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Dee
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posted October 13, 2009 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
Just had to vent. after he spend many years as an an alcoholic. he switched pastimes and is now addicted to prescription drugs. I know he is bipolar. but he constantly od's himself and finds ways to get extra scripts he dosen't need. he has been in bed since Saturday except to get up a few times to take his pills. This isn't the first time this happened. Im at the point i hope he just Kills Himself
Meds
Abilify
Lexapro
Carisoprodo
Depakote
Alprazolam this is the one he really abuses
And these are the ones i know about who knows there can be more

No use complaining to his doctors. their just concerned that he quits smoking.

I'm at my end he's 50 and most people take him for mid 60's.

I think also he is in the early stages of brain damage. just by the way he acts and i think he's giving it to himself with all these drugs.

Just had to get that out

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hippichick
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posted October 13, 2009 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
addictions are addictions, no matter what the choice of addiction is.

sex, food, money, alcohol, drugs, exercise, work etc...

no difference.

i LOATHE pop psychology for replacing one addiction with another.

i have the same opinion regarding "aa" just re-focuses one's addictions.

till the individual comes to terms with the root cause of the addiction, the addictive personality will always be such... addicted.

i hear ya, dee, been there done that with many, many folks in my life.

tis frusterating.

comes a time when you have to do what is good for you and just trust another is on his/her own path.

blessings

t~~~

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koiflower
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posted October 13, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Gee, that's tough Dee. Living with folk with a 'condition' can take a toll on family members.

I'm just popping out. but will be back later today...

Love to you

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GypseeWind
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posted October 13, 2009 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
I'm so sorry D, I have dealt with this issue for so long with family, friends, and S.O's.

You know that no one will change unless they want to. No amount of love will fix something that is broken in someone else.

But I am reminded of a loved one who was abusing prescriptions drugs and what was done was, the family contacted all the possible physicians and pharmacies that the lady was going to, and told them of the things she was doing. They put her name in the computer and that really put a damper on her being able to get the scripts.

Also at my docs office ( I worked there for a year, a year ago) she has random drug testing for people on controlled substances. If your called you have to come in and take a urine test. If the levels are too high (as in your over using your meds) or they are not there (as in your selling your meds) then the doctor takes certain actions from that point.

I was there when she dismissed patients or called the police on them, it wasn't pretty.
If your husbands physician doesn't have this practice in place, perhaps you could suggest that he/she do it for your husband.

Hippa laws prevent the physician from discussing your husbands case with you, but not from you discussing it with them, and I have found that in the case of spouses, they tend to bend the rules of HIPPA.

I wish I knew what to tell you, but I don't know much about your situation. I do know from a whole life of experience that being co-dependant on someone else's addictions is nearly as bad as being the actual addict.

I wish you all the best, and will pray for you and your family.
There is always hope and always help if you reach out.
Good Luck and God bless you.

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katatonic
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posted October 13, 2009 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
sad to hear, dee. i know what you mean and he is DEFINITELY not alone...the pharms don't care how strung out people get, just like the dealers!

when i was younger i took pretty much everything that came my way. lucky for me i don't have a particularly addictive personality, i managed not to go too far down any of those roads.

by the time i was 40 i was pretty moderate in my substance use, but my mother and sister were strung out on prescriptions...my sis has a pain patch, after managing to get off the anti-deps etc...my mother had prednizone, pain pills, you name it. she could hardly keep track of them!

they weren't technically abusing these drugs but they were more dependent on them than i ever was on morphine or any of the other famous "one taste and you're on the road.." drugs.

it's not easy once you get on, and the doctor tells you you'll be in danger without them...

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posted October 13, 2009 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message

I'm sorry Dee.

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T
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posted October 13, 2009 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry Dee.

This is a very hard situation to be in....for both of you.

I don't know what you should do...
Maybe you just needed to vent. Ive lived with a number of addicts and know how difficult that can be. You must be feeling immense saddness, anger, helplessness. Deep down, he probably is too.

Send loving thoughts to him if you can. That will be more beneficial to the both of you. He is clearly not in a very good place. Miracles happen. Addictions to prescription painkillers is a very serious issue and he probably wont be able to get a handle on it without major professional help.

Love and strength to you and him.

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Dee
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posted October 13, 2009 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
thank you all for responding. Yes T what i really feel is hopeless and i did need to vent. its not easy he's his own worst enemy

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posted October 14, 2009 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message


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posted October 14, 2009 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you could just go lay down with him and put your arm around him...even if he's sleeping..and not say anything...just be there with him. I don't know if you would be able to do that (or want to) with the way you are feeling right now, but it was just a thought.

Much Love to you.

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posted October 14, 2009 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
I'm at the end of my compassion for him T i have been through it all with him

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posted October 14, 2009 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
I've been there. Sometimes people suck you dry and the answers arent always easy to find. I'm glad venting helped to ease your pain a little bit and hope things start to get better for you and you find the healing you need. (((hugs)))

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posted October 14, 2009 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you T

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koiflower
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posted October 14, 2009 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Dee, is your husband aware how his choices are having a huge impact?

It's no easy task to solve this one. I'm so glad you didn't say 'I feel like killing myself'. You have a great sense of self-preservation. That's a good place to start.

Your husband has options. AA and counselling are just starters. I really like GypseeWind's doctor idea. But really, you really living with someone who needs to acknowledge some truths. There is hard work ahead of him. Is he aware of any consequences at all?

Have you thought of support for yourself? Counselling to work out what you do from here? Is leaving an option?

I don't envy you. This is a tough one. But we are here for you

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SunChild
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posted October 14, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I've been there D, (with an alcoholic) with same behavior type. I ran out of compassion, sucked dry, became numb, had to walk away. I've been labelled cold and cruel, until now. He is now happier without me in his life- he was unhappy with his old life. He is now gay, living and breathing, going to AA still, seeing a psychologist but is living his life more than he was before, still has the addiction, but not as severe as when we were together.

I feel for you

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Dee
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posted October 15, 2009 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
koi, my husband dosen't like to face the impact he is having on me and my daugter. when he is feeling better his answer is always the same its in the past now i don't want to talk about it. that's his way sticking his head in the sand.
He has been to AA and counselling. Many support groups. he has more help that ten people. as far as consequences he never thinks of them. I do want to leave as soon as i can figure out a way out. I always said i want to be able to leave and never have to go back.Its just not an option now. I can't for many reasons

SunChild. it's funny you mention your husband is Gay. i have many reasons to believe mine is also.
On a totally different note as i started typing this response my light here in the living room is flickering and making weird clicking noises and my computer is weirding out

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Dee
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posted October 15, 2009 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
And also maby because of what he's putting me through i contacted my ex and we have been in constant communication

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posted October 15, 2009 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Dee

I'm really sorry for your hurt. There's not much I can offer you in terms of advice. I know this one from the perspective of the child. In time I ran out of compassion for my parents too. The compassion shifts, from them to yourself. There's only so much you can actually do when they aren't willing to help themselves. And there's only so much you can put up with. So, for you - sending you love.

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posted October 15, 2009 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you PA,Your so right the compassion only goes so far. some people are energy vampires.

It still amazes me how much help he has had always a second third and temth chance.

He has had more help that anyone i know.i i'm at my limit something has to give

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posted October 15, 2009 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
From my experience, they are master manipulators. Brilliant at playing on the guilt and emotions of others, and extracting sympathy. It feeds them. It's awful. Somehow they aways seem to get away with presenting themselves as these great victims when they are the ones inflicting pain upon others. I'm tired of seeing people act the sympathy part and get away with it. It's frustrating. They don't care about anyone else, no matter what they say. Sometimes even the more they say. The actions and words don't match. They only care about themselves and are master liars at getting what they want.

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koiflower
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posted October 19, 2009 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Dee - I hope you're okay

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Dee
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posted October 20, 2009 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
I'm just coming out of a week from hell i hope it's on the way to getting better

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posted October 20, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Dee

PA, you described my ex, perfectly!

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koiflower
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posted October 20, 2009 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Relationships can really wreck people's lives. Have you moved any closer to your own personal solution?

I'm glad it's getting better (until next time, I assume). Use that time as a refresher and start making inquiries about how to change your life!

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Dee
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posted October 20, 2009 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
He started coming around enogh to call his doctors. They told him to call the Help line because they can't move up his appointents any closer that the tenth of november.I called his mother amd light a fire under her only because i knew if would freak him out enough that we were in cahoots.

It worked but its only a temporary solution as i try to find out how to straighten out my life. I have so many other things going on right now such as my lease is up next month and i might have to try to find a new place to move to again. My landlord might be selling this house.And besides me and my daughter i have pets that makes it harder to find a place.

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