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plutonianmenace
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posted November 01, 2023 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given the amount of fixed sign energy in my chart.

Posting a placidus and whole sign house chart with the transit for Nov 20, 2024.

Placidus
http://i.imgur.com/HliSDHG.png

Whole Sign
http://i.imgur.com/KLyFDf0.png

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posted November 01, 2023 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sending love.

I'm nervous when it gets to the middle degrees.

how is that uranus square treating your venus right now? I have Aquarius Mars 23 degrees.

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posted November 02, 2023 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, that's not a bad transit! It can be tough at times, but you'll feel so much growth and calm in your life with Pluto and Saturn.

My Saturn (and Uranus, Neptune and MC) are all in Capricorn, this was my Saturn Return during this time as well-- the last transit has been really rough at times, but there has also been so many incredibly wonderful times alongside. There will be endings, and your goal with Saturn there will be to find your centre and move from there. The dark is only scary until we realize we have control over our own experience. Just breathe when things get tough.

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posted November 03, 2023 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stawr:
sending love.

I'm nervous when it gets to the middle degrees.

how is that uranus square treating your venus right now? I have Aquarius Mars 23 degrees.


Crap, everything is crap, personal life is a dumpster right now. I cannot sleep well at all.

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posted November 04, 2023 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Crap, everything is crap, personal life is a dumpster right now. I cannot sleep well at all.

I'm sorry. I am convinced that Venus is self esteem.

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posted November 04, 2023 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sleep schedule is wonky.

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posted November 05, 2023 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AnastasiyaEnchanted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You’re not going to feel it for at least 6 years probably…until transit Pluto gets close to your sun in Leo in opposition.

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posted November 05, 2023 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think of it as a drag performance🤷🏿‍♂️.

You will be dragged. And what an epic ,life shaking performance that will be😂

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posted November 05, 2023 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
My sleep schedule is wonky.

So is mine.

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posted November 05, 2023 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:
You’re not going to feel it for at least 6 years probably…until transit Pluto gets close to your sun in Leo in opposition.

that is the upside! counting mainstream planets and anything under 5 degrees Pluto isn't squaring anything in my chart. I will enjoy the years off.

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posted November 05, 2023 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:
You’re not going to feel it for at least 6 years probably…until transit Pluto gets close to your sun in Leo in opposition.

What do I expect with that?

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posted November 07, 2023 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Given the amount of fixed sign energy in my chart.

Posting a placidus and whole sign house chart with the transit for Nov 20, 2024.

Placidus
http://i.imgur.com/HliSDHG.png

Whole Sign
http://i.imgur.com/KLyFDf0.png


You have so many planets in Leo. Pluto in Aquarius will create an opposition. It will also be inconjunct to your Virgo moon and Jupiter. I experienced Pluto in opposition to my Sun, as did my mum 10 years earlier than me. It was for us a time when we had to work very hard and the authorities and official bodies just torpedoed our efforts to such an extent that hardly any progress was possible. I don't wish this period of time back at all. With your 7th house in Aquarius and Venus in Leo, Pluto will also strongly affect your love life or perspective on love and relationships. Conjunctions and even squares are intense in my experience, but easier to master. With oppositions, there is hardly any common ground and big adjustments have to be made.

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posted November 07, 2023 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stawr:
sending love.

I'm nervous when it gets to the middle degrees.

how is that uranus square treating your venus right now? I have Aquarius Mars 23 degrees.


It will make your Mars unstoppable but is not a bad transit. I would be more concerned if I had sun or moon in Aquarius. Aquarius moons are notorious for being detached. They HATE drama but Pluto will just do that to them. It will make them feel emotional extremes.

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posted November 07, 2023 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto has been conjuncting my moon and i’ve been fine; not screwed.

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posted November 07, 2023 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rockwell:
You have so many planets in Leo. Pluto in Aquarius will create an opposition. It will also be inconjunct to your Virgo moon and Jupiter. I experienced Pluto in opposition to my Sun, as did my mum 10 years earlier than me. It was for us a time when we had to work very hard and the authorities and official bodies just torpedoed our efforts to such an extent that hardly any progress was possible. I don't wish this period of time back at all. With your 7th house in Aquarius and Venus in Leo, Pluto will also strongly affect your love life or perspective on love and relationships. Conjunctions and even squares are intense in my experience, but easier to master. With oppositions, there is hardly any common ground and big adjustments have to be made.

So this is going to happen in my 7th house and not 6th? Then I am guessing whole sign houses matter more. It would seem like the transit would ask me to lose the typical traits of a Leo and acquire more traits of an Aquarius?

Well, looks like I won't be getting a break there either. Screw this life :/

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posted November 07, 2023 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vansio:
pluto has been conjuncting my moon and i’ve been fine; not screwed.

I think he said inconjunct

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posted November 08, 2023 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
So this is going to happen in my 7th house and not 6th? Then I am guessing whole sign houses matter more. It would seem like the transit would ask me to lose the typical traits of a Leo and acquire more traits of an Aquarius?

Well, looks like I won't be getting a break there either. Screw this life :/


Since your natal Venus is in Leo relationship themes will be brought up anyway since Pluto transit in Aquarius will create an opposition. You have a late Leo Rising, right? So Pluto transit will start in your 6th house and then move into your 7th house the more it moves towards Pisces.

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posted November 08, 2023 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
It would seem like the transit would ask me to lose the typical traits of a Leo and acquire more traits of an Aquarius?


"Transiting Pluto Opposite the Sun: With the opposition, people and situations can make one feel powerless. Be cautious when dealing with authority, as it's a transit of "getting into it" with oppositional forces. On the other hand, facing a mighty foe because you have no choice can show you what you're made of. Circumstances inspire you to dig deep, and persevere and even achieve success against all the odds."

"This is often a significant time in your life where you become aware of your personal power, as people or situations may leave you no choice but to assert yourself. If you are forceful by nature, then you may appear as domineering and encounter strong resistance that has you engaged in a battle of wills. You often have difficulty knowing when to stop. Although this relentless quality can allow you to achieve your goals, it can make you ruthless at times where you want to triumph at all costs. There typically is an all or nothing attitude that can drive you to the top if you have a clear purpose. However, you may step on a few toes along the way.

If your identity is not fully formed, you may find this cycle helps to shape it. Although you can gain substantially now, both materially and in self-awareness, there usually is something that you have to give up or leave behind in order to come into your own. Sometimes strong attachments may lose their hold, especially if they are in the way of a deeper realization of who you are, an important attribute of this interval. You may struggle to let go of what you believe is essential, since it can be difficult, in the midst of this period, to recognize that what you give up now, allows for the emergence of what is likely more meaningful in the future.

You may seek greater control over your life at this time, even though circumstances out of your control may make it a challenge. Being right can motivate your actions, and you may attempt to coerce others to conform to your standards. Taking charge can be easy now. You often know where you stand without any equivocation, and you generally don't accept advice or criticism. In fact, sharing the spotlight or leadership may concern you, and your preference sometimes is to press ahead without assistance.

Others may oppose you during this period, and your encounters, whether with people or not, typically are intense. They offer to bring a profound awareness of who you are and to uncover the truth that can guide you for a lifetime. You generally have less fear than usual now, especially to look within yourself for answers. Your ability to face whatever comes your way can strengthen your resolve. Sometimes a feature of this cycle is to push you to extremes where you tap into resources and abilities that you knew not existed. The adjustments that you make now can bring you into greater alignment to your purpose and set you on the right course or redefine an existing one.

Challenges you might face when Transit Pluto opposition Sun:

Extreme pride
Forced decisions
Destructive purposes
A controlling will"
Father knows best attitude

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posted November 11, 2023 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@plutonianmenace

I wouldn’t say that you are screwed with Pluto entering Aqua. It conjunct your 6th cusp would give you the day-to-day problems you are having now, ie. insomnia

Befitting the sign in Aquarius, ruled by both Saturn and Uranus, some of these issues will be long-standing but of an on and off nature, meaning you could have good patches, where the issues are not as omnipresent, in there.

Tr Pluto opposite your Sun, won’t happen for another 7 to 8 years. Given that your Sun is in sign, it has the strength to overcome Pluto’s opposition to it. So just bear that in mind, even if you do end up with worse health problems.

I’d be more concerned about the Pluto square. Maybe a career change around that time?

Be sure to keep us all updated; after all we are all lifelong students of astrology, no matter how many years under our belt! 😁

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posted November 11, 2023 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
[B]Given the amount of fixed sign energy in my chart.

So my understanding of the whole sign Aqua Pluto 7H would play a role in what kind of relationships you'll be attracting into your life, possibly relationships that center around your friendship group. I do believe the trine to your Gemini Mars 11H might be nice, putting in a lot of effort into groups of people (friend group) perhaps. I also see trines being like "Mars is happening because of Pluto". So it could play out that there would be arguments with friend groups or more impulse when exploring ideas of 11h characteristics. The opposition to all of your Leo Placements though.... that seems like a big buzz kill to me. I went through a similar transit when transit Cap Pluto 2H went opposition to my 8h Cancer Sun. It brought out a lot of insecurities and fear within my financial situation. & oddly enough it seemed like Pluto picked apart all of the negative aspects of my Cancer Sun. It was as if I could not win whether I tried to fight or gave in.

I see Aqua Saturn in the 7h opposition to Leo placements in the 1H being someone who isn't afraid to be themselves, but possibly unwilling to compromise a loss of self when partnered with another. Somehow this transit could show you the effects of how crucial it is to change your perspective on partnership in the world around you.

Personally I do not like the Scorp Pluto square transit Aqua Pluto but it could play out nicely. I think square aspects are always there to teach us something new. They are hard but if you can endure them you become more resilient to change.

You should've seen a tiny glimpse of Aqua Pluto when it first ingressed this last spring!

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posted November 11, 2023 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rockwell:
"Transiting Pluto Opposite the Sun: With the opposition, people and situations can make one feel powerless. Be cautious when dealing with authority, as it's a transit of "getting into it" with oppositional forces. On the other hand, facing a mighty foe because you have no choice can show you what you're made of. Circumstances inspire you to dig deep, and persevere and even achieve success against all the odds."

"This is often a significant time in your life where you become aware of your personal power, as people or situations may leave you no choice but to assert yourself. If you are forceful by nature, then you may appear as domineering and encounter strong resistance that has you engaged in a battle of wills. You often have difficulty knowing when to stop. Although this relentless quality can allow you to achieve your goals, it can make you ruthless at times where you want to triumph at all costs. There typically is an all or nothing attitude that can drive you to the top if you have a clear purpose. However, you may step on a few toes along the way.

If your identity is not fully formed, you may find this cycle helps to shape it. Although you can gain substantially now, both materially and in self-awareness, there usually is something that you have to give up or leave behind in order to come into your own. Sometimes strong attachments may lose their hold, especially if they are in the way of a deeper realization of who you are, an important attribute of this interval. You may struggle to let go of what you believe is essential, since it can be difficult, in the midst of this period, to recognize that what you give up now, allows for the emergence of what is likely more meaningful in the future.

You may seek greater control over your life at this time, even though circumstances out of your control may make it a challenge. Being right can motivate your actions, and you may attempt to coerce others to conform to your standards. Taking charge can be easy now. You often know where you stand without any equivocation, and you generally don't accept advice or criticism. In fact, sharing the spotlight or leadership may concern you, and your preference sometimes is to press ahead without assistance.

Others may oppose you during this period, and your encounters, whether with people or not, typically are intense. They offer to bring a profound awareness of who you are and to uncover the truth that can guide you for a lifetime. You generally have less fear than usual now, especially to look within yourself for answers. Your ability to face whatever comes your way can strengthen your resolve. Sometimes a feature of this cycle is to push you to extremes where you tap into resources and abilities that you knew not existed. The adjustments that you make now can bring you into greater alignment to your purpose and set you on the right course or redefine an existing one.

Challenges you might face when Transit Pluto opposition Sun:

Extreme pride
Forced decisions
Destructive purposes
A controlling will"
Father knows best attitude


Hit the nail on the head with this one!

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posted November 20, 2023 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted November 20, 2023 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that's 8 years from now, but when Pluto is going to hit Aquarius 14°, I'm doomed! I must have faith and surrender to the forces at work. This degree is an extremely sensitive point in my chart, I even feel it when the moon goes through there.

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posted November 20, 2023 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I know that's 8 years from now, but when Pluto is going to hit Aquarius 14°, I'm doomed! I must have faith and surrender to the forces at work. This degree is an extremely sensitive point in my chart, I even feel it when the moon goes through there.

That's my IC degree.

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posted November 20, 2023 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really, teasel? What a coincidence! I wonder how it would have played in a connection between us. How is your IC aspected? Have you investigated into the Pluto transit through it?

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