posted February 26, 2010 10:40 AM         

I am sure many of you have heard about the latest death of a trainer at Sea World.

I will not go into details, this has been so media-covered I am assuming you all know of this.

My problem, we can put to death dogs (Pit Bulls, etc), Lions, Tigers (who have been kept in captivity) Apes in zoos, etc. etc. etc. Even a human for killing, but why does this particular whale get to live after contirbuting to the deaths of 3 humans???

Now, see, I live in the front yard of Sea World of San Antonio, and have been there multiple times. Really, the edges of my neighborhood boarder the front parking of Sea World.

Depending on which way the wind is blowing, I can go outside and hear the seals beagging for their evening food, I used to enjoy the Clydesdales being transported to and fro on the streets near me, but since Bud sold out the horses have gone...The downside is the concerts they have there, on occasion. Too loud too late. But I do enjoy the fireworks!!!

So the whales, etc, I look upon as neighbors. Not always welcome neighbors, but quite the novelty living within walking distance of so many Marine mammals!!! I even heard that one of the progeny of "Tilly" resides as my neighbor.

Anyway, thoughts on this subject?

I think he should be put down, or atleast set free....and I am not a supporter of the death penalty.

It just seems quite unfair that other mammals kept in captivity, even humans have to pay the consequence of malice.

posted February 26, 2010 11:20 AM         

Release

I agree that it is convoluted for the Orca to still be in Sea World after the other attacks. Don't know all the advertised reasons tho.

posted February 26, 2010 11:57 AM         

Like I said, this subject hits home, not to mention I am a Fish. sigh....

Really, I do not want to see Till put down, but what to do with Tilly?

AND I do put some blame on the trainer, she had to have known what Tilly was capable of.

We must be held to our own decisions.

I am kind of morphing into not putting him down, but just letting him free. But it angers me that so many (others) have been but down for less...???

(Free Willy FREE TILLY???)

Dunno,

I used to keep birds, but had problems with keeping them in cages and I loathe the Zoo...All of my 4 cats are indoor cats, 2 have seen outside, but so old now that they do not know...

Maybe a learning experience on keeping the free ones in captivity.

blessings and thanks~~~

t

posted February 26, 2010 12:02 PM         

Me thinks Sea World has some financial thinkings in their decisions.

posted February 26, 2010 12:19 PM         

tilly should be let into her natural habitat.

i think all animals deserve their natural habitat.

posted February 26, 2010 12:45 PM         

Ugh... Dogs, cats, ferretts, animals that were bred for domestication (because they were, historically) I can understand keeping as pets.

Trying to "tame" wild animals to do our bidding is just foolish. They are WILD. We shouldn't be surprised when they attack or try to kill us, we are FOOD to them!!

There was this giant python that killed a 2 year old girl and the owners were SHOCKED it happened. They KEPT a giant pyton in a room next to a 2 year old child!!! What do you expect??

It's just ridiculous when there is an uproar over animals behaving as animals. I see what you are saying, hippi, but I think freedom is the best bet, this animal has no clue it did something wrong, nor do other animals that attack.

posted February 26, 2010 12:53 PM         

I saw him all coiled up, hissing at chasing cars....and the spread he had to deal with was not more than the breadth of his coileness...

I stopped, I pulled over on the busy highway (just a stone's throw away from the Sea World I speak of), me and my youngin...

He was BIG! Atleast 6-8 feet in length....I found a stick and tried to push him the otherway, away from the traffic, when two goth-tattooed guys stopped to help,,,,

A young mother with her son intow also stopped, just before the snake, to block traffic....

Finally we, goth boys, me and my kid and the young mother and her son got this giant serpent to slither off,, away from the highway.......(tho in the direction of my house ! )

posted February 26, 2010 01:15 PM         

a dog is different. let a dangerous dog go back to the wild and it will...come home!! or hang out in someone else's neighbourhood....i firmly believe that apart from bad breeding/inbreeding, a dog's behaviour is thoroughly influenced by the people it lives with.

an orca? puleez!! this is a wild creature separated from its kin, isolated, cramped, and probably frightened or irritated by the commotion caused by a crowd...

posted February 26, 2010 01:36 PM         

I almost feel like picketing Sea World, I have lived in this neighborhood for 22 years and have tolerated all of the local amusement park things...some good, mostly things I would rather not.

Would anybody care to join me to libeate Tilly? (ha jk! ) What to do with a renegade 12300 lb-some whale.

posted February 26, 2010 01:40 PM         

Still, let them be.

posted February 26, 2010 02:01 PM         

i agree with most of what you said kat, but one part, i have two step-dogs that i gained thru marriage, both of them are now "my" dogs...as they stay by me, greet me, protect me whatever and proclaimed themselves my dogs.. however, dottie, the rescued boxer seems to think it is her job to protect me and the perimiters of our property to the point of, i worry she would bite someone. in fact, if someone reaches over the fence to pet her, she actually has bitten. and if even her owner tells her to get down off of me, she snaps at him. she is just that protective. where susie, brown lab, is so happy all of the time her tail thumps on the floor and against walls and furniture and that is her happy sound. she just has a more easy going personality while dot is a little beotch, although i love them both, i think they were born with there personalities. dottie thinks her JOB is making sure i am safe and our property secure. i worry about her as she gets older because i know she will probobly get worse with her attitude. wierd thing is she will let my grandson grab her and what not, and docile as could be and if he is napping she stays with him until he wakes up then she comes to get me. but she is very very stubborn dog. i think she actually thinks i belong to her and not the other way around. so to a point i think they were born with thier personalitites. like we were.

i have had a deaf pit bull that was the sweetest dog on the planet a real cuddle muffin, that responded very well with sign commands...then a chiuaua who thought she was a pit bull that would tear your butt up. so cruel environments aside, i think they have an inate temperment to themself, of course environment does play a part too.

posted February 26, 2010 02:12 PM         

and DO bless the next retard who swims with Tilly!

posted February 26, 2010 10:05 PM         

I think they should set the whale free.

posted February 27, 2010 11:11 AM         

And after some more media coverage and exploration of my own, I agree.

Somebody mentioned that Till's price tag was (either) 1 mil or 2, was sleeping on an off through the show, but I do remember my bfriend saying something about the million dollar whale!

AND Tilly was captured, he used to be wild...

I say, let him go.

But I am sure, with such an astronomical investment Sea World will not.

I kind of hope Sea World gets a tainted reputation regarding this matter, tho, I have heard many, many helis flying over my house to later find out that it was somebody transporting some hurt marine mammal to Sea World for healing.

My bfriend and my daugher and I were plotting the freeing of all the Orcas at my Sea World last night, tho I could not figure how I would accomodate them in my bath tubs...

posted February 27, 2010 11:25 AM         

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