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Topic: Baby Boomers
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1688 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 07:14 AM
This is purely a very personal and highly general comment with no research behind it............But, what is going on for Baby Boomers?Is it that you hit 60, have a minor psychological break-down and spit tacks at the nearest person? Is it difficult letting go of 'those days' and accepting that we all age? I'm sorry if I sound shallow and mislead. I must say that Baby Boomers are really cool and I was born to 2 of them and they really rocked in the 70s and 80s when they were young and hip...... .....but sshhhhhh...come a little closer....... I think hitting their 60s is playing with their minds and they are having difficulty accepting the ageing process. Some are having power/control issues and are experiencing issues with accepting that there are really funky Gen X and Gen Y folk out there that know as much, if not, more than them.... and don't have a need to seek out power and status agendas to feel a sense of satisfaction. Am I evil saying this? Maybe yes, maybe no.... but I can tell you something..... I feel GREAT getting that off my chest!!! IP: Logged |
mermaid26 Knowflake Posts: 227 From: just visiting you know Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 07:55 AM
Look at the down side of their outer planets for their "stuck" generational attitudes. Their Saturn reveals their major lesson to learn and I personally think many won't learn their lesson this time around because all do not truly see and hear, and its takes that secret journey and hard work to discover one's personal truth. It's easier and more comfortable for most to remain in the "world" view. They need to know their strengths and goodness if they are jaded.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 10:12 AM
no offense ladies but you will be 60 one day too. is it a crime to maintain youth and vigour and not want to be shoved into the rest home? or do you just have issues with your particular parents? what is this about spitting tacks? hopefully as we get older we get smarter and less obsessed with power and control issues, and also hopefully we raised our kids with an open enough heart that they don't see us as idiots as we get older. and hopefully if YOU have kids when you are 60 they will still see what you have to offer...or you will be off somewhere having the time of your life and not having to worry about them into their 40's!! IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1322 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 10:39 AM
LOL. In my job I work with plenty of 60+ year olds. I used with to work with an 84 year old who lead an aerobics class at the senior center. She's a riot. I like the slow pace and the acceptance that rule a workplace filled with baby boomers. Sometimes I get annoyed with how slow they are to take on a new idea or adopt a new skill especially when it relates to technology. All in all, I like working with them. May be my Saturn in the 7th.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1688 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 05:56 PM
Yes, I realise I made a minefield statement....I'm specifically talking about those born after the War after the Greatest Generation and the Silent Generation.... I'm an old X'er and saw the BB grow up from late adolescents. Of course, I don't mean ALL of them, but in the last 3 years I've noticed a pattern.... The people who have shown aggression and lack of tolerance have all been in the same age group!!! However, I spoke to a woman yesterday in her 40s and her theory was that women (not just those in their early 60s) have the potential to become aggressive after their children have grown up and they don't need that maternal drive as much as. So that primitive side comes out a little more. I hope to be 60 one day! Even 70 and 80. I'm striving to be a healthy elderly person, hopefull with an open heart and mind. Love to chat more... gotta go - back later IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2010 08:30 PM
koiflower.... I think I know what you mean. I do not think it is the age of 60 or so however. I think it is a generational thing. I was born in 1954.....so am now 55..... however those born betwixt 1942 and 1949, the 60 to 68 year olds.....I find many to be as you have described. Not all of course, but many of them. However I found them to be just as irritating when we were all younger.The group that reminds me of them in many ways are the folks born betwixt about 1959 to 1965. Both groups seem to tend towards fuddyduddyness and try to hard to fit in with the Joneses so to speak. Now remember folks....I am not saying all...just from my own observations of folks I know in person. As for being 55...well I personally like it! I like me! My body is a problem, but it is my being made disabled whilst I was only age 33 that did it, and not my age! ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*>
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amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1122 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 09, 2010 06:14 PM
Pluto in Leo right? Makes sense. "ME ME ME" etc haha. My parents are Boomers. They're actually your age, Lexx. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 09, 2010 07:04 PM
amowls* quote: Pluto in Leo right? Makes sense. "ME ME ME" etc haha.
Was that an insult?
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1688 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2010 10:31 PM
I DO like the Baby Boomer generation - They made a few social advancements where we benefit from.I have a few experiences that have left me wondering..... ** all women ** about the same age group 58-62 ** snappy and semi-aggressive However, in trying to process this for the last few days, I can draw on a few conclusions to help me understand. (I guess we can draw on ANY conclusion, if it makes sense and helps us to heal). ** I'm too sensitive ** the economic downturn lost one year of savings in retirement funds for those nearing retirement ** the Aust govt changed the retirement age from 65 to 67 just recently I'm never ready for rude people, so when they spit something harsh out, I turn into a cooked marshmallow - I'm trying to figure me out so that I don't fry so easily. amowls - you shoot from the hip LEXX - I don't think you were a target Thanks for you comments everyone IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2010 11:01 PM
koiflower...Thank you! Just wondered what the "ME ME ME" was about. I did not think that I appeared that egocentric. Well I know I generally have troubles with women in the approximate 5 to 15 years older than myself age bracket.(60 to 70 or so now) Too often so many seem so lost and bitter. And very aggressive and narrow minded. Not all, but many I have encountered. But even when we were younger I still did not get along well usually with them. ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*>
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Lyra Knowflake Posts: 167 From: London, UK Registered: May 2009
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posted April 11, 2010 05:39 AM
Ahhh...don't talk to me about baby boomers. I was born to 2 - from 1940 - very VERY focused on greed/ possessions/ "do as I say, not as I do" - of course, mellowing with age NOW, as people tend to do eventually. The way I view them might be something to do with their age relative to me, because I really hated them in their 40s and 50s - they're veering a bit more towards harmlessness now I can't say there is much love lost between me and my OWN generation, now in their 30s and 40s...they all seem to be obsessed with sex, porn, drink, drugs, videogames, relationships (particularly relationship breakdowns). Funnily enough, they are not so focused on WORK/ work ethics - probably because there isn't a lot of work to go around LOL... unless we're one of the lucky few that manage to land a career straight out of Uni and stick with it for life - the rest of us just work to live
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2010 01:08 PM
a) 1940 is well PREboomer. many people resent the ageing process and it can make them bitter and hard to get along with.b) the boomers being the generation that really insisted on equality between the sexes had a lot of failed relationships. those younger than us reaped the benefits of men who took for granted that equality and so it worked better for them. i mention this because there are a lot of single women in this age range who suffered the consequences of insisting on equal treatment and found themselves punished for it.... but honestly, my mother, born in '18, became a bitter old woman due to her health disintegrating on her...and i know plenty of bitter aggressive 30 somethings. i don't feel this has anything much to do with WHICH generation you were born into, but is more of a personal thing. i am in this age group and though i can be aggressive it's not really my style DESPITE aries nn in the third house - in fact i have been told in GU that i am not rude ENOUGH!! on the other hand i would like to say that pluto in leo is not necessarily about ME ME ME, but it is prone to speaking out in situations where others might shrink or sugarcoat. i guess some people would consider this aggressive but it is not actually meant to be. pluto in leo is about self-expression and creativity, also about LEADING, in the interest of ALL not just oneself... IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 2097 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2010 05:36 PM
kat is one of the nicest peeps i know, few others too. i think some get sweeter like a fine wine and some get sour like old pickles. i agree there are some pickles out there. but there is also the one of a kind fine wine who has much wisdom gained through the years, a mine of wealth, thier knowlegde, when we listen to the fine wine kind that got smarter and better with age we can learn a lot and avoid some pitfalls.. pickles can go puckerface, they are comic characters actually. i look at the pickles like comical to keep from getting mad! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 718 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 12:40 AM
I'm afraid I'm going the pickle route. Hopefully, I can turn my attitude around. I need to get 'unstuck'.IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 01:14 AM
Aging tip: If you do not feel like smiling a lot.... at least do not frown or grimace or pucker your brow.... go blank faced instead. It really keeps the wrinkles from forming. It is also easier to pull out of a funk/fugue/bad feeling if you go blank faced and not allow your face to scrunch and pinch up.------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*> IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1688 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 07:57 AM
I saw this today.....I've never known a thankful person to be bitter..... ...or a bitter person to be thankful. From a thread in Universal Codes "Science from the Heart" - I'm learning to keep my heart safe and strong....I'm adopting a "Keep my heart safe at all costs" approach. Here's my strategy..... A bitter person snarls unexpectedly in face. I instantly put up my hand and say "You are in my bio-electromagnetic field and are now compromising my psycho-physiological coherence - please step away from my bio-electromagnetic field" http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart-head-heart-interactions.html IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 10:02 AM
LEXX - paramahansa yoga used to say that the act of smiling was so important that if you couldn't manage a smile it was worth it to use your fingers to push your mouth into one!! apparently the muscles used when smiling actually stimulate endorphin production which helps bring you out of the dumps... and laughing, even if fake, is even better for one's mood! IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 2806 From: acousticgod@sbcglobal.net Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 10:06 AM
[To Koi] That'll certainly puzzle them. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 01:05 PM
katatonic quote: LEXX - paramahansa yoga used to say that the act of smiling was so important that if you couldn't manage a smile it was worth it to use your fingers to push your mouth into one!! apparently the muscles used when smiling actually stimulate endorphin production which helps bring you out of the dumps...
VERY true! I have used that method many many times! quote: and laughing, even if fake, is even better for one's mood!
Indeed! Yes I use that method often too and have posted about it several times. When I am very depressed, I am often too exhausted to even try, but when I remember, I go for the maniacal laughter, using a mirror at times to boot! The forced fake laughs and all will not always make me happy, but will bring on the laugh till I cry purging catharsis which does indeed stimulate endorphin production! And then one just might start to feel better or at least be able to rest. ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*> IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 3273 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted April 12, 2010 02:33 PM
Hmm, I've thought alot about this, being born to the pickle sort...My mother, a very bitter woman, still blames all the wrongs in her life on either, her mother, or my father. She was married to my father for only 2 short years, and he did mention many times that he did NOT want to get married, but, she got pregnant, so he did "the right thing." He was bitter that he had a family and couldn't pursue his dreams. Wow, I was just a pain in the a s s for everybody!! Anyway, I always wondered if my mother was bitter because her parents generation never (or hardly ever) got divorced, and she did?? Of course, her parents generation didn't divorce much because they learned to look the other way at indescretion. You know?? My mom's pride wouldn't have that, and I guess I don't blame here there, but you can't have it both ways. *sigh* IDK. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1688 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 07:26 AM
quote: Wow, I was just a pain in the a s s for everybody!!
Oh, sorry to hear that that's how you feel. What does IDK mean, please? I'm having a pre-senior moment IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 1320 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 10:45 AM
IDK or idk=I don't knowbut what does "meh" mean? I see it a lot of late. Others are: btw=by the way brb=be right back ltrz=later ttyl=talk to you later tmi=too much information ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*>
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Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 12:04 PM
pluto in leo ~ http://www.earthwalkastrology.com/images/Pluto%20In%20Leo%20Generation.pdf ~IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 03:34 PM
nice link, HD...this part about the pluto square which boomers went through (20 or so years ago now!!) is telling about this topic -This is meant to be a wake up call for a self-centered generation that is at the threshold of its greatest creative experience - the giving of self for the needs of humanity. What the entire Pluto in Leo generation is now set to learn is the nature of group karma versus individual karma. All these years of recovery, psychological selfexploration, dealing with family of origin issues and the wounded inner child have led us to the brink of narcissistic self-absorption at the cost of social and political activism. Our inner cities and their poverty, suffering, drug addiction and crime will not just go away. The excessive and revolting salaries of our cultural superstars - athletes, media celebrities, musicians, actors and actresses, corporate executives - are now becoming a painfully real disgrace as the middle class sinks into a low level mediocrity and the truly poor are beyond description in their daily struggles for survival. The transit of Pluto through Scorpio has wrought gangs, AIDS, childhood sexual abuse revelations, an explosion of penetrating psychological breakthroughs and insights in family systems understanding and treatment of chemical dependency and alcoholism, and the exposure of violence, both sexual and cultural, as a shamelessly marketed commodity to sell TV, movies and commercial goods. If this does not shake our character and sensibilities to the marrow, what will? And how much suffering do we need to witness before we mobilize our generational forces and take action (fire element-Leo) to heal (Pluto) the ills in society that we see all around us (air element-Aquarius polarity)? It is time for the Pluto in Leo generation to assume power, think in terms of the group rather than the individual, and see that transpersonal growth is not complete until the private psychological and spiritual transformation is used to serve the good of the collective. Seek out the painful trouble spots in your community, go there, and offer yourself in service to the solutions. It will be the best therapy you never paid for. Guaranteed. i think the people koi was originally talking about are probably those who missed the boat personal-growth-wise and are bitter that their lives are not full despite all their possessions...many of which are being lost by the bucketful at present! IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 03:44 PM
don't know what it is about the current brit generation .. but the murderers are getting younger and younger i half expect to see a gun toting todler soon .. ready to kill anyone that looks at him/her the wrong way ( i swear .. britain is the most socially violent place i've ever spent time in ) Murder charge boy, 13, in court ~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/tyne/8622196.stm ~ " Mr Mbaye, who was also known as Alioune Cisse, arrived on Tyneside earlier this year seeking asylum in the UK. " Boy, 15, in court over shot woman ~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/london/8622005.stm ~ i certainly hope tweed gets what he deserves 'Tweed rape victim like a ghost' ~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/essex/8623051.stm ~ just love ( not ) the wannabe celebrity lot .. sorry it's ** off topic ** .. i'll delete it after 'n think up something positive to say about the b.boomers .. long hair for guys ??? .. the leonine mane .. ( sorry poor atempt there ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hot pizza now awaits my attention .. IP: Logged |