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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2010 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i don't know how old you are HD? but when i was living in london there was a horrific case of two 10 year olds who took a toddler down the railroad tracks and murdered him. i don't remember the method but it was gruesome...that was probably about '89 or so when my daughter was in elementary school...and i have to say some of the kids (and their parents) at her school were definitely mentally deficient in the human compassion area at the very least...

i also remember being horrified seeing a brawl break out in a pub in north london and the aggressors ganged up on this bloke and literally kicked the p!ss out of him as he lay on the ground trying to at least protect his most vulnerable parts...it was about 6 on one which is also a very english way of dealing with irritations.

liz green had a quote that stuck with me, talking about england's ascendant i think..."if it moves, club it to death!" ... her succinct way of describing the english approach to change and new blood entering the system...

nowt to do with pluto in leo though!!

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** there was a horrific case of two 10 year olds who took a toddler down the railroad tracks and murdered him. **
.. that was the james bulger case

RIP Jamie ..
~ http://saoirse32.blogsome.com/2008/03/03/james-would-be-18-now-the-pa in-of-losing-him-will-never-go-away/ ~

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" Friday 12th February 1993. Denise, James Bugler's mother, went with her brother’s girlfriend Nicola to the Bootle Strand Shopping Centre and took James with her. "
~ http://www.murderuk.com/child_killers_thompson_venables.html ~

** i also remember being horrified seeing a brawl break out in a pub in north london and the aggressors ganged up on this bloke and literally kicked the p!ss out of him as he lay on the ground trying to at least protect his most vulnerable parts...it was about 6 on one which is also a very english way of dealing with irritations.**

yeah .. this country runs on alchohol ..
it's the national disease ..
i live by three pubs .. constantly amazes me how old and worn out many of the pub goers look ..
the ones i see during the day on the street ..
i.e. screwed up blotchy wrinkly skin .. sagging faces .. depressed looking ..
i guess they must be the hard core drinkers

can't remember the last time i had a alchoholic drink .. must be at least 12 years ..

oh re jamie bulgers murderers ..
one recently was arrested ..
now he may lose his right to keep his identity hidden ..

i think he'd be killed if his i.d. was known

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
sort of back to topic .. generation stuff ..
seems like so much popular music in the last two years or so ..
is So morose .. it's like listening to a diet of leonard cohen songs ..
enough to make one permanently depressed and suicidal ..
( apologies if your a LC fan .. i most certainly am not ) ..

either that or airy-fairy songs ..
'fire-flys dancing about my head' ( or something like that )

saw one character on jooles holland show ( when i had a television )
sat there with his guitar studying his navel singing in a morbid fashion..
sang something about 'poor me poor me' ..
then at the end crouched down on the stage and put his head in his hands like he was crying his eyes out ..
or about to commit suicide ..

to be fair there be some good ones ..
i like ( gaff edit ) " Empire State of Mind " .. Alicia Keys
.. the short version ..
be one or two others ..
but if the radio mentions paul weller just one more time i will SCREAM ..
they're pushing his latest one constantly ( which kills it ) over and over again ..
'n if radio leeds plays one more micheal jackson song or bee gees ..
no telling what i might do .. burn the station down or something ( just joking of course )

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
i 'image' googled 'the pluto in leo generation' just to see what might pop up
i.e. in order to replace one morbid post ;-))
no idea what this is .. well ok i think it's someones idea of pluto in sag. ..
( did not read thru it .. .. skimmed it )

~ http://devagreen.com/pluto.htm ~

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
( 16th deleted as predicted :-)

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 15, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
*kat*

re birth dates .. as in trying to figure it out ..

goes .. like this .. when you don't have a birthdate or time to work with
and all there is .. is the chart with degrees written with the placements ..
step 1 .. find the Uranus degrees in the ephemeris .. note if retro or direct ( for year )
the degrees must match .. even down to minutes and maybe seconds
step .. 2 .. find the Sun degrees .. ( for month and day ) ..
step .. 3 .. that normaly gets it right if the Uranus degrees are spot on ..
if not .. it's usualy a case of finding when uranus went direct or retro ..
one might have to tweak a bit ..
as for time of birth .. be a case of matching asc to time ..
depends on the software .. Kairon has a neat 'time-machine' that makes it easy ..

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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2010 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
be careful there, sounds like she fancies you. if only because you're the only man that's treated her kindly without trying to yank her skirt off at the same time...your appreciation of the age difference may not matter to her but probably made you less lecherous ...

so you are another 26 taurusperson (or near as dammit)? along with the droves here, and the number keeps going up. are you friendly with our mate algol??

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 16, 2010 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** are you friendly with our mate algol?? **
i hope so ..
algol ? .. sounds like an indigestion remedy ..
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fixed star of some sort ? ( rings a bell )

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cherle
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posted April 16, 2010 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherle     Edit/Delete Message
My closest and longest friendships in my adulthood had been with a woman of the baby boomer gen. I'm Gen X myself.

She's not quite 60 yet but a few of years ago, I notice a marked change in her. She wasn't as sharp in her thinking, less self-possessed, more insular in how she connected with what was going on in the world, and growing more and more patronizing towards me. I don't know what happen, but one day a couple of years ago, I was visiting her when she flippantly said something to me that was deeply insulting and deeply offensive about something personal about me. I was literally stunned speechless, as in the many years I had known her, she never was anywhere near that condescending or nasty to me. It effectively ruined our friendship overnight, because she had become someone I don't even recognize.

I still talk with her, but I keep my distance. She's since grow closer to another Baby Boomer woman, who's quite dysfunctional herself. They seem to enjoy the company of each other's Baby Boomer misery these days. But I'm still hurting over the loss of that friendship, since I'm not good at meeting new people or making new friends, and it's not everyday you meet someone who you can start a new, long term friendship like the one I had with her before she got weird.

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koiflower
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posted April 16, 2010 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Gee cherle - that's sad, but it kind of reflects a few of my experiences of the last few years.

I thought I was moving away from that yukkiness until a few weeks ago when a colleague lost it with me - but I have processed it and put it down to her stress and I have been sending good vibes to her and that has helped me heal....

Reading your post has helped me to remember that things happen to people - so it's not just me. It does make one weary when a shot comes out of the blue.

The English - now that's an interesting culture. They are hard to beat in a battle - what's in their genes that gives them that fightings spirit?

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 16, 2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
folks born in 1950 will be dealing with
transiting saturn square natal uranus
transiting uranus square natal uranus
and to some extent transiting pluto opposite natal uranus

the 1952 lot will be dealing with that last transit
i.e. they will feel it building up

the 1951 born will be feeling it the most ( pluto opp n.uranus )

jump forward to 1953 the picture is much much different

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Homeless man 'repeatedly kicked'
~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/dorset/8623906.stm ~
" A jury has heard a teenager describe how his three friends kicked a Big Issue seller to death when the man refused to give them a cigarette. "

the Big Issue ~ http://www.bigissue.com/ ~

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katatonic
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posted April 16, 2010 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes, fixed star with a morbid reputation though i don't necessarily see it that way. many many LLers have significant conjunctions to algol which is at 26tau, it is on my IC for instance.

i am a 49er and pluto is currently opposing my n uranus...and the saturn square is basically operative now despite the current retrograde into virgo, while jupiter and t uranus approach aries point and complete the cross...it is a crucible time for those born in and right around 1950 for sure, but not necessarily disastrous.

i feel some of our 30-40somethings are witnessing acquaintances crossing over into an age where their death is predicted to be imminent and they feel they have not fulfilled many of their former desires. some respond with bitterness, some retreat into seniority (not necessarily senility) and some into an entrenched position of superiority bestowed by "elder-ness" whether deserved or not.

but once again i do not think this is generational but age-related. by and large the pluto in leo generation is CAPABLE of staying young at heart longer than anyone but the pluto in gemini and sag crowds, one is VERY old - if alive at all - and the other is still very young.

another "fond" memory from england is the older generation of the time, the "greatest" generation who passed through the war, and their cliche motto "I FOUGHT THE WAR FOR YOUR SORT" which is one of the bitterest comments on younger people i have ever come across...

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posted April 16, 2010 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
kat - you are so wise.

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 16, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ kat ~
re:
** be careful there, sounds like she fancies you. ***

on thinking about it .. and reflecting on past experiences .. i guess it's not inconceivable .. :-(

i've had some uncomfortable reactions when they figured i wasn't going to cross the line ( as it were )
2 gals .. both about 22 years my junior .. despite fairly obvious hints to which my (internal) reaction
is ... 'no no she couldn't possibly have those type of feelings for me - i must not be seeing the situation right
what yer thinking hd is impossible' .. .. one sag. gal threw things at me in frustration ( me 'what was That for !!!' )
and a scorp. simply refused to acknowledge my existense when we were socialising with common friends ..
i.e. cold as ice ..

scorp. .. i'd given her a ride home .. she was in the middle of a breakup with bf. ..
( this was slightly different as i realy fancied her big-time .. although never showed it )
the bf was someone i liked .. i wasn't about to interfere in their relationship ( 'cause i don't tolerate the same )
and .. she was a bit drunk at the time .. .. so i stayed 'n had a drink with her .. then took my leave ..
next time i saw her .. she was the ice queen .. although nice and friendly to everyone else about ..
( 'n me thinking .. so this is the price for being friendly and not taking advantage )

actually it's usually weeks after the fact that i realise the reality ..
sort of regret not crossing the line with scorp :-/ .. as things turned out ..
told myself .. 'next time forget right 'n wrongs' and go for it ..
still don't seem right somehow ..
but a female leo friend said .. " ah .. but .. you don't know what you might be missing "
maybe she was right .. ..

so i guess .. maybe .. i could get crap again ..
what to do .. stop being friendly ??? be like a no win scenerio ..

anyhow i've made my mind up and pledged my heart to one particular sun-sign ..
'n if i cross paths with a much younger version and there's a solid and deep attraction
i'll go for the ride wherever it leads ..
if i never meet up .. then i'll stay single 'till my times up on this earth ..

famous last words :-)))))) .. i'll probably have to eat them someday .. though hopefuly not ..

( must be the onset of spring that's effecting my mindset .. :-)
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.. remember Benny Hill ? .. .. listened to his life story on the radio recently ..
he lived on his own all his life .. when asked about marriage .. he said ..
' why purchase a book when you can go to the library ' ..

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