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arcturus90
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posted April 23, 2024 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The square aspect between two planets, creates a difficulty to make both planets work together...
But is it possible to make them work together time to time, through hard work ?

For example, the asteroid Talent square Mercury : with such aspect, is it possible to be talented in some intellectual works, through hard work ?

Or this aspect only creates an endless impossibility to make the planets work together ?

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posted April 24, 2024 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have actually experienced the conjunction, square and opposition as being very similar.In my life, it usually manifests as a "bottleneck situation that is haphazard and unavoidable.

I don't know about the asteroid spoken of,but a square/opp/conj to Mercury typically suggests one being challenged in terms of what they "know"(Mercury).

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posted April 24, 2024 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol people constantly think the square aspect ONLY has the worst traits to it which is completely wrong. They have BOTH qualities to them and are very much similar to the Conjunction in that regard, actually they are much more similar to the Conjunction than the sextile and trine. Like for example people with hard Mercury-Uranus aspects isn`t just crazy or bizarre they also tend to be very intuitive with a quick mind and can be very original too even more so then those with the trines and sextiles the same i have seen with people who have hard Neptune aspects they are the ones who tend to be very creative, sensitive and more affected by their surroundings than those with the easier aspects. The square has both the good and bad in them and it`s up to the person to work through it and find a way to make it work which is very possible.

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posted April 24, 2024 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It produces a lot of energy. As the like poles of magnets repel, but there’s a lot of energy between them. You need to learn to use it.
It might take a lot of time and trials to see how to use hard aspect energy for our good. We could resist this energy also.

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posted May 11, 2024 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 12, 2024 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, thanks all for your replies
I'm still thinking about the square aspect.
I don't have Mercury square Talent asteroid, but for example I have Poesia and Talent asteroids in a square aspect, and it seems difficult to me to write good poems, I can do it sometimes but it takes effort.
And I have Moon square Ascendant. It could mean that I find it difficult to find my footing but it's still possible

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posted May 13, 2024 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
Ok, thanks all for your replies
I'm still thinking about the square aspect.

I don't have Mercury square Talent asteroid, but for example I have Poesia and Talent asteroids in a square aspect, and it seems difficult to me to write good poems, I can do it sometimes but it takes effort.

And I have Moon square Ascendant. It could mean that I find it difficult to find my footing but it's still possible


I don't know about the other placements that you spoke of. But as a Moon/Asc square native myself, this is what I know.

The Moon represents what is happening within. Whilst the Asc is the ad hoc response/action to what is happening without.

Depending on the signs and energies involved,there is a tendency to let one's emotional antennae(Moon) guide one's external interactions & perceptions of the world(Asc).

In other words, your gut(Moon) instincts are usually very strong . And often prove right. So you disregard all else to listen to them without reserve.

With Moon/Asc conjunct, this happens automatically.You absolutely trust in what you believe internally and act accordingly. There is no buffer in between and life externally (Asc) is experienced internally through personalised reality.

This can make you someone extremely subjective as you tend to follow your own whims. This even if it clashes with the "objective" findings or ideas presented by others.

Sometimes you can look "ridiculous " to others. Often they sense a childlike nature present in you or lack of inner objectivity-which tends to make you wear your heart on your sleeve. As you stay in your zone /world and act according to your own internal guidance.

With Moon square Asc, there is still the same gut(Moon) feelings that surface to guide you and your actions (Asc). But there is a clash between the internal "knowing" and external "intelligence" that makes successful cohesion of the two in the moment NOW, difficult.

When this happens, one tends to have trouble in incorporating the gut(Moon) self on how to act, with the expectations from others on how to act(Asc).

In other words, they tend to (on one hand )doubt or second guess their intuition. Or care too much of other's response to their actions, to let their inner impulses guide them.

There could be an innate fear of looking "ridiculous" to others or fear of alienation because of disagreement with others. So one feels the conflict of inner feeling (Moon ) and extenal action (Asc) to the moment NOW.

So whether the native acts or doesn't act in response to the moment NOW. There is always uncertainty as to whether the decision was right.

This inner conflict is rarely ever resolved successfully and because one cares a great deal for external feedback, it can make them extremely defensive or reactive to criticism (either for their action or inaction).

You may notice them as having a concerned or even "troubled" look about them because of this inner chasm.People will often ask them "what's wrong? " a lot.

This because Moon/Asc can be transparent about their feelings (all Moon/Asc people usually are).So the disappearance of a smile and sudden emergence of brow lines or frown, can be easily seen by others.Hence the concern.

They can elicit care and tenderness from others spontaneously. That is why Moon/Asc people can make great actors. Good actors are able to get the audience to feel as they feel. Connect with them and sway them to their intent etc.

But because the moon is circular.All actions asserted on others are also asserted on the self. So they can also be influenced and swayed by the moods of other's (including the conjunction of Moon to Asc).

In the latter case, they'll think themselves impervious to manipulation. That it was their "idea" to respond the way they did. It was not.

Whilst with the square/opposition, there is more of an awareness of being manipulated or swayed. The square and opposition are usually the more internally "probing" aspects. So they are more detached.

The latter is always trying to sort where they are emotionally on an issue vs. The external influence on how to act (on the same issue).

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posted May 13, 2024 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot for this explanation

This is actually what I was thinking about lately : "This because Moon/Asc can be transparent about their feelings (all Moon/Asc people usually are).So the disappearance of a smile and sudden emergence of brow lines or frown, can be easily seen by others.Hence the concern."
: I was thinking about me that way, but not about my square Moon-Ascendant (it was about my Moon in Taurus).

Yes, I think I'm quite impervious to manipulation. Maybe that is because I follow my own whims

And yes I do often feel ridiculous in public (ascendant square Moon in 10th house, that's why ?)

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posted May 31, 2024 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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