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GypseeWind
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posted June 05, 2009 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
I saw on the news that David Carradine committed suicide. I just wanted to pay homage to him. He was a wonderful actor. My prayers to the family and friends.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 05, 2009 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
unless he committed suicide with his hands tied behind his back and rope around his nut-sac, i would think it was not suicide.

poor old feller.

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GypseeWind
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posted June 05, 2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yikes!

OMG awful! Didn't hear that part. Maybe I only heard the initial press release. That's terrible. I hope they catch whomever did that.

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posted June 05, 2009 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Mia     Edit/Delete Message
WoW the things men go through to achieve an "O"...

R.I.P

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venusmars
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posted June 05, 2009 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message

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lalalinda
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posted June 05, 2009 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
I was thinking the same thing Mia

RIP David

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juniperb
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posted June 05, 2009 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Happy trails Grasshopper

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Dervish
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posted June 05, 2009 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
Quite a few go out that way. More examples here:
http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/cowheart.asp

On the plus side, he probably enjoyed the transition tween life & death than most others do, AND he wasn't patronizing child prostitutes as many other tourists in Thailand do.

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libraschoice7
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posted June 05, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
I was shocked when I read about it, I cant believe that's how he died

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted June 05, 2009 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Rest In Peace David Carradine.... we will miss you at the parties! All our love to the family members

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GypseeWind
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posted June 05, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
there is another thread about this on astro with a story link..

I didn't know it was the auto thing. Also someone said he was an abusive person. I didn't know that, but I guess it's possible.

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted June 07, 2009 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
We all saw him in February... playing with his band... he certainly didn't look nor act like he was suicidal...

He had just launched a new piece of equipment for exercising and was pretty happy at the last Conscious Living Expo here in Los Angeles when we attended his class...

David was a great friend of a dear friend of mine and we all can't believe this was an intentional suicidal...

Many blessings to his family (especially Keith) and friends at this time of loss and shock...

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted June 07, 2009 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
LOS ANGELES –
David Carradine's family members, dissatisfied with Thai investigators and "profoundly disturbed" by the publication of a forensics photo in a Bangkok tabloid, are seeking help from the FBI and an independent pathologist and have threatened legal action against any media outlet that reprints images of the actor in death.

Keith Carradine has filed reports with the FBI that could lead to the agency's involvement, said Mark Geragos, attorney for the "Kung Fu" actor's half-brother. The FBI confirmed that Carradine's family had contacted the agency.

The family will also seek an independent autopsy by famed forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to determine whether another person could have been involved, Geragos said. Results of an autopsy performed Friday in Bangkok were not expected for at least three weeks.

A chambermaid found Carradine's body Thursday at Bangkok's Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel. Thai authorities said they have all but ruled out foul play, based on surveillance footage and interviews with hotel staff that indicate no one was in Carradine's room before he died, said Col. Somprasong Yenthuam, who is heading the investigation.

A grainy photo published on the Saturday cover of the tabloid Thai Rath shows a naked body suspended from a clothes bar in a hotel closet, hands apparently bound together above the head and feet on the floor. The face is blacked out and other areas are obscured.

The paper did not indicate the source of the image, but Thai police said they believed it was a picture of Carradine's body taken by a forensics team.

Keith Carradine said in a statement that the family was "profoundly disturbed by the release in Thailand of photographs taken at the scene of David Carradine's death," and threatened legal action against further distribution.

"The family wants it understood that, per attorney Mark Geragos, any persons, publications or media outlets will be fully prosecuted for invasion of privacy and causing severe emotional distress if the photos are published," the statement read.

The actor's family hopes the body will arrive in Los Angeles by Monday, Geragos said, but he did not give specifics.

Geragos said the family decided to intervene because of conflicting information about Carradine's death and a lack of direct information from Thai authorities.

"All we really know is not much more than what the public knows, and that's disturbing," Geragos said.

Agents were checking with the FBI's legal attache at the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok to see if Thai authorities "are requesting or would welcome FBI assistance in this matter." FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said the agency generally only gets involved in death investigations overseas if a crime is suspected.

Investigators initially said Carradine's body was found "naked, hanging in a closet," causing them to suspect he had taken his own life. But his family, friends and representatives have said they doubt the 72-year-old actor would have killed himself.

Police later said the actor may have died from accidental suffocation or heart failure after revealing that he was found with a rope tied around his wrist, neck and genitals — leading to speculation that Carradine may have engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

But Geragos said he expects the examination by the New York-based Baden, a celebrity among forensic pathologists who frequently consults on high-profile cases, will clear up many unanswered questions.

"It's an amazing thing what a good pathologist can accomplish," Geragos said.

Carradine flew to Thailand last week and began work on a film titled "Stretch" two days before his death. His friends and associates told CNN's Larry King he had a happy marriage, recently bought a new car, and had several films lined up after he finished work in Bangkok.

A martial arts practitioner himself, Carradine was best known for the U.S. TV series "Kung Fu," which aired from 1972-75. He played Kwai Chang Caine, an orphan who was raised by Shaolin monks and fled China for the American West after killing the emperor's nephew in retaliation for the murder of his kung fu master.

Carradine also appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby. He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga "Kill Bill."

Funeral arrangements have not been announced.

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GypseeWind
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posted June 07, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Dr. Baden is the best.
Keep us posted BiBi, if you hear anything please.

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blue moon
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posted June 07, 2009 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Rest in Peace, David.

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koiflower
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posted June 08, 2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I loved watching him in Kung Fu - he's an icon from my childhood.

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted June 09, 2009 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
I grew up watching David on TV... then my own daughter grew up watching David's show... he was an icon for generations...

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GypseeWind
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posted June 09, 2009 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, me too.
And then the Kill Bill movies.
We can't forget those.

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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted June 09, 2009 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
my daughter was too young to watch the Kill Bill movies... however, I did!! You're correct... we shouldn't forget Kill Bill

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D for Defiant
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posted June 11, 2009 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
Rest in peace, David.

He was a wonderful actor.

My condolences to his family and friends. This is a particularly hard time for them.

Keep us updated, Bi Bi.

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posted June 14, 2009 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Los Angeles –
A forensic pathologist who oversaw a second post mortem on Kung Fu star David Carradine's body at the direction of his family suggested on Friday that the death was not a suicide, but declined to say why.

Dr. Michael Baden told Reuters that the actor's family wants to withhold details until a full investigation is completed.

"There are certain findings of the autopsy that would indicate that it's not a suicide, but I don't want to go beyond what's been said until we can review all the information coming in from Thailand and come to a final opinion as to the cause and manner of death," said Baden, host of cable channel HBO's Autopsy series.

Carradine, 72, was found hanging in the closet of his hotel suite in Bangkok on June 4. His body was flown to Los Angeles last weekend.

The media pointed to suicide or accidental autoerotic asphyxiation as possible causes of death. But Thai authorities have said it will be weeks before they reach a final conclusion based on toxicology and lab reports.

Dr Jonathan Arden, a forensic pathologist who testifies in court, said Baden's comments raise "the question of how he can state it's not a suicide if he needs the tests and the results of the investigation to reach a conclusion".

Authorities in the United States classify death by autoerotic asphyxiation as accidental and not the result of suicide.

Carradine was most famous for his role in the 1970s television series Kung Fu. He enjoyed a comeback earlier this decade as the titular star of Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill movies.
- Reuters

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posted June 14, 2009 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
LOS ANGELES (AP) –
Hundreds gathered to honor David Carradine at a sprawling hillside cemetery during a funeral that was attended by family, former co-stars and other Hollywood friends.
The invitation-only services were held indoors Saturday at the Hall of Liberty at Forest Lawn-Hollywood Hills, a 400-acre (160-hectare) cemetery laid out adjacent to Los Angeles' Griffith Park.
Mostly gloomy skies prevailed outside, with cold blasts of wind sweeping across the cemetery. The funeral lasted more than two hours and as more than 400 mourners left, clouds parted in the west offering a magnificent sunset.
Guests gathered and hugged outside the hall, where security ensured only invited guests gained entry.
They gathered more than a week after Carradine, 72, was found hanging in a Bangkok hotel room on June 4. Thai authorities continue to investigate his death. A statement released Thursday by a private pathologist said suicide had been ruled out as a cause of death.
Carradine's family stayed out of sight from a small group of reporters and cameras. His burial was private. Brothers Keith and Robert Carradine asked for privacy and understanding while the family mourned in a statement released on Thursday.
Keith Carradine briefly appeared outside before the service and greeted some people before heading back inside.
Among the hundreds of guests were numerous actors, including Michael Madsen, Jane Seymour, Tom Selleck, Frances Fisher, Daryl Hannah, Lucy Liu, Edward James Olmos, Ali Larter, and James Cromwell. Rob Schneider also attended, carrying a basket of flowers.
Madsen and Liu both starred alongside Carradine in Quentin Tarantino's two-part «Kill Bill» saga. Carradine married his fifth wife, Annie Bierman, at Madsen's home in 2004.
Carradine is perhaps best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine on three seasons of the 1970s hit show «Kung Fu.» His role in popular culture was cemented by the time he left the show after three seasons in 1975.
He later went on to star in the cult flick «Death Race 2000» and in Ingmar Bergman's «The Serpent's Egg» in 1977, but by the 1980s his career arc had moved to lower-budget fare.
He continued to foster interests in Asian herbs, exercise and philosophy, and made instructional videos on tai chi and other martial arts.
Tarantino's «Kill Bill» films offered Carradine a career resurgence. His role as the titular character earned Carradine a Golden Globe nomination for best supporting actor for his role in «Kill Bill _ Vol. 2.

Carradine's father, John, was a character actor whose 50-year stage and screen career began during Hollywood's early years.
Some mourners on Saturday opted for bits of Western flair, with some sporting cowboy boots and hats and turquoise jewelry. Keith Carradine wore a bolo tie.
Programs handed out to guests included a photo of a smiling Carradine in a tuxedo on the cover and sketch of the actor on the back, above lyrics to «Midnight Rider» by The Allman Brothers Band.
The program indicated several remembrances by Carradine's family and song selections that included The Beatles' «Let It Be» and Ludwig von Beethoven's «Requiem for a Fallen Hero.
Associated Press photojournalist Matt Sayles contributed to this report.

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posted June 14, 2009 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Hundreds honor David Carradine at funeral
June 14, 2009 - 2:01PM


Mourners have arrived under overcast skies in Los Angeles for David Carradine's funeral.
More than 400 people, including numerous actors, arrived at a cemetery on Saturday afternoon to honour the life of the Kung Fu and Kill Bill star.
The 72-year-old actor's body was found hanging in a Bangkok hotel room on June 4. Thai authorities are still investigating his death. A statement released on Thursday by a private pathologist said suicide had been ruled out as a cause of death.
Services and the burial were private. Among those seen entering the memorial service were the actor's brother, Keith Carradine, longtime friend Michael Madsen and Kill Bill co-star Lucy Liu.
David Carradine rose to fame in the 1970's TV series Kung Fu and has appeared in more than 100 films.
AP

Full text of Carradine statements
By The Associated Press
Full text of statements read Thursday by Keith and Robert Carradine, brothers of late actor David Carradine,
and Dr. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by the family to independently examine the body.

Keith Carradine:

"First of all, we would like to thank everyone for their heartfelt expressions of love and sympathy for what we are going through. This is a devastating loss for our family and we greatly appreciate the compassion pouring in from all over the world.

We wish to express our gratitude to the government of Thailand and the Lumpini Police Station in Bangkok for their support and cooperation and to the U.S. Department of State for their assistance.

The investigation is ongoing. A second autopsy was performed by Dr. Michael Baden. His initial findings will be addressed in a written statement which will be read in a moment."

Robert Carradine:

"Until we have all of the pending results of the investigation we respectfully ask that we be allowed to lay our beloved brother, husband and father, grandfather and great-grandfather to rest in peace and with dignity.

Once the investigation is fully completed and definitive conclusions have been reached, we will address the findings with the public.

Thank you for your understanding during this profoundly painful time."

Statement of Dr. Michael Baden, read by David Zutler of Zutler Special Services:

"The autopsy findings and the evidence thus far available demonstrate that Mr. Carradine's death was not the result of suicide. However, to reach a final determination as to the cause and the manner of death we must wait for further information from Thailand as to the scene findings and the completion of the crime laboratory and toxicology studies that are still being performed."

A service of the Associated Press(AP)


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D for Defiant
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posted June 14, 2009 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for keeping us updated, Bi Bi DeAngelo.

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The opposite of love is indeed hate, not indifference- for indifference is a form of detachment, and both love and hate are two forms of attachment, and detachment is naturally the opposite of attachment. Within the department of attachment, however, love and hate are each other's polar opposite, though oftentimes there is a fine line between the two and though many have experienced feelings mixed with both love and hate and the hate that has once been love. There are many theories of the relationships between love and hate, but ultimately, hate is death force, which destroys, and hence leads to untimely or chronic destruction; whereas love is life force, which nurtures, and creates life- life that stems from love, full of love- true life.

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posted June 15, 2009 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
RIP David.

I used to love watching Kung Fu as a kid. Always thought of him as embodying the character. I know they're actors, but still, it just seemed to me that that was him. And that's how I've always thought of him. And will remember him.

I hope that he's remembered for more than the way he has passed now.

Love and peace - to him - and his loved ones.

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