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Topic: toxic families
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 12:28 PM
came across this story today. can you imagine saying this about your child, or having your mother say it about you?"Candy Spelling made some shocking statements against her daughter Tori Spelling on a Springfield, Massachusetts radio station, alleging that Tori's estrangement from her family "killed" her father Aaron Spelling. Candy says one day her daughter stopped speaking to the family and she doesn't know "where the anger came from." "It was sad," Candy tells the Kellogg Crew on 94.7 WMAS. "That's what killed my husband [Aaron]. He just didn't want to live after that." She continues, "He'd done everything he could possibly do for his daughter and then she wanted no part of him once he couldn't do anything for her." As for working things out with Tori, Candy says, "I've always been trying to work on the relationship."" sounds like she's really trying to "work on the relationship" - as long as the press can be kept onboard! IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 124 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 12:40 PM
It may give a little insight into why Tori doesn't speak to her anymore. Tori is learning and growing. Good for her. Maybe one day they can heal the rift. Maybe one day Candy will learn and grow also. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 12:48 PM
You know I was just thinking about the very same thing. There was a lifetime movie with tori spelling on this past monday, and then I saw some bits of her reality show. I feel bad for her. I don't know the story, but her mom seems so cold....I can't understand why anyone who has a fortune that vast would argue about it..just split it up and be done.IP: Logged |
Lyra Knowflake Posts: 11 From: London, UK Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 12:49 PM
Toxic families are practically normal (in my experience) - I think it's our expectations of families that aren't. People say a lot of things, but at the end of the day words don't mean sh*t and some people don't either - & that's just the way it is. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 12:52 PM
i don't know if i would ever get past my mother showing off for the press by saying i had been responsible for my father's death. can't stand tori spelling but i feel for her motherless life. cause that's what it looks like to me. the woman hasn't a motherly inch on her body. even if it were true, the press is not where you take that kind of statement! (unless you're the "wife of" who has always envied those in the actual spotlight...)and yes, sadly toxic families are all too common, almost the norm...but not this obvious. maybe tori is lucky to have such a cut-and-dried situation. saves wondering if it's your own fault... IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 127 From: formerly Dulce Luna Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 05:58 PM
I read this and I think you have to be pretty f%cked up to say something like that about your own kid. I feel for Tori. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 140 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 06:53 PM
It is sad that Tori's mum said that. If you genuinely love your kid (or anyone), you wouldn't place a statement like that on their shoulders.I agree, katatonic, Tori would be hurt by her mother's comments and any attempt at a healthy relationship would probably be futile. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 09:43 PM
Jeez, what kind of person would say such a thing about her own daughter, that she killed her father... I'm not a Tori Spelling fan at all, and I must say that comment by her mother just reeks IP: Logged |
Dervish Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2009 10:29 PM
Mother sounds narcissistic (in the drama queen attention ***** way). I also suspect that it wasn't her father Tori was estranged from, but her mother who was with her father. Especially given that she and her brother both got the same amount. IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 260 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2009 02:36 AM
If I may have my Libran Moon moment, do I recall correctly that Tori Spelling was quoted as saying, "at least we can have babies together" as a dig at the wife of her new boyfriend? If so it does not endear me to her as an image of injured innocence. Though of course I have to remind myself how the press works, maybe neither of them said anything of the sort. If they did, I think the mother sounds frustrated but I agree it is the kind of comment best kept to the ear of a trusted friend and not a journalist. Or better, not spoken at all. There's different ways of saying the same thing but the way that is put does indeed sound quite malicious. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2009 05:57 AM
it is sad. ideally a mum would not say that to her kids, but in real life it happens and things much worst too. but that's wrong. *libra moon/pluto puzzled here* IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 11:41 AM
I wonder if this fued isn't exagerated for press.. On the tori & dean show previews, it shows tori crying her eyes out saying "I don't want to lose another parent," then it shows the front door opening, but you don't see who is on the other side. Maybe they "make up" on the show. Could be the whole situation is contrivved, who knows?IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 12:26 PM
no wonder she rebelled for years. i don't care for her much either, but i do feel sorry for her. some things money can't buy.mothering from a position of guilt and blame. all too common. all too crappy. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 02:07 PM
gypsee, how cynical! but you may be on to something now i think about it that is a very possible explanation! hollywood creatures to the core....IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 03:03 PM
gypsee - oh girl, you are good. probobly spot on. otherwise nobody is really that interested in her anyway. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 03:23 PM
Yep thats what I was thinking, cuz without Daddys genius mind (we gotta give him props I mean he WAS tv in the 80's and 90's) what does the family have left in terms of generating interest???? Horribly cycnical, I know. I am working on that. lol.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 03, 2009 04:29 PM
still classifies as a toxic family in my book! all about the money...and why doesn't mom just give her some? lotsa ??sand if it is a publicity stunt have to give tori credit for not caring about her image -but it's basically credit for how low someone is willing to go for press strokes... it's true families create a lot of toxins in us, but sometimes it's not the family that's toxic, just the perception of the "poisoned" member. the family is like saturn, doing its best to keep you stable for the sake of the "whole" but too much stability chokes the life out of you. but some are much more poisonous in their methods of control than others. IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 04, 2009 06:26 AM
yeah kat, pretty wierd.IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 34 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 04, 2009 08:45 AM
I agree that such family matters are not for the public domain.But at the same time when celebs make their lives and fortunes off our personal interest in them as brands - they cant complain about the attention they didnt want in the first place.they go out of their way in generating intrigue about themselves and make millions for no reason other than catching our attention - rather than hard work and in most cases even minimal talent - Tori is a good example Thats like a butcher saying the sight of blood and gore everyday is unfair to them , duuuhhhh.
And she's not the first daughter or even child to do that to her father, i have seen many such apologies of progeny in my short life. Thats if it was true about her not caring about her father beyond what she could milk off him, in the first place.She deserves the benefit of doubt nonetheless. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 04, 2009 09:39 AM
Yes Venus! I had to laugh at the clip on the Tori & Dean show where THEIR cameras are filming the paparazzi filming them! And Tori is yelling "you can't film my house, you know your not allowed!" And then Dean steps over to the car and says "If you ever get aggressive with my wife again, I'll kick your A$$!" It gets to be a bit surreal.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 04, 2009 12:14 PM
this is an example of how families operate sometimes, though. aaron had the money and the string-pulling power, and put his daughter on tv...and therefore expected her to behave as he wished, most likely. whether out of innocent concern or powerdrive, i am sure he felt he had a right to tell her, do this or be cut off, or stop doing that, and at a certain point in your life that gets more than old! so a vicious circle is started, and perpetuated by her trying to get her own back, etc etc... it's not only families with money that do this to each other, but it is easier to see when it's in the spotlight.. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 05, 2009 12:29 PM
I thought of some more stuff..a little backstory if you willTori dated Nick Savalas (son of Telly) for many years. He was not a nice dude. Violent and addicted to drugs. Her parents did not approve. Then she met a man named ( I could have this a little wonky) Charlie Shanian. They dated VERY briefly and decided to marry. Their wedding was over a mil, one of the most expensive in Hollywierd, and Daddy Aaron paid of course. During the marriage (which lasted one year) Tori met Dean McDermott, who also was married and either had a child, or wife was expecting. They fell madly in love, had an affair, and decided to get divorced and marry one another. Tori wanted her Dad to pay for ANOTHER wedding like the first. And he said NO. So they settled for a scaled down version, the likes of none of us would probably ever see. Tori's mother didn't want Aaron to pay anything for the second wedding. She was highly pi$$ed. But Aaron adored Tori, she was his little princess, so he paid. Aaron was substantally older than Candy Spelling. I am sure she was considered a "trophy" wife, when they first met. Read, "gold-digger." You never hear much about Tori's brother, and dare I say, maybe it is because he is a male, and therefore no competition to Candy Spelling. I believe that the toxicity comes from Candy. It seems as though, the vibe I get anyway, is that she is jealous of her own daughter, and uses guilt to punish her, while airing their dirty laundry in the press so that she comes out looking like the put upon parent. The poor grieving widow. Bullcrap. She's probably doing the horizontal mambo with the gardener or the massuse or both, while purposing torturing her daughter for something she knows cannot possibly be changed or proven since Aaron is dead. Whether truth or fiction it is disgusting. I may be a simple person, but for Gods sake where is the love people!?! IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 07, 2009 12:38 PM
Sorry Kat! didn't intend to overwhelm you with all that. It just bothers me so much, you know the things people say, whether in jest, or for press or whatever. They should know that leaves an indeliable imprint on the other party.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 553 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 07, 2009 02:18 PM
i agree. and also it's good to remember that what the press reports isn't always the truth...and these ladies surely know that by now! but as an illustration they are quite spectacular!!IP: Logged |