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Topic: Men who would want a housewife
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6171 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted January 25, 2023 10:16 PM
What placements or aspects in a man's chart would indicate he would want a housewife? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 170775 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2023 05:05 PM
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 6718 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2023 05:31 PM
I don't know if that is what they wanted, but those men I know who ended up with housewives had Cancer and/or Taurus placements.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 834 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 27, 2023 02:20 AM
There are different reasons why someone would want their wife to stay at home: 1) religion/tradition, 2) status, 3) power dynamics and 4) practicality. The first one, it depends on the family someone is born in and not so much the chart. But it would probably help if someone has Saturn/Capricorn involved. For the second one, some men want their wife to stay at home because it shows off how much money they make. Not anyone can afford it. So maybe a prominent Jupiter or in aspect to Moon. The third one, isn’t a very nice one. There are enough stories about narcissists that completely isolate someone from their friends and family to gain control. Financial dependency is usually one of the first steps. I would say a prominent Pluto/Saturn, and/or in harsh aspect to Venus/Moon. The last one is dependent on personal circumstances like a sick relative or child, a job that requires lots of travel, lots of (unpaid) work related to the home (like a farm), and so on. Maybe something going on in the 6th house (disease/work) and maybe the 9th house/Jupiter (travel). IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10226 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 27, 2023 02:56 AM
Interesting take PlutoWasHereI think the desire for clear boundaries that are about the balancing of extreme two worlds? One which is inner(Moon)& outer (Sun)? I do see Saturn as probable here. Due to the fact that Sat likes clearly defined lines of who does what. And how the two shouldn't overlap etc. Perhaps Cancer/Cap or Moon/Sat opposition emphasized in the chart? I find these two polarities (out of all) represent the extreme polar opposite energies of status focus(Cap) vs. home or domestic attention (Can). IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24133 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2023 09:45 AM
One guy I've followed online, but will probably stop soon, was in a long-term relationship with a woman in his field of entertainment. They were dating, for several years, then moved in together in 2018, when they moved back to his area (southern california). She didn't want to stay there, she was there for business, and him. She was already self-sufficient, but her career really started to take off, and he got insecure. Before they moved, he had told people that they would probably be getting married, if it weren't for something else that I can't remember. She had said separately, no marriage, and no children, at least not for years. They broke up later that year, when she joined a company, and it was because of his insecurities. She felt like she couldn't celebrate her successes. They didn't cut contact, ended up getting back together. They broke up again, just as the pandemic started, and it was what he wanted, not her. She had just made another big career move that she wasn't sure about (it ended up being good for her). In 2021, they got back together, but he dealt with some public stuff that wasn't good. She did, too, but because she is loved by so many people, and made a huge mistake, she recovered, but it took a while. She wasn't doing well. At this point, she was also a co-owner of the company she'd joined. They broke up for the last time. She is now with someone else, but they're keeping it quiet. It's like a known secret among people who follow them. He makes a lot of money, discussing politics and anything else in the news. She is the happiest she's ever been. She's a cappy with a lot of saggie, some Aquarius and Virgo. She loves her work, and since she's been with this guy, and spent more time with friends, she has a proper work-life balance. Ex-boyfriend is a Libra with a Cancer Moon, and he has been talking about wanting a family. He's going through his saturn return, and there's nothing wrong with wanting a family. the one thing that bothers me, is that he's looking more and more alt-right. The other day, he shared something about women getting a lot less fertile after the age of thirty, which has nothing to do with him, because he's a man. He keeps sharing things from questionable sources, and it's obvious that he wants a housewife. He wants to be the successful one. He said he was raised in religion, and has been getting back into it, over the past year. Sun Libra 15°30'27 in house 10 direct Moon Cancer 15°12'33 in house 7 direct Mercury Scorpio 9°49'12 in house 11 direct Venus Virgo 21°04'31 in house 9 direct Mars Scorpio 7°57'11 in house 11 direct Jupiter Libra 22°57'43 in house 10 direct Saturn Aquarius 23°56'58 in house 2 retrograde Uranus Capricorn 18°16'55 in house 1 direct Neptune Capricorn 18°23'47 in house 1 direct Pluto Scorpio 23°55'07 in house 11 direct True Node Sagittarius 4°10'37 in house 12 direct
I don't know his birth time, so the moon isn't exact. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10226 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 01, 2023 02:35 PM
@ teasel I'd be concerned about that Neptune/Uranus conj that is square his Sun/Jupiter. This is someone who is fixated on ideals. And these ideals can suddenly change i.e. he may decide he wants something. Be fixated on it. Then suddenly the interest in that wanted thing has waned. Then he wants something else. Always the chase for that ideal that remains illusive. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 834 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted February 01, 2023 04:34 PM
I noticed a tight square between Libra Sun and Cancer Moon. That seems to match the idea of tension between Sun and Moon that Aries23Degrees mentioned. And the square between Scorpio Pluto and Aquarius Saturn also seems to suggest there might be some control issues regarding social status.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 1375 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2023 05:23 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10226 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2023 02:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by BlueRoamer: Penis placed between legs
🤣🤣. Yes. That too IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 170775 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2023 03:27 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 170775 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2023 09:59 AM
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2096 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 01, 2023 11:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by BlueRoamer: Penis placed between legs
There’re many men nowadays who go after women with good income. And many men who say they will provide for you eventually use it as a weapon against you. I’ve seen it many times. I saw men who wanted to be a provider, but I’ve never seen anybody who would be honest and fair with that intention and don’t play a game with it.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 170775 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2023 06:44 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15678 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 14, 2023 12:00 AM
I am a woman and I have venus conjunct mars in the 8th house and I would not mind having a husband who is a stay at home dad who cooks for me, I suppose ideally he would also try to make some passive income investing on stocks while he is at it. However, he would need to be open to having kids and be a stay at home dad type of thing. IP: Logged |
Amoranthaniela Knowflake Posts: 330 From: europe Registered: Dec 2020
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posted March 14, 2023 09:48 AM
A naturally occurring stay-at-home wife, and bread-winning husband is fine. (and naturally occurring stay at home husband etc) However, when this is not the natural way of being of either of the partners, and one of them starts using manipulations or demanding the other be a stay at home anything and give up everything they used to be for their partner, that's a huge red flag and a power/insecurity issue.
Being influenced to give up one's autonomy or ability to earn for themselves, especially if it's to allow yourself to mold into the image your partner desires, is not going to be a happy or healthy relationship and will have terrible problems down the road. It's usually due to Cancer/Capricorn aspects especially when one or both are badly aspected. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15678 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 15, 2023 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Amoranthaniela: A naturally occurring stay-at-home wife, and bread-winning husband is fine. (and naturally occurring stay at home husband etc) However, when this is not the natural way of being of either of the partners, and one of them starts using manipulations or demanding the other be a stay at home anything and give up everything they used to be for their partner, that's a huge red flag and a power/insecurity issue.
Being influenced to give up one's autonomy or ability to earn for themselves, especially if it's to allow yourself to mold into the image your partner desires, is not going to be a happy or healthy relationship and will have terrible problems down the road. It's usually due to Cancer/Capricorn aspects especially when one or both are badly aspected.
I 100% agree with you there for sure! every time a guy tells me they want to make 3 digits so their woman could stay at home if they have kids I tell them well is nice to have the option but I love my career and what I do and I don't see myself ever not working at all and then I think to myself I almost rather the guy be the stay at home dad for us than to give up my career, if I was a mom I would be open to working part time though the first few years and that does sound nice if that is possible. Even when I retire I will probably still work part time, I don't like the idea of not working or earning my own income to some extent at all. Likewise I would not pressure a guy to be a stay at home dad if they love their career etc... IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 15678 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 15, 2023 03:00 PM
I ran into this yesterday and it made me laugh a little too much lol: IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 170775 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 28, 2023 09:17 AM
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 8426 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 28, 2023 09:20 AM
I think also the synastry counts too. One woman might be the mistress, with another is wife material. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1309 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 28, 2023 04:36 PM
My Gemini sun husband.But it can be confusing as well, as he also doesn't like a woman who doesn't have something to do with her own life. He needs excitement and easily gets bored but at the same time he has issue with insecurity and possessiveness. He doesn't want me to take a job/having more time outside with other people and it gives me a frustration time for awhile because in the past the reason I broke up with my Cancer sun ex because he wanted me as a fully housewife and I said I couldn't because I wanted to have my own business but he insisted he wanted me as a fully housewife, so we broke up. During my frustration feeling caged in, my husband gets easily irritated as he starts looking bored with everyday home life. Until I found my way to have a home business and become a stock trader, and his needs of excitement comes from how he gets inspired by what I am doing. He feels more secure with the relationship because I spend almost my whole day time at home and I don't feel like in the caged anymore as I can do what I want to do. Well, I'm just trying to avoid conflict while at the same time I have to find a way to keep myself happy and productive. He also has a cancer mars and a taurus venus. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6718 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 31, 2023 02:19 PM
Lol at some of the anti-housewife comments...I wouldn't have minded being a housewife. I think taking care of your family, especially being there for your children is the most important job you can have. I did not have this privilege because the man I was married to at the time didn't make enough money to allow me to stay home and be a housewife. I enjoyed some of my work, but working is not what it's cracked up to be. I have had too many jobs that came with low pay, drama, stress, manipulation, power imbalance, abuse and heartbreaks, and yes I envied the women who were staying home minding their families. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted March 31, 2023 04:50 PM
My kid's father has a Taurus sun, capricorn moon, cancer mars and he wanted me to be a stay at home mom (albeit I think he just wanted supreme control over me instead of really wanting the "housewife" part). I have a stellium in the 6th and I absolutely can not do that. I needed to keep some of my independence (uranus in the 7th sagittarius) including my own home. I did stay home with our son for a year to breastfeed, but I almost lost my mind having to rely on him for income and went back to work as soon as I could. I have to be physical and moving or I'll fall into a deep depression, staying home that year really took a toll on me and he just couldn't understand it. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1205 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 31, 2023 04:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Lol at some of the anti-housewife comments...I wouldn't have minded being a housewife. I think taking care of your family, especially being there for your children is the most important job you can have. I did not have this privilege because the man I was married to at the time didn't make enough money to allow me to stay home and be a housewife. I enjoyed some of my work, but working is not what it's cracked up to be. I have had too many jobs that came with low pay, drama, stress, manipulation, power imbalance, abuse and heartbreaks, and yes I envied the women who were staying home minding their families.
I didn't see any anti housewife comments per se. It only becomes an issue if the man demands this from his wife and she doesn't want to do it intrinsically. If a woman naturally wants to be a housewife, all power to her. The problem is in my eyes the financial dependence on the husband and that if the marriage doesn't last, many housewives have issues finding a job again since they've been gone from the job market for a long time. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24133 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 31, 2023 05:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: I didn't see any anti housewife comments per se. It only becomes an issue if the man demands this from his wife and she doesn't want to do it intrinsically. If a woman naturally wants to be a housewife, all power to her. The problem is in my eyes the financial dependence on the husband and that if the marriage doesn't last, many housewives have issues finding a job again since they've been gone from the job market for a long time.
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