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Topic: Don't be afraid of 2012
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lionseye*** Knowflake Posts: 333 From: edmonton, ab. ca Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 12:52 AM
There has been so much speculation, talk and worry about the dreaded December 21st, 2012 - And as usual, the fear is unfounded. At least that's what I believe. I really don't think mankind will ever be snuffed out, because this plane of existance offers such a rich and diverse learning field, and because we don't just exist randomly. We have protective forces around us, mandated by our creator. We do, however, need to get our selves in order, mainly our spirits. We don't have to be perfect, but we need to move in the right direction. We all know what that means, without elaboration. I suggest checking out the links regarding channelling of the subject on page three of this blog. Fascinating stuff. You will end up going back to it again and again if you're anything like me. And I know some of you are http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977607739 IP: Logged |
lionseye*** Knowflake Posts: 333 From: edmonton, ab. ca Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 12:53 AM
And for the more skeptical... http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html IP: Logged |
Dervish Knowflake Posts: 625 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 05:22 AM
But we all die, people have died on a massive scale from natural disasters (let alone manmade ones) and all ages seem to come to an end with mass extinctions. So why couldn't the divine forces protecting us also not leave us to die according to nature, or even mandate our deaths, as has been done over & over again? Or are we unique for some reason? Or have the gods protecting us only recently come into existence, and while they'll allow a few thousands to millions die at a time, won't allow us all to die (and if so, why do you think that is)?IP: Logged |
Dervish Knowflake Posts: 625 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 05:31 AM
Having looked at the links, just couple of more questions:It's true EOTWAWKI scenerios are a bust over & over again...but so are the claims of second comings, ascensions, etc. If we're to deduce that 2012 won't be the end of the world based on the failure of past doomsday predictions to happen, why not deduce that the "ascension" also won't happen as those have always been a bust, too? (Just in case you say something like "Atlantis was a time of ascension," I'd remind you that we don't really know that...it COULD have been a doomsday, too.) Second: quote: "Accountability" means that all of this is now about to come to an end. You can see it around you. One of President Obama's first acts was to issue Executive Orders that restored constitutional freedoms.
What is meant by this? He's not only kept Bush's policies (especially regarding "the war on terrorism," with the USA Patriot Acts, etc) going strong, he's increased them. So what does the article mean by this? (Actually, given that he's part of the elite, that would only make sense given their other assertions--and that if he really issued Executive Orders contrary to the will of the NWO that he'd already be another assassination, at least according to other assertions of the article, and certainly wouldn't be the darling that he is of so many mainstream media owned by the NWO.) Bonus Question: What power does the NWO have over who gets awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? IP: Logged |
lionseye*** Knowflake Posts: 333 From: edmonton, ab. ca Registered: May 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 05:45 AM
I have a million questions too. I just keep going back to the channelling links, and oddly enough, the topic I'm curious about shows up, even if I just ramdomly click on the topics. Makes it more curious and interestering for me when that happens. I may be crazy, I realize this.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 09:50 AM
stupid people need to stop having so many kids, thats the main problem.IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9742 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 11:09 AM
I agree with NASA http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html Additionally this bit reminds me of the Millenia Madness of 1,000 CE. quote: This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.
Don't get your end of the world; then change the date and or make up another date. As to IF there were anything to it all...well let the foolish go the the cosmic bug zapper/the light/the energy recycler. Maybe with idiots gone, their identities gone, their soul energy purged of them, just pure mindless energy, can be recycled for useful purposes; the world will become better and less populated and less strain on the natural resources of the planet.
------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*> IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 1910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 02:53 PM
too many influences here; give up your tv and stop the brainwashing. to be honest, if the world was ending, it wouldn't be such a problem seeing in which state it's in. more seriously, we "knowflakes" have enough to have internet, a roof, love and people to share it. we have jobs to feed us; we are the 5% of the priviledged before the french revolution while 95% of the world population suffers to eat, to have a job, to provide for their loved ones. if we consider ALL the people of the developped countries to be financially sorted, that would be a small percentage of the world pop. US +/- 300 millions, same for europe, may be 150 millions in japan, a few dozens millions in autralia and other small parts of developped countries and u have a total of 15% or 20% of the world population financially sorted. right it's not the 5% of duke and duchess of before the revolution But not every european or american is financially secure; i don't know if u see them, but i see homeless. so 20% is a optimistic. i'm not for reducing, let the rich be rich, i mean the VERY rich, but let's do something for the 80% left including next door. if we were to die, we should be doing something for others. or just keep watching tv, waiting... IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 04:29 PM
good rant pireIP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 4655 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 05:24 PM
I was interested in reading your link until I read "NESARA" in it. quote: If one looks from today forward, then you could say I am watching a number of events, generally known as Accountability, NESARA, First Contact, and Ascension. There will be a period of perhaps two to three years between First Contact and Ascension.
NESARA is such a hoax and dupped so many. I used to read the NESARA site just to see how they shifted their feet and story line when their predictions failed to occur. Anyhow, I am more in line with the NASA site and thank you for it as it has some interesting info!! juni ------------------ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 8708 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 10:26 PM
well i'm not worried about 2012. but you won't catch me sailing over the horizon!! i hear the earth is flat and you just drop off into space!!!IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 03, 2009 11:05 PM
lol Kat I heart youIP: Logged |
lionseye*** Knowflake Posts: 333 From: edmonton, ab. ca Registered: May 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 03:35 AM
You know...I just don't know what to think. I am getting anxious about all the 2012 talk to be honest, and I set out to find something less "doomsday dread", because I just can't except that we are in for total annihilation. I do have a feeling something important will happen, but I don't know what. The idea that we will make contact with E.T. is rather intriguing to me. But where we go from there, I don't know. We could be the prey or we could be saved from ourselves. Our planet could be restored and we could learn how to stop abusing it without giving up our ability to travel quickly, heat our homes, produce food in winter, etc. I'm afraid but at he same time, full of faith. I don't know anymore. I'm just going to follow my instincts I guess, and hope they lead me correctly. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 1910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 11:39 AM
brilliant post lionseye***, I itIP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 12:03 PM
To quote DepT, first we have 2010 and 2011. Better to enjoy them than to spend them agonising over what 2012 might bring. IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 578 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 02:36 PM
i found this on another astrology site. i'm not really into mayan astrology or 2012 stuff for whatever reason, but i scanned this thread and thought you might find it interesting: http://noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?PHPSESSID=5fb0d76a86c2cf41dac05fe04fb1f 500&topic=1560.0 IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 8708 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 03:21 PM
the most positive spin i have seen is from drunvalo melchizedek, who gets his info from the indigenous peoples he has been working with for decades. i don't completely trust anyone's input on this subject and i like that HE always qualifies what he says by pointing out we won't know till it happens if they are right, but the mayan calendar doesn't actually end on 2012...just that particular written version of it.also the mayans say we are in a window of 7-8 years they call the "end of time" and it started in oct 07. they claim to have survived TWO global deluges and to be descended from the atlanteans. they also say many people will panic and their panic will be what does them in. BEAR IN MIND that the reason the spanish took over mexico so easily is that the indigenous people mistook them for the returning quetzalcoatl and his people because they were white and because of the way they were dressed, with fancy headgear etc. the natives laid down their arms and offered to SERVE the invaders! so the prophecies of the elders are not infallible and are easily misinterpreted even by themselves... IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9742 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2009 09:32 PM
quote: the prophecies of the elders are not infallible and are easily misinterpreted even by themselves...
TRUE! I went into some depth about that here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000009.html ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*> IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 86 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 05, 2009 06:48 PM
if something like that (the astronomical event taking place on Dec12, 2012) leads to the end of us, we all know from our astrology studies that any planetary aspect begins to feel way before the planetary event becomes exact. Especially a planetary event that happens so slowly and only every 28 000 years. The end of earth cannot and will not possibly happen on one single day. If anything, we would start to feel the effect way earlier before it becoms exact. We should have started to feel it now....IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 5347 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2009 01:09 PM
Personally,I do not fear the year 2012 or believe it will be the end.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 4655 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2012 10:17 AM
Mid August and counting down.... Charm, nor do I! ------------------ As Angels above guide Human beings, Human Beings have the opportunity to be Angels on Earth, who guide the Animal kingdom. - Da Vinci IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 5347 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2012 10:35 AM
------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
Linda GoodmanIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 21125 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2012 12:35 PM
I will bet anyone here $100 that the world doesn't end this year. A very safe bet for me.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1474 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 14, 2012 03:54 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 21125 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2012 04:50 PM
We will make it to 2013. Count on it.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |