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posted July 10, 2009 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cpn, stop it. hijack all you want.

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posted July 10, 2009 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting braveheart. I'm half and half. Fem and masc.

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posted July 10, 2009 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dervish, i can relate to a lot of what you said. Except I havent experienced the guy drama so much amongst guys i used to hang out with. I've seen it in other circles though and know what you mean.

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As just a few examples (speaking in broad general terms), they are quick to misinterpret innocent looks or merely friendly overtures as attempts at seduction (heck, plenty of guys seem to assume that if he's turned on by you, then you KNOW he's turned on,and therefore are doing it on purpose!)

Yes. I've experienced this one alot too. Ick.

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Though offhand, if you get along with guys so well, maybe it seems like women are more catty because they assume that you're messing with her man?

Yes, they often jump to that conclusion which i find sad because it tells more about them than me. I never go after men, even if i am interested (which is rare). I let them come to me always. I think it's a Venus thing. And if they are in a relationship and they try coming on to me - forget it. It's all over. I lose all respect for the person. Usually it's the woman's own insecurity and it's frustrating because i am not interested in "taken" men and i'm not interested in most "free" men either. Most of the time i dont care to be with anyone. Of course i cant expect females to know this. Some women dont care if i guy is taken or not though, so i guess i can understand where that comes from on the other woman's part. But seriously, have a little confidence in your relationship and self too. Just because you love your boyfriend and think he's the greatest doesnt mean every other woman does and wants him too.

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posted July 10, 2009 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Going along with that, some girls get along with boys better because they can manipulate & control them much easier (which makes them feel safer & more secure, manipulating such "simple people"), whereas other females see right through them and their tricks. I've actually been told this by a couple of women in all candor, btw, as well as heard enough women (which would include myself) who are vigilant against such women around any guy they care about (including sons, brothers, etc).

I know a couple of these types too. I don't know how some guys fall for it. Sometimes I think they are just desperate for a relationship.

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And in my case, I'm much more likely to be annoyed (and occasionally frightened) by aggressive interest,

Same here. It's there for both or it isnt. Stop acting obsessed. And learn how to take a hint. Some really aggressive types don't seem to care if they are making you uncomfortable or not - don't stop to think about it or watch for the signals. They are usually the first to accuse you of flirting.

I agree with what you said about some guys being nicer towards woman than other woman are or nicer towards certain women than they are with others or with men. I see right through it and don't like that either.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I always love reading them.

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posted July 10, 2009 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

T: about the male/fem signs.
my son has more female and my daughters all have more male. maybe it's to even out the hormones. i don't know.

dervish: that you want to live on a farm, plus hunt and fish sounds terrific.

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posted July 10, 2009 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow interesting, braveheart!

that made me think of my big three....all feminine...
but then i've got Moon square Venus and Sun square Saturn
wondering if that plays into me prefering singlehood over anything...for the most part....

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posted July 11, 2009 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One time a pack of teenage boys followed my little brother home to beat him up. He was terrified, I mean who wouldn't be! I was 5-6 years older, and I said, "lemme handle this" I went into the garage, grabbed a snow shovel, channelled hidden rage, and opened the front door screaming and swinging the shovel! haha, you shoulda seen the look on their faces as they ran away! It was priceless.
A few years later, when he was a bit older, in his late teens, and I was in my early twenties, he was messin with somebodys girlfriend.
So again, a pack of them come to my parents house in a vehicle, honking and screaming, saying what they were gonna do, this time I told him, he needed to help me.
We went into the garage, I got a tire iron, and he got a giant wrench, we waited by a bush and when they rounded the corner we attacked, screaming and beating the crap outta the car with our tools!!! I don't know why this is still funny! It is violent and awful, but that was my baby brother! If it had been one dude than it would have been his problem, but a gang!

Anyway, our cancer step-dad was sort of hiding in the living room.
I said "what are you doing?" He said "trying to decide WHO exactly to call the cops on!" haha. They didn't bother him any more either. But we did get a reputation for being a "crazy" family. Oh well.

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posted July 11, 2009 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herz_Aus_Stein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a soft andro so yes i'm naturally mildly boyish. shopping for clothes is a difficult, depressing and frustrating task. i'd rather sit in the pub! when i find something i like i come back and pick up 1 more [blouse or trousers, or shoes even], or 10 just so i won't be going shopping for another few years. really. luckily most of my clothes still fit after 20 years lol.

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t - you are one cool chick!

most of my "girlfriends" are 15 to 20 years older than me and women i respect, so i havent been in the chit chat paddywhack girly stuff, well, pretty much ever.

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posted July 12, 2009 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a very girly girl, but up to my teens didn't care too much about how I looked (with the innocence of youth) and was forever getting called "ugly" by the girls at the single-sex school I went to - they wouldn't ever accept me because they thought I was too different, and I have to say I eventually came to see them as rather unintelligent, silly and pathetic. I went there until I was 14 and my parents allowed me no contact with any boys until I moved to a mixed school, which was very frustrating for me as I hated the other girls and hated my mother (with some justification).

I think both sexes look at women negatively, but there is a reason for this. Men are just more open and confident and good at doing activities (such as hobbies or pursuits) together, they are more risk-taking. For example, I connect with a lot of men through music. I also design fashion acessories, ostensibly for women, yet I get the most enthusiastic support from straight men (NOT gay men or women) - which is really ironic since I'm supposed to be designing for women!. Maybe this might be because my designs are off the wall - men will go for something that grabs attention and would be good for advertising, whereas most women will go for something that fits in with what everybody else is wearing. I have never ever managed to get female support for my endeavours. I find them very closed off - I've been to all-female networking events and there's, um, just such a MINIMUM of jokes and horsing around - they're so bloody serious and worrying what people will think of them, and it's so difficult to strike up a proper conversation - or whatever conversation there is doesn't really go anywhere. I think this is the problem I had in school - I just couldn't connect with the girls, whereas with the boys there was immediate understanding. Jolly good job I'm not a lesbian!!! (in my experience they are EVEN more difficult to talk to than straight women!)

My ex-husband (who got on better with women than men) used to say to me that I have a "male brain" - maybe 'cos I'm an Aries? I also identify very much with my father, who is also an Aries, and whom I have always got on better with than my mother. I do seek to model myself on him rather than her as I've always seen him as positive (despite his faults) and her as negative, unsociable, depressed, never moving to make a situation better, expecting the man to cater to stuff in "the world outside".

I have perhaps 1 female friend that I see on a regular basis, and I'm friends with her because she is very independent-minded (she's a Scorp - the other female friend that I'm in semi-regular contact with is an Aries). I just don't think women are up for socialising and keeping in contact as much as men. I didn't use to like my peers very much, but now I'm in my 30s most of my contemporaries have calmed down and are much more interesting people because of their life experiences. And I find men (in their 30s and 40s) remarkably lucid and honest about their desires and feelings.

I sometimes wonder why women hang around with other women, and what exactly it is that their friendships are based on, and what they actually talk about (it usually seems to be "man" problems). Some female friends have a tendency to be clones of each other - maybe they feel a safety in looking alike. I personally don't trust women as much as I do men, and I also don't have any desire for homemaking or having children at all. And I actually find that most straight men in London like clothes (or other) shopping much more than I do, so I might just as well go with a bloke as a girl!!

My 7th house is empty - but it's slap bang in the middle of 2 very full houses!

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posted August 18, 2019 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Aries and Venus in Aries are typical tomboy placements for women in my opinion.

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