posted July 07, 2009 01:22 PM         

I remember

I gave a reading to somebody who asked insight about an exboyfriend.

I told her what I saw in the chart. I didn't sugarcoat anything....I don't do that as an astrologer.

Somebody accused me of stuff,and I defended myself.

I never said that I was wrong nor right.

Then there was this stuff about Pisces. People were invalidating my Piscean nature......even after I explained about my fellow Pisces Moon maternal grandfather and my father, and how I can strongly relate to them with my strong Pisces/Neptune. I pointed out about stuff in my life that makes me strongly relate to Pisces/Neptune.

I was being told that I am not Pisces and that I might dictated what my lessons with their pinning me down as a Scorpio without considering that my whole chart reflects my lessons. I am a wholistic astrologer.....I take the whole chart into consideration. I don't pin people down nor judge others by their charts. That's one of my petpeeves as an astrologer.

heck...even now...I put very little emphasis on tropical sunsigns any way. I am very skeptical of their use for people born in the Southern Hemisphere. I don't say that it's a wrong either.

I explained my lessons that fit with my t-square.

I never portrayed myself as a victim. I even believe that all my experiences are lessons to be learned, and I believe that prepared me for my life purpose as a neurodiversity advocate. That's your perception though, but that doesn't make it true. The same thing for me. Perceptions are relative.

I defended myself passionately, and my neurodivergent emotions got the best of me, and I had an emotional meltdown like many neurodivergents do. I admit that. I was even crying after reading all that stuff. The truth is I do cry very easily. When I was a kid, I cried a lot and was called "crybaby". As I got older, the tears were replaced with anger. I saved my crying when nobody was around. The only time that I did cry in front of people was in front of my mother and stepfather.

I wanted to forget about this place.

I came back because I realized that I was wrong to quit this forum because of what a few people say. I know that my greatest problem is that I am very "thin-skinned", and that's one of the bad sides of being a neurodivergent. If you go into special education classes, and view the children there. They are the same like me. I know because I was in special education classes. As they get older and become adults, they are still the same way, but they will respond differently. Of course, things like experiences factor. I even take cod liver oil/fish oil, and it tones down my hypersensitivity...so it's not out of control. It's my greatest weakness along with my insecurity. I have already pointed that out before. I know my weaknesses and flaws. Nobody needs to point that out to me nor anybody else. Heck...I even showed them my psychological/neurological reports so people would understand me. I have nothing to hide. I am not about putting on false pretences. As a neurodiversity advocate, It wasn't for sympathy nor compassion. A matter of fact, I never liked anybody having sympathy nor compassion for me even though I can have sympathy and compassion for others. A part of that is because of my insecurity and don't want to be looked at as somebody "special" like I was viewed in the past. I can take care of myself. I can defend myself. I can fight for myself. I don't like using words like victim when it comes to me. I am not somebody's doormat. I do fight back when I feel that I have to.

any ways....I realized how much I miss Linda Goodman forum. They are a lot of really cool people here. I don't have to leave because a few dislike me. That's like leaving my country because a few people in the country dislike me. That's ridiculous. Not everybody is going to like me even though my idealism wishes that everybody love each other and be in unity. It's my multiracial background and my special education experiences that strongly factor into that idealism.

10 years ago, I would have never told anybody about me....especially not in person.

It's easier for me to be open about myself on the internet than in person because I am very shy person.

as a neurodiversity advocate that plans on creating a nonprofit neurodiversity organization, I have to lose that shyness. Of course, I have to be open and honest about myself as a public figure raising awareness about neuro-divergent conditions.

I have a friend named Pam.
I did a post on her in this forum about her as a person with Lupus and a Lupus awareness advocate. She has Lupus,and she does the same things that I do. She gets misunderstood too. All she does is try to raise awareness about Lupus. She doesn't ask for sympathy nor compassion for herself. She just wants understanding for herself and others like her.

I just want the same as her.

my psychological/neurological test reports http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album01

Raymond.

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 07, 2009 01:34 PM         

the whole point about the Eris thing is

That I was trying to make a point about the tolerance of diversity

and that it's not about somebody being right or others wrong......especially if we disagree with what other person says or do.
That tends to be a problem with many things like religion,politics,race relations,and many other things.

I even posted about Eris in Astrology that goes beyond discord as keywords.
To me it was about diversity,divergence,ideology,equal/civil rights matters but also things like bigotry,controversy

controversy,discord only happens when a person doesn't agree with another's viewpoints

civil rights leaders were thought to be controversial,full of discord,and downright troublemakers because they said things that many people didn't like, that challenged their status quo.

I felt that Dr. Michael Brown gave the clue to Eris' meaning in that it has to do with matters involving "thinking that their opinions are right and others are wrong"

focusing on Eris as "just igniting discord" is missing the big picture about it's meaning imho

that's like saying Pluto is just the underworld because that's what the God was about. Of course, Pluto has other meanings besides that.

same with all the other objects in our solar system.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 07, 2009 01:38 PM         

Based on reading Zane Stein’s article and his keywords as well as Roy MacKinnon’s keywords and the charts that I have looked at, I believe that Eris has to do with stirring stuff up, controversy, ideology, civil/equal rights matters, standing up for self/others, advocacy, bigotry, racism, minorities, race relations, diversity, …..all those things are connected to each other too.

I don’t believe that Eris is just about discord and controversy. I think that there is more to it. That’s like saying Pluto is just about the underworld because Pluto/Hades is the God of the underworld. Juan Revilla made good points that we can’t just rely on the name of the object for its astrological meaning. Uranus personality traits fit more with Prometheus than the god, Uranus even though Uranus/Ouranos was the sky god. Neptune personality traits fit more with Dionysus/Bacchus even though Neptune was the sea god. I looked at some asteroid stuff in regards to that. Juan Revilla said that it’s important to consider the orbital symbolism of the objects. Philip Sedgwick takes into account the nodes and perihelion/aphelion of the object.

Astronomical-oriented astrologers including Philip Sedgwick, Juan Revilla, Zane Stein don’t rely on the name of objects to derive meaning from it.

Some of them suggested names to the astronomers that were accepted for some centaurs after studying their orbits, physical properties. Nessus was the first.
http://www.zanestein.com/page4_2.htm

this is what Philip Sedgwick said

Star Blogs ~ The Galactic Times

Planet With No Name (Yet) ~ 02 Feb 2008

“So if you were Neil Young traversing the desert night sky on a planet with no name, how could you derive any meaning for it? One, consider its nature, uniqueness and physical profile. Two, assign interpretive delineations by pondering the sign and degree of critical orbital elements, specifically the node and closest point the body makes to the Sun.”

the closest point of the object makes to the sun is called the Perihelion.

Here is some stuff by Juan Revilla who believes in the orbital symbolism should be used to determine an object’s astrological meaning and not the name.

ORBITAL SYMBOLISM IN ASTROLOGY
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/essays/paradigm.html

Zane Stein even added Persephone/Proserpina symbolism in his Eris keywords. Michael Brown wanted to name Eris “Persephone”, and he even said that it was like Persephone. He said that half of the time, Eris orbits away from Pluto. But the names, “Persephone” and “Proserpina” were given to asteroids. Obviously, astronomers gave mythological names too readily. Michael Brown did give the name Eris after all the discord among the astronomers. Methinks..that there could be astrologers in discord. Many astrologers don’t agree on many things in Astrology like orbs are hotly debated.

I was thinking how Ceres and Pluto are made equals in Astronomy because of the discovery of Eris, and how it can seem similar to how Pluto/Hades and Ceres/Demeter shared equal amount of time with Proserpina/Persephone.

Pluto got demoted to minor planet and assigned a minor planet number. Ceres got promoted to dwarf planet. Therefore, Pluto and Ceres are equals in astronomy. Pluto got the same treatment as Ceres. Ceres was classed as a planet but got it’s planetary status stripped after the realization that it is one of many objects in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Now Pluto’s planetary status is stripped after the realization that it is one of many objects in the Kuiper Belt. After they found Eris, the need to make a definition of what planet had to be made. Astronomers even hypothesize there could be a dozen Plutos out there and even some Mars-sized objects. Any ways…Ceres and Pluto were made equals because of Eris, and so that’s one of the reasons that I believe Eris has to do with equal rights, civil rights issues.. I am seeing Eris in civil rights, equal rights events….especially involving Black civil rights issues. Eris can be related to minority rights issues. Eris’ Perihelion is in Libra seems to reflect the equality, fairness, getting along that Eris seems to call for. Eris’ Aphelion in Aries seems to reflect the war, conflict, aggression, trouble that Eris is known for causing. Eris’ North Node in Taurus seems to reflect the solidarity. It can also be the stubbornness, materialism that often causes problems in society and creates division between people. Eris’ South Node in Scorpio seems to reflect the transformation, rebirth, but also revenge, resentment that often connection to division of humanity and linked to racism.

When I think of Eris, I think of taking sides, forced to decide between two things, torn between two factions, dilemmas, “If you are not with me, you are against me”, betrayal, resentment that happens after choosing a side, creating a bridge, narrowing the gap

Eris orbits beyond Saturn, and so it seems like it can relate to the metaphysical. It is a kuiper belt object like Pluto, and so it can seem to relate to intensity, transformation, and rebirth. Eris’ orbit is more unusual than Pluto for its not only it’s more elliptical, but it is tilted 44.187 degrees relative to the plane of the solar system. Pluto’s orbit is only inclined 17 degrees. That would reflect that Eris relates to being a nonconformist as well as being divergent.

Based on reading Zane Stein’s article and his keywords as well as Roy MacKinnon’s keywords and the charts that I have looked at, I believe that Eris has to do with stirring stuff up, controversy, ideology, civil/equal rights matters, standing up for self/others, advocacy, bigotry, racism, minorities, race relations, diversity, …..all those things are connected to each other too.

It could be racial relations stuff like the racial divide, interracial relationships, interracial marriages, interracial family

connections,and interracial parentage. It it could be the multiracial. It could even be international relations. It could be like tolerance/intolerance of divergence, diversity, minorities(not necessarily race, ethnic…but even religion, sexual orientation, etc). It’s the intolerance of divergents, diversity, minorities that lead to equal/civil rights issues.

Barack Obama is definitely a racial minority, he comes across as divergent to many, and he seems to believe in acceptance/tolerance of diversity by many(note:I didn’t say most nor all), he comes from a family background that is diverse. He’s a civil rights lawyer. Of course, he’s viewed as being Muslim by many people(note: I didn’t say most nor all). Of course,many Muslims are frowned upon here in USA. He also has a highly controversial minister who gets called racists after pointing out the racism here in USA that is even confirmed by the United Nations. Being biracial black and white,he was torn between the white and races like many biracial black and white people. Even in this day and age, “the one drop rule” is still in effect. A biracial people tend to have no choice but identify mainly with minority race because that’s how society will view them as….especially if they are part black. With him in the presidential race,the need to create a bridge between blacks and whites and deal with the race divide is very obvious.

Roy, Zane, Francisco, and Phil have some very good preliminary keywords for Eris, and they go well beyond discord. The Eris research that I did seem to support their keywords.

Roy MacKinnon’s Eris’ Keywords:

Striving to achieve one’s goals and refusing to capitulate to the pressure of unjust treatment and discord from abusive authority : with great inner conviction and single-mindedness of purpose following a path of high attainment and enlightenment notwithstanding adversity – alternatively refusing the call to transform with mediocrity and underachievement as consequences: issues around power abuse of minorities, the defenceless, the alien: networks, multinational countries and companies, the world- wide web: piracy, terrorism, clash of ideologies: conflict between desires of personality and pursuit of the inner call: persecution of the spiritually aware person who stands alone courageously acting according to conscience: an outstanding individual ahead of the times.

Zane Stein’s Eris Keywords:

Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child’s trauma being separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a debate, argument, competition, conflict or war…what stirs people to fight or disagree; fighting for one’s rights; strife and discord; pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a competition, dispute or conflict, or one’s perspective of what is being fought over; refusing to relinquish one’s hold on an ideal, belief, cause, or object…’not budging an inch’; the problems resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic; identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles; incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box; the ethics connected with one’s motives and methods, and the coming to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one’s motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society’s ethics; race intent.

Francesco Schiavinotto’s Keywords:

Dam; Damming; Obstruction; Obliteration; To be opposite; Aversion for the Extraneous; To obstacle the Alien; False Adaption between Different Matters; Reciprocal Aversion; Feeling to be Invaded; Resistance; Incommunicability; Controversial Figure; Ecological Incompatibility; Underground Instability

It’s Eris’ Co-Discoverer, Michael Brown that seemed to give the clue to Eris’ meaning

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong, ” Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” )
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V126/N38/38shorts2.html

That seems to fit with controversy,ideology,diversity,divergence,considerate/inconsiderate of viewpoints/opinions/beliefs/values,bigotry,terrorism, redefining boundaries)……Honestly, I think that it not only fits with any belief system but also even Astrology(look at how much diversity is in Astology that involves so much disagreement that even Steven Forrest ,who has Moon conjunct Eris, refers to the issue as Tower Babel and stated that the idea of “One True Astrology” is a myth and destructive). I even think that Eris might even be a co-ruler of Astrology.

The Tower of Babel applies to the whole planet in general for there is much diversity with much intolerance,miscommunications,and misunderstandings.

Many Christians used the Tower of Babel story in the Bible as an excuse for segregation,interracial marriage bans

for example:

In June 1958, two residents of Virginia, Mildred Jeter, a Negro woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, were married in the District of Columbia pursuant to its laws. Shortly after their marriage, the Lovings returned to Virginia and established their marital abode in Caroline County. At the October Term, 1958, of the Circuit Court of Caroline County, a grand jury issued an indictment charging the Lovings with violating Virginia’s ban on interracial marriages. On January 6, 1959, the Lovings pleaded guilty to the charge and were sentenced to one year in jail; however, the trial judge suspended the sentence for a period of 25 years on the condition that the Lovings leave the State and not return to Virginia together for 25 years. He stated in an opinion that:

“Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)[1], was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court declared Virginia’s anti-miscegenation statute, the “Racial Integrity Act of 1924″, unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

In Eris’ discovery chart, Moon in 10′57
Scorpio in 7th house square Babel in 9′31 Leo in 5th which seems to fit the issues dealing with interracial relationships as well as their offspring.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/ErisDiscoveryAstrology.gif

Tower of Babel seems to fit with Eris.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 07, 2009 02:16 PM         

I disagree

Peri chastised me and others and accused me of stuff, and I felt that I had to defend myself set the record straight with her and others that have the same views as her in regards to the situation that led me to leave the forum for awhile as the victim stuff that I was accused of trying to portray myself to be.

I am the one that needs to give a rebuttal or retort for anything that I disagree with ....especially when it comes to my character. I have always been that way. I have the right to defend myself. Everybody else has the right.

Therefore, I created this thread.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 07, 2009 06:41 PM         

Of course, your explanations come from an event that is connected to another person, and you will identify the person, the event and then explain your perspective without slinging unnecessary put-downs around.

Here is the difference put in an example:

"You hurt my feelings with that comment. You have no right. You're a fiend".

My feelings were hurt by your comment. I've thought about it and this is why I hurt".

Many of us 'bump' into each other here. It's going to happen due to the nature of people. When the 'bumping' becomes consistent with one person, it's warning us that something dysfunctional is occurring. Otherwise, it's just a natural event that can happen from time to time. People have an amazing resilience to get over hurt from others. Relationships are in a constant state of flux at all times.

I'm glad you've expressed yourself. You seem to do it for self-advocacy reasons and there's nothing wrong with that.

posted July 07, 2009 09:39 PM         

Also, I've accepted the maxim that nobody's perfect. If people can accept my imperfections & mistakes, then I make a sincere and determined effort to accept the imperfections & mistakes of others. The way I see it, life chews us all up, and we're all just doing the best we can...and in an imperfect world, we're simply not going to be perfect. And we all have our strengths (or we wouldn't have survived) to go along with our weaknesses.

posted July 08, 2009 06:56 AM         

I'm proud to call you my friend.

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She gets misunderstood too. All she does is try to raise awareness about Lupus. She doesn't ask for sympathy nor compassion for herself. She just wants understanding for herself and others like her.

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civil rights leaders were thought to be controversial,full of discord,and downright troublemakers because they said things that many people didn't like, that challenged their status quo.

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Valus

sun 13'54 scorpio
eris 13'53 aries

posted July 09, 2009 03:18 AM         

Thanks Valus for your understanding and your very touching words. You totally see the big picture of what I am about,what I have done,what I am doing,and what I will be doing in the future. Yes...I am definitely on a mission. I feel that my life purpose is to be a neurodiversity advocate. It took me a long time to realize that. I had to understand,accept,and embrace my neuro-divergent conditions,my and be open about them and my special education experiences (not be in the closet) before I could realize my life purpose. I feel that all my life experiences prepared me for it.
I even see my history of special education experiences(including misplacement with the mentally retarded and psychiatric misdiagnoses as part of the preparation for neurodiversity.

I believe that my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conjunct South Eris Node in 5'30 Scorpio in 2nd is all about neuro-diversity advocacy. I believe my retro Eris in 12'14 Aries in 8th sextile 11'14 Midheaven points to a career involving equal rights advocacy.

Even Sabian Symbol 12 Gemini is
The Negro Girl That Fights For Independence In the City.

I recently found out that National Organization for Women (NOW) was founded on October 29th, 1966. That's exactly 5 years before I was born,and so it has Sun was conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio.
I am a member of NOW too, and so I do support women's rights.

As you know, equal rights advocates have always tended to be as controversial,stirring stuff up,and full of discord by people who don't agree with their views. Those people who don't want things to change. The people that cling onto the status quo which equal rights advocates challenge.
I know that as a neuro-diversity advocate, I will be disliked by many...especially when I concentrate and speak out about things like inadequate education/the need for education reform because auditory sequential teaching methods don't help many neurodivergents learn, psychiatric misdiagnosing/the need for mental health reform, neurodivergents being misdiagnosed as having psychiatric disorders, neurodivergent conditions of racial minorities (especially blacks) being overlooked/misdiagnosed, pointing out that multiple choice reading tests aren't good tests to test for reading ability.

Last January, I decided that I wanted to form a non profit neurodiversity organization here in the USA. Warren Fried has Dyspraxia,and he formed Dyspraxia USA organization. Therefore, I don't see why I can't do something similar.

I want to put a lot of emphasis on non-drug alternative remedies like herbs,massage/bodywork,aromatherapy,biofeedback,vitamins/minerals,meditation,audio-visual stimulation,Davis methods,color therapy,and other things. I want to help with preventing misdiagnosing too....especially misdiagnosed as having certain psychiatric disorders which can lead to be given medications that aren't needed. The symptoms of neurodivergence overlap quite a bit with psychiatric disorders.
For instance, poor coordination,left/right confusion,problems with memory/concentration,speech problems are not just symptoms of disorganized type of schizophrenia but also dyspraxia. I also want to raise better awareness and understanding of Dyslexia. Too many people think it's a visual processing problem, but most have auditory,phonological processing problems and that's recognized by International Dyslexia Association.

The main thing is that I want to stress that having a different type of mind doesn't mean having a deficient mind. We are not retarded,stupid,nor crazy for having an "outside the box" type of mind. I want to stress the importance of early intervention therapies like I had. Of course, I won't stop stressing the need for education reform. It is strongly needed. We neurodivergents need to be taught in a multisensory way. We can't be taught by just auditory sequential teaching methods that are used in most schools.

I am seeing a shaman healer named Steve Flores who also happens to be a neurodivergent with a history of being in special education classes just like I was. He's helping me deal with my insecurities and anger from my past. It's not easy either,but I have been trying. I admit the critical thinker in me gets in the way at times with the shaman healing. There is a strong skeptic in me in regards to metaphysical that conflicts with the strong spiritual side of me.

I have become a member of Spiritual Life Center interfaith unity church that I feel very much at home in. I am going to use volunteer work through the church as a stepping stone to forming the nonprofit neurodiversity organization. I already told Senior Minister Reverend Michael Moran and others in the church about intentions. Reverend Moran told me that he has a type of Dyslexia in math and that he had a math waiver in college. Spiritual Life Center was also a presenter of CHILDREN OF THE NEW EARTH CONFERENCE which was all about neurological differences,Indigo/Crystal concept,psychiatric diagnoses/medications as education and solutions. Therefore, I know that I am in the right place.
Many advocates had roots in churches. Civil Rights leader,Martin Luther King Jr. was Christian Baptist minister. Quakers were involved in Abolutionism. Social Justice/activism is a big part of the Unitarian Universalism. Women's Rights Activist, Susan B. Anthony. My spiritual beliefs with New Age,New Thought,and Unitarian Universalism.

I want to use the Law of Attraction to form the nonprofit neurodiversity organization. In the videos on THE SECRET,they stressed that it's not about just having a desire and focusing on it , but also coming up with a plan and taking action on it. That's what I am doing.
Joined a church/volunteering, create neuro-diversity meetup group.

I already have been offered an opportunity by web marketer who is promoting new online neuro-sensory training after seeing my neuro-diversity group ad on craigslist. He is building a community for adult learning differences and parents of children with learning differences ,and wants me to be involved in it such as a moderator.He figured that would help further my goals and his...so a win-win.
I have told him that I am interested too. I am looking forward to it.

I am going to start Neuro-Diversity Meetup group
this weekend.

This will be the description of the group

Neuro-Diversity Meetup Group

This meetup group is to raise awareness about neuro-divergence and promote neurodiversity. Neurodivergence will be looked at from the neurodivergent perspective which means that it will be looked at in a way that it's considered a variation of the human condition.

Anything that has to do with neuro-divergence will be open to discussion. It can be people just talking about their own neurodivergence and how it affects them and others. We will discuss how neurodivergence affects relationships. We will provide support,solutions,and resources. We want to help neurodivergents to understand their weaknesses and strengths of their neurodivergence.

Natural remedies for neurodivergent weaknesses will be discussed. Special education therapies like speech therapy,occupational therapy,and auditory therapy that correct neuro-divergent weaknesses will also be discussed. We will discuss how to utilize neuro-divergent strengths and how they can be applied to certain activities and occupations.

Indigo,Crystal will also be discussed. They seem to be New Age terms for neuro-divergence. We will discuss various views about the concept of Indigo,Crystal and whether it applies to certain generations or if it applies to certain individuals of all ages.

Topics To Be Discussed:

Neurodiversity/Neurodivergence
Dyslexia
Dyspraxia
Dyscalculia
Aspergers Syndrome
Autism
Tourette Syndrome
Pervasive Developmental Disorder
Sensory Integration Disorder
Learning Disorders
Special Education/Therapies
Psychiatry,Psychology
Neuropsychological Testing
Neurological Testing
Psychological Testing
Psychiatric Medications
Montessori Schools
Waldorf Schools
Multisensory Teaching/Learning
Ronald D. Davis method
Cerebellar Vestibular Syndrome Theory
Vitamins/Minerals
Omega 3 Fatty Acids
Essential Oils
Herbs
Color Therapy
Edison Gene/Hunter Theory (Thom Hartmann), DRD4 7R Gene in regards to ADHD
Indigo,Crystal,Rainbow Theory
Myers-Briggs/Kiersey Psychological Profile
Psychoacoustics
Audio-visual stimulation
Biofeedback
Meditation/Yoga
Psychiatry/Psychology
Overexcitabilities
The Highly Sensitive Person series (Elaine Aron, PhD)
and other things

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 09, 2009 03:33 AM         

NEURODIVERGENT EMPATHY PROGRAM by Raymond Andrews
an outline

Since many neuro-typical (normal neurological proessing) don't understand neuro-divergence, and can easily mistake neuro-divergent conditions as psychological problems/psychiatric disorders as well as even laziness,apathy,irresponsibility,stupidity, mental retardation,and/or not trying, I propose that a Neuro-divergent Empathy program be developed to help neuro-typicals understand neuro-divergence by simulation of neuro-divergent experiences

Visual processing problems - the use of 3D Optical Scanner.....speeding up a series of letters,words....so they can be blurry,make you dizzy to simulate visual processing issues. Dr. Harold N. Levinson uses one to detect visual processing problems. It could be used to overstimulate the eyes to induce visual processing issues. http://www.dyslexiaonline.com/information/testing.html

Auditory processing problems - the use of 3D Auditory Scanner as produce auditory overloading,speeding up a series of sounds,letters,words.....so they can be blurry,make you feel confused,dizzy to simulate auditory processing issues
Dr. Harold N. Levinson uses one to detect auditory processing problems. It could be used to overstimulate the ears to induce auditory processing issues.

Highly bright flourescent lights used to simulate oversensitivity to light

Highly loud sounds used to simulate oversensitivity to sound

Slapping on the hand and body to simulate oversensitivity to touch

Electric moving platform while standing,walking to simulate gross motor,balance problems

Field Sobriety Tests
determine possible intoxication of drivers stopped on suspicion. The tests varied widely: a driver might be asked to touch his or her finger to the nose, stand on one leg, or walk a straight line. No studies were available to determine the fairness of these tests. http://www.fieldsobrietytests.org/fieldsobrietytests.html

Here is my neurological tests and ENG tests by Dr. Harold N. Levinson in 2006
This consists of a series of standardized neurological tests commonly administered to assess the status of the integrated function of the cerebellar-vestibular (CV) system as well as other central nervous system (CNS) structures. Difficulties with any of these tests indicates a dysfunction within the CV or CNS systems.
The ENG is a standardized neurophysiological test in which eye movements are induced and measured under various testing conditions. Fine and reflexive eye movements are controlled by the cerebellum and the vestibular system. As a result, the ENG can help determine whether or not an inner-ear abnormality exists. http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_002 http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Dr_Levinson_exam_003

Here is my neurdlogical tests by Veteran Affairs neurologists http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Veteran_Affairs_Neurology_Assessment_and_Follow_Up_002 http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=Veteran_Affairs_Neurology_Assessment_and_Follow_Up_003

The same tests that are used for drunk driving are the same tests that are used to test for cerebellar vestibular dysfunction and neurological problems in general. Even the horizontal gaze nystgamus test is used to test for drunk driving,and that tests the eye coordination.
Therefore, people with neuro-divergent issues would fail the testing given to drunk drivers,and so they could be mistakened for being drunk. It seems that alcohol could also impair the cerebellar vestibular system.

DRUNK BUSTERS Impairment Goggles™ simulate effects of impairment, including reduced alertness, slowed reaction time, confusion, visual distortion, alteration of depth and distance perception, reduction of peripheral vision, poor judgement and decision making, double vision, and lack of muscular coordination. http://www.piplus.com.au/drunk_busters.htm

these symptoms are also symptoms of neuro-divergent issues)
If the drunk impairment goggles simulate effects of drunkeness, then then they can simulate neuro-divergent issues

Maybe we can come up with virtual reality program that simulates neuro-divergence in neurotypical people

Using virtual reality glasses - visual processing problems
headphones - auditory processing problems simulator
sensory gloves with biofeedback interaction to experience fine motor skill problems
moving platform to simulate gross motor skill problems

A 3Dimensional Screen with rapid moving stimuli to simulate issues with disorientation that can lead to confusion with directions as well as can lead to difficulty with body movements. Very Bright Screen to simulate problems with hypersensitivity to light

Symptoms of neurodivergent issues

Reading

* Memory instability for letters, words, or numbers.
* A tendency to skip over or scramble letters, words, and sentences.
* A poor, slow, fatiguing reading ability prone to compensatory head tilting, near-far focusing, and finger pointing.
* Reversals of letters such as b and d, words such as saw and was, and numbers such as 6 and 9 or 16 and 61.
* Letter and word blurring, doubling, movement, scrambling, omission, insertion, size change, etc.
* Poor concentration, distractibility, light sensitivity (photophobia), tunnel vision, delayed visual and phonetic processing, etc.

Writing

* Messy, poorly angulated, or drifting handwriting prone to size, spacing, and letter-sequencing errors.

Spelling, Math, Memory, and Grammar

* Memory instability for spelling, grammar, math, names, dates, and lists, or sequences such as the alphabet, the days of the week and months of the year, and directions.

Speech

* Speech disorders such as slurring, stuttering, minor articulation errors, poor word recall, and auditory-input and motor-output speech lags.

Direction

* Right/left and related directional uncertainty.

Time

* Delay in learning to tell time.

Concentration and Activity

* Impaired concentration, distractibility, hyperactivity, or overactivity

Behavior, Temper, or Impulse disturbances

Balance and Coordination

* Difficulties with balance and coordination functions, i.e., walking, running, skipping, hopping, tying shoelaces, and buttoning buttons.

Psychosomatics

* Difficulties with headaches, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, motion sickness, abdominal complaints, excessive sweating, and bed-wetting.

Self-esteem

* Feeling stupid, ugly, incompetent, brainless.

Phobias and Related Mood and Obsessive/Compulsive Disorders

* Fears of the dark, heights, getting lost, going to school.
* Fear or the avoidance of various balance, coordination, sports, and motion-related activities.
* Mood disturbances.
* Obsessions and compulsions. http://www.levinsonmedical.com/information/syndrome.html

DYSMETRIC DYSLEXIA AND DYSPRAXIA
Hypothesis and Study http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/ddd_study.pdf?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=4783406&dopt=Abstract

DYSMETRIC DYSLEXIA AND DYSPRAXIA:
synopsis of a continuing research project http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/ddd_synopsis.pdf

COMPENSATORY MECHANISMS IN CV-DYSFUNCTION,DYSMETRIC DYSLEXIA AND DYSPRAXIA http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/comp_mech_cv.pdf

THE CEREBELLAR-VESTIBULAR BASIS OF LEARNING DISABILITIES IN CHILDREN,ADOLESCENTS AND ADULTS:
Hypothesis and study http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/cv_basis_ld.pdf

THE DIAGNOSTIC VALUE OF CEREBELLAR-VESTIBULAR TESTS IN DETECTING LEARNING DISABILITIES,DYSLEXIA,AND ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/cv_tests.pdf

This is scientific papers that show that anxiety,mood disorder,and phobias aren't necessarily psychological(especially involving emotional weakness,a dysfunctional childhood) but could be stemming from cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction

A CEREBELLAR-VESTIBULAR EXPLANATION FOR FEARS/PHOBIAS:
Hypothesis and study http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/cv_fears.pdf

THE CEREBELLAR-VESTIBULAR PREDISPOSITION TO ANXIETY DISORDERS http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/cv_predis_anxiety.pdf

ABNORMAL OPTOKINETIC AND PERCEPTUAL SPAN PARAMETERS IN CEREBELLAR VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION AND RELATED ANXIETY DISORDERS http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/optokinetic_cv_anxiety.pdf

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 09, 2009 02:11 PM         

That's reflected by my packed 3rd house (Jupiter conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius and Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio) as well as Mercury conjunct the heliocentric South Mercury Node.

I also have Virgo Ascendant,Gemini Midheaven as well as retro Saturn in Gemini.

A mutual house ruler reception:
3rd house ruler(Pluto)is in 1st and 1st house ruler(Mercury)is in 3rd.

so very strong emphasis on communications for better or worse

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 10, 2009 08:20 AM         

I am beginning to truly appreciate your astrological insight, among other things.

Keep the faith, never let anyone bring you down. I'm sorry to hear that you often cry to yourself. No offense- I used to be that way.

Soldier on, you are a great source of inspiration

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.