! I don't know very much. I think of the fancy stationary store. lol

Oh my gosh the first time I saw my natal chart! Finding out my moon was in Scorpio. I also don't really seem like an Aries, I posted my photos here ages ago...and Aries was like one of the last guesses. I had a psychic tell me I don't seem like an Aries. My Saturn squares it. So my sun sign is a tad dampened.

Oh yeah that one Aquarius rising girl that irked me. Her parents pretty much told her don't worry about being smart, because she is pretty and a man will take care of her...and it hasn't happened yet. I could go on! It's really sad though.

posted October 21, 2022 03:05 AM            

In my case we both have Venus sq Uranus in natal. Venus sq Uranus Synastry. Venus op Uranus in Composite and Venus conj Uranus Drac. I think maybe this might explain the physical agony I explained in first post? When we’re near each other it’s just…so freakin hard being normal. It vibrates :-/ We want SO badly but can’t.

posted October 21, 2022 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Oh God what does priapus mean!? lol

OMG Lilith squares my MC too! I've had harmonious times at work. But yes experiencing Neptune transit 10th house square ASC and then having the Pluto square Sun overlap...I have really seen the ugly side of other women. Condescendence's, being told I'm crazy for wearing something, "only YOU could pull that off" being just blatantly stared at, people acting like they are my supervisor when we have the same job titled, people who work under me acting like they are my supervisor because they got 20 years on me, my chaotic boss and her micromanaging, even my nicer co-workers have been passive aggressive. "I don't know how you're wearing that" "I wear clothes that are CoMphTerBle" "I wear shoes that are CoMfoRTaBLE" "TEACHERS aren't suppose to fashionable"

Preschool mom's can be so beeeotchy to each other! Usually it can be the working moms vs stay at home moms. But not always. My sister but her oldest in co-op preschool. She was the working mom.
That's good that the lady who left gave you good advice to deal with the bi-tches.

All your Pisces stuff makes great aspects to my 24 degree Saturn Capricorn. And my Scorpio cluster.

You love Venus 10th housers??? I have Venus in house 10. Teehee!

Aww that's an interesting observation about Pisces and Aqua wanting people to feel included. If I exclude someone...and I don't have an issue with them it's simply because we aren't close enough. BUT if someone does p-iss me off excluding can be how I retaliate. I've grown to pride myself on friends from different walks of life. But part of HS I experienced being a total outcast. Saturn oppose Venus transit.

Interesting about priapus! I don't know very much. I think of the fancy stationary store. lol

Oh my gosh the first time I saw my natal chart! Finding out my moon was in Scorpio. I also don't really seem like an Aries, I posted my photos here ages ago...and Aries was like one of the last guesses. I had a psychic tell me I don't seem like an Aries. My Saturn squares it. So my sun sign is a tad dampened.

Oh yeah that one Aquarius rising girl that irked me. Her parents pretty much told her don't worry about being smart, because she is pretty and a man will take care of her...and it hasn't happened yet. I could go on! It's really sad though.

I posted above your recent comment.

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Priapus’ energy has been noted as representing a compulsive need to merge. The Phallus being penetrative convergence.

Transiting Uranus conjunct natal true priapus and opposite bml,moon,Pluto .

We would possibly see an instance or instances (slow transit) where your natal bml/moon/Pluto- independently strong emotional and sexual nature is looking for compromise (opposite) with your need to merge (priapus) through sudden extraordinary events (Uranus transit).

Squaring your Mc would possibly have an effect on your life’s mission or public image.

This may be why you are feeling that tension a bit at work. Your seething sexual tension there. Truly it’s squaring the ic/Mc so we are seeing a bit of possibility cause and effect. What isn’t being expressed at home is being carried into your public persona inadvertently.

Especially,the case with it squaring the sun in the 10th. The sexual tension you are expressing is being hit by transiting Neptune causing confusion as to why you are being perceived in this way. Double that with the square of Neptune to the ascendant.

With the Pisces mc and transiting Neptune over it and your possible cancer ascendant? You are possibly coming off very neptunian and watery …This may be why you have work colleagues who are equals treating you like you are Naïve and also possibly why they believe why you are able to get away with it.

My son is on the spectrum and attends public pre-k at an elementary school. They provide programs for early start for children who need extra time to develop social skills. It has been an amazing experience and his teacher is one of the most amazing people I have ever met. My sons been in his class since march of 2021. So by the time he goes into kinder, we would have spent just over two years with him. We’ve become good friends and he is incredible with my son. I am so thankful!

Because my son is in a smaller class of 8 ,there really aren’t a whole lot of moms around. To be honest most of the parents in his class are not super involved. Because they bus many in from surrounding areas, you don’t meet all of them or see them regularly. Some are not English speaking, and work. So when you do see them on occasion, they aren’t really looking to connect with other parents.

Three of the children in his class are typical peers. Being a special needs class intending to work on social skills, they provide typical peers to lead by example. This is great in theory but because this is a full time pre-k and free , the school just uses it as a full time daycare for teachers kids. Because they use this program in such a way I can see some issues. Not all typical children are the best candidates for this. You need to keep in mind that they are being examples for children who have various social and possibly emotional hardships with adapting. And if the typical peer is a child that needs more reassurance this may not be a healthy environment for them. Inadvertently, these children do not fully understand that the other children have hardships, it may just feel like social rejection. Then on the other hand you have the three typical peer children. All of whom are teachers children and they pack around. So inadvertently you tend to see some clicking around and on occasion exclusion of the children they are there to help assimilate. Thankfully, my sons teacher is amazing and I trust that he is on top of being inclusive with everyone.

Needless to say though, looking behind the curtain makes you see things you’d rather not.

The primary tension concerning working vs stay at home has been with the administrators. Their lack of respect for our time. You can tell there is a general lack of respect too.

What they do not know is that: I am an older mom who had my first child in my thirties, i have worked my whole life until that point. Working extra hard to be able to stay home was a goal. One me and my husband purposely made because we valued that. That I’ve known my husband since I was 16, together since 20 and married 10 years before we even had a child together. We purposely waited to be stable and provide this because it was something we wanted and valued. The fact that our son needed to attend school early to help him develop was not planned. It’s a sacrifice in a way because I love spending time with him but because he needs this , I come into the school to be a support to our community. I successfully ran my household , career and my own schooling for years. I accomplished my goals and am enjoying the fruits of my labor.

I understand that this isn’t the most common scenario…and the fact I’m showing up all relaxed in my leggings and a bit homely after 2 years of Covid hibernation. So what I think it is… is they are judging me superficially . The fact that I’m not super kept and not working makes them believe I am an unmotivated person. Where in fact I’ve settled into a very comfortable and practical time in life where driving a fancy car, using expensive purses and getting regular spa treatments aren’t really a priority. I can have all those things. I have and do on occasion. When you are moming full time it’s really not necessary. Plus having a child with special needs makes you more conscious of preserving your resources. Knowing that you may need to provide them security for when you won’t be there.

The lady that left knew they were judging me when she left. She was their secretary so she knew their feelings and judgments towards me. Probably making comments on my practical marvel comic crossbody and not so fresh pedicure. It’s easy to see in hindsight. She mentioned something about pedicures and fancy purses ..and how she was able to do those things too but was down to earth as well. She was comparing me and her. In hindsight she was warning me of their superficial judgments they were casting on me and acknowledging she knew that I was happy with myself and I should be. Just because I don’t doesn’t mean I can’t.

I suppose you see this in the upper ranks of all systems. Especially with women. There is this unnecessary need to compete to be at the top. I don’t really view life this way as productive.

I have a cancer ascendant with moon in the 2nd house Leo.

Funny how this fits into the whole scenario. Me being a public mom (cancer ascendant)and their judgments of me. How their judgments are projected at my image (ascendant)as a mom (moon) superficially (Leo)as if it defines my self worth(2nd). To essentially degrade my feelings (moon) or self worth (2nd).

It would be a Leo trap to allow myself to become defensive or try to prove that’s not the case. I need to be steady and know my worthiness…others perceptions of my worth are irrelevant. I know what I need to do for my family. The superficialities of life are nice and all but they do not increase the value of my richness in life itself ,love or the things I truly value.

To play into it would only suffice my ego and nothing else.

Yes, that totally make sense ❤️. I also love Virgo in the10th and how productive they are.

I believe everyone has their own approach to outsiders. Personally,I do hate excluding people. But also being very Pisces oriented I too need to learn to be more discerning of people. Having cancer ascendant and ceres/mercury Pisces makes me a huge magnet for those looking for help. My mercury/ceres has great intentions but on the contrary can enable people unintentionally.

Sometimes people need to handle their own tensions in life to grow.

Your prominent water definitely seems to overshadow your fire sun. People would probably be very shocked when they push you to find you spit fire back. Lol

Poor child..having parents trying to define her at such a young age.

I can relate as my parents also tried to raise me thinking my worth was the result of someone else.
Boy were they wrong.. my husband credits me for being the catalyst of growth he needed to become the man he is. He’s so incredibly thankful and appreciative. It baffles people who still wonder exactly what it is that I am doing to get so much praise and appreciation from him.