posted October 15, 2023 07:26 AM            

Im also not so good with expressing myself but i hope u get my thoughts.

posted October 15, 2023 06:13 PM            

But if you're thinking if there's a way to not making them take their revenge, no, there isn't. Revenge is part of life and it's assigned to Scorpio, or Mars/Saturn dominant people. There are cases when only you can make justice to yourself and Mars is in domicile in Scorpio and exalted in the sign of Saturn - Capricorn. So, this exists for a reason and sometimes is needed. Formal justice is not always fair and there are times when someone can be deeply hurt and only by taking their revenge/justice will make them feel whole again.

The thing is... depends on the relationship that involves a Scorpio Sun, or other placements, but I would just stick to Sun/Moon/Rising/Ruler of the ASC... the other parts of the chart most often relate to other people in ur life.

If you don't have Sun/Moon/Rising or ruler in Scorpio, then you can deal with it by understanding that's who they are. If something bad happens, they will be there for you or against you. They are very loyal. Even to the plan of revenge that they have. It could take years before seeing it. You can't really tell what's up with them if you don't match the energy in some way because they are very secretive and they build up feelings until they trust you to tell you, and being a Leo it's in a square aspect to this way of being.

Just mess with people of your type, better. They could be dangerous )) loool

My sister has Scorpio Moon and she waited 7 years to have the opportunity to rub it in my face with something that wasn't even something to take a revenge plan on, she was hurt by it and that's why she did it, but I can't forget it, even after all these years. My thing is that I understand them being a Pisces Sun and having 2 planets in Taurus. They take you into a rollercoaster and you have to have the necessary tools to get to the other side and that means emotional toughness and a very good understanding of how emotions work. It's a deep dive and only if you know how to swim in muddy waters you can get out. ))

This turned dark

posted October 15, 2023 09:25 PM            

Yeah I know the scorpio and theyr Trust theme.
But I think when ure Young its more easy to Trust people and If u meet older Scorpions, and i dont mean ooold, 30 years is more than enough, u can take the Trust issues they got from other people/relations onto you.

I myself am a trustworthy person I presume..

So you think Taurus os the remédio, beacause its só dificulta tô take a Taurus out of its serenity i gess.

As i Said i get the Trust issues, but I think there is no much you can do If theyr Hurts alredy, and when they start to hurt you, It dosent help either..

The mother of my Child is a Cap with scorp moon, so Full revenge Powers i presume rsrs

Yeah I dont know It may be my Leo planet, i actually have/had a Lot of patience If i can use those words, tô the point tô "degenerate" myself, but as i Said i dont get It, where tthese people want tô get with this behavior..
Revenge may be nesecary but i dont think its fullfilling i dunno.
I get my revenge too, but in a way where i dont have tô make my Hands dirty, i like to say that i dont walk alone..

posted October 16, 2023 02:33 AM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
I have mars, vênus and júpiter in Leo, i think Scorpions get irritantes with leos, Thays ok they dont need tô like us, but when they act on It, Thats the problema.

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posted October 16, 2023 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Don't trigger the Scorpio. Leave well enough alone. I mean this in terms of both the animal and the human. Just don't do stupid hurtful things to either of them🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted October 16, 2023 07:29 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
This is the type of question where your Sun/Moon/rising and ruler matters the most than Venus/Mars/Jupiter or Saturn.

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Câncer Sun, Pieces Moon, Asc Libra

posted October 16, 2023 08:37 AM            

The thing I learned is that you don't have to give in to their tests. As soon as I learned when he was testing me, I turned it in my favor - didn't react to it, did the opposite of what he expected - and immediately stopped doing it because he was at risk of loosing me.

The first year, he used to pull a trick on me to see if I care enough about him. He used to start a fight and then leave in the middle of the night with no transportation home. And everytime I went out after him because I was worried. He makes a scene of not wanting to come back and that he goes home by foot.

Until one night when I let him leave. After 15 min he was back by himself.

They do pull tricks like this one.

Just don't play it.

posted October 16, 2023 08:44 AM            

One scared the heck out of me with his insinuations. Very very different in layers of manipulation and revenge, hatred, etc.

posted October 16, 2023 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Thats the point, they get trigerred Just só easy, Just by standing by my side lol. Im a câncer, If i wake UP a bit Moody im done xd, or If i feel disrespected Couse of my Leo planetas, i dont do nothing Just stay more cool on myside that day, enough too.. sometimes i think they should think twice.. but as stated above there is the RAW scorpio energy, that canto stand unfairness and só on ( what i almost doubt) and the rest of the chart that Will make them act acordingly with that whole chart.

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posted October 16, 2023 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
But keep in mind, the Scorpio I dealt with had Moon in Cancer domicile, very different from ur wife Moon in Scorpio fall. And his Mars is in Scorpio too, so domicile. He was a light Scorpio. He did do the manipulation and emotional drama, but I've seen the other too. Thhose that don't have a good Mars and Moon was bad and they would be a lot worse.

One scared the heck out of me with his insinuations. Very very different in layers of manipulation and revenge, hatred, etc.

So it depends on which planet is in Scorpio and very important how Mars is doing because that planet will control the other one. It all goes back to Mars and if Mars is bad too, then it doesnt have the "resources"to help.

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Yup, she hás Mars in Câncer. Think is as you Said This "bad scorp placment" Just throw everything Overboard só easely, they use sex and betrail tô harm u, and Thats a finish for me. Im a bit stupid só It can go a bit, Butt i have limites too, and i notice they Just wont stop. Its like If u get back to them they think " oh ok hes stupid, It Works with him, ill just keep domingo It hell ascept It"

posted October 16, 2023 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
[b] Thats the point, they get trigerred Just só easy, Just by standing by my side lol. Im a câncer, If i wake UP a bit Moody im done xd, or If i feel disrespected Couse of my Leo planetas, i dont do nothing Just stay more cool on myside that day, enough too.. sometimes i think they should think twice.. but as stated above there is the RAW scorpio energy, that canto stand unfairness and só on ( what i almost doubt) and the rest of the chart that Will make them act acordingly with that whole chart.

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I found hilarious how people with Scorpio placements stick with each other here, praise and put on pedestal these placements. However, in the real life, I see Scorpio often prefer do not make a deal with each other. And I think they hurt each other unless it would be a meant to be union.
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Yes i agree with u as Said above u have tô set limites as fast as possível, in the First "wrongdoing" in fact, they wont stop.
The think with me im empathic and "give in' with my water placements. But It seems It Just turnos thinks worse

posted October 16, 2023 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Yup, she hás Mars in Câncer. Think is as you Said This "bad scorp placment" Just throw everything Overboard só easely, they use sex and betrail tô harm u, and Thats a finish for me. Im a bit stupid só It can go a bit, Butt i have limites too, and i notice they Just wont stop. Its like If u get back to them they think " oh ok hes stupid, It Works with him, ill just keep domingo It hell ascept It"

And no shes not my wife, in fact im sayimg i dont ver want tô look into her eyes again.

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Oh, my sister has the same thing. Moon Scorpio, ruled by Mars in Cancer. She can get wild sometimes, but she feels everything so deeply and feels powerless sometimes. Although, she creates her own problems. But she means well. The Moon in Scorpio can be very attractive and its a sign of fertility even in fall because it's a water sign and a sexual one ruled by Mars. I bet she has very dark toned eyes. Every Moon in Scorpio I know have a deep look in their eyes and are very dark. But I might feel this beccause they often oppose my Moon.

Anyway, I know it's difficullt. She took revenge onn me on something so silly. But that's because they don't have any control on their emotions, they don't understand why they feel the way they feel and Mars in Cancer picks all sorts of fights, they care too much, they get involved too much.

posted October 16, 2023 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by TrueScorpio:
I think it's interesting how some of the comments have illicited a "me against them" tone. astrology is a look at the interaction of a combination of architypes that are possessed by and in the whole. When looking at an architype what triggers you most is the shadow side of yourself that hasn't been brought to the light. So the big question would be what is it about Scorpio-themes that you don't want to see in yourself? That is if you're looking at this as a lifetime of growth. If it's about how to win the game then it's about who is able to play the game best.

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Yeah maybe, as i Said i have lotes of pluto aspects and i tthink Thats a good Antidote for direct scorpio sign energy.
Live is a game in the end and everything is a "me against them" in a way, becaus ALL of us have egos.

posted October 16, 2023 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Yup, she hás Mars in Câncer. Think is as you Said This "bad scorp placment" Just throw everything Overboard só easely, they use sex and betrail tô harm u, and Thats a finish for me. Im a bit stupid só It can go a bit, Butt i have limites too, and i notice they Just wont stop. Its like If u get back to them they think " oh ok hes stupid, It Works with him, ill just keep domingo It hell ascept It"

And no shes not my wife, in fact im sayimg i dont ver want tô look into her eyes again.

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Oh, my sister has the same thing. Moon Scorpio, ruled by Mars in Cancer. She can get wild sometimes, but she feels everything so deeply and feels powerless sometimes. Although, she creates her own problems. But she means well. The Moon in Scorpio can be very attractive and its a sign of fertility even in fall because it's a water sign and a sexual one ruled by Mars. I bet she has very dark toned eyes. Every Moon in Scorpio I know have a deep look in their eyes and are very dark. But I might feel this beccause they often oppose my Moon.

Anyway, I know it's difficullt. She took revenge onn me on something so silly. But that's because they don't have any control on their emotions, they don't understand why they feel the way they feel and Mars in Cancer picks all sorts of fights, they care too much, they get involved too much.

It's difficult. but this is just a part of her life, that hurts her too. The natal chart is a way of seeing what your destiny is like, and the person in the middle of it, can't be seen in the chart. I don't know if you understand me. We are more than the chart and going further than the Sun/Moon/Rising, it's not going to explain the person, but the circumstances they are born in.

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Hey Thats a coincidence, you may be able tô understand me better, and yes i understand u too.

With her Mars CNJ my Sun, her Vênus in pices CNJ my moon, só yes we get along in someways.

But i Just wont start stating the things that happened between uns here...

I understand life circumstances and ALL, and that she feels and may want good, but as Said they Just throw everything Overboard Very quikly and they make sure tô Destroy u, or they believe só bad they can, i cant Help anymore..

posted October 16, 2023 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Yeah, I know it's a disaster there You can only understand her and make the best out of it. They usually want emotional expression reciprocated, but this might be in a "bit" violent way. You also have Suns opposite each other, this is a sign of battle of egos.

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Hey, never thought about a disaster but lately im thinking that might bê it hurhur
I get what you mean, but there are boundaries in life.
If u do so, dont need tô feel Sorry about me, my mother has scorp moon with câncer Mars, só i must bê used tô It.

posted October 16, 2023 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I have a scorpio ascendant, and I don't try to hurt people. Even if we're arguing, it isn't something that I want to do.

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Thanks for ure reply teasel, but its a bit too generic for my taste.

Sure not all scorp asc. wants tô hurt people, eaven só more If they have Sun in Libra, lovers of Harmony. (Correct me If im wrong with the position of your Sun)

But If "Hurt" is too strong of a word for u I am Sorry, i could have tried tô express me better.but if u cant see past that to try tô see the point i am trying tô stress out about scorpio behavior i cant Help you further.