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jwhop
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posted April 08, 2010 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
SCHOOL -- 1958 vs. 2008

Scenario :
Jack goes rabbit shooting before school,
pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1958 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his rifle & chats with Jack about guns.

2008 - School goes into lock down, Star Force called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his ute or gun again.. Counsellors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.

1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2008 - Police called, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Both children go to anger management programs for 3 months. School board hold meeting to implement bullying prevention programs

Scenario:
Robbie won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1958 - Robbie sent to office and given 6 of the best by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2008- Robbie given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. Robbie's parents get fortnightly disability payments and School gets extra funding from state because Robbie has a disability.

Scenario :
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.

Scenario :
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1958- Mark gets glass of water from Principal to take aspirin with.

2008- Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario :
Pedro fails high school English.

1958- Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. AFRE files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario :
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a bull ant nest.

1958 - Ants die.

2008- Star Force, Federal Police & Anti-terrorism Squad called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, Feds investigate parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated. Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario :
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in Prison.. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


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AcousticGod
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posted April 08, 2010 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO
SURVIVED THE 1950's, 60's, and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can,
and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paints. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms....We had friends and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. We ate worms, and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever. We were given BB guns for our
10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers, and inventors ever! The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned

HOW DO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

And YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good. And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.

Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?!

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katatonic
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posted April 08, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
anyone know if it is legal for a grade school to deny phys ed for disciplinary reasons? ie for talking in class?????

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Dervish
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posted April 08, 2010 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were

No, don't do this.

Because enough will ask you why it was YOUR generation that was the one to change it with their "innovation and new ideas." They may also ask if you loved it so much and it was so good then why didn't your generation give their children the same blessing.

And in my experience, your generation CAN'T deal with it (which is why they changed it).

And btw, don't blame the lawyers & government that you say your generation respected above because it was your generation overall that pushed for and voted for the changes. Also, many kids stay inside playing video games today because your generation won't allow them outside, plus it's another effect of your generation turning to quick fixes like pills to dope up your kids to take the easy way out as you couldn't handle being real parents (just as generations before yours even gave opium to their kids to keep them quiet back when opium was still legal; and guess what, that generation--at least many of them--survived it! )

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katatonic
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posted April 08, 2010 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
which generation do you mean, dervish? jwhop and ag are two very different ones...

but i do tend to agree the rose-coloured glasses ignore the obvious...it wasn't so great or the demand for change would not have been there.

as a grade schooler in the 50s i remember:

the school wanting to suspend me for "unladylike" behaviour cos the school bully came at me and i gave him a dose of his own medicine...and the fall broke two of his ribs!!

that corporal punishment was banned before i ever got to school!

children who disappeared because the kind old man down the road was seriously deranged..

the social conformity that was stifling and the apartheid that held on unofficially a hundred years after the civil war(i am from ny state)...

that "pedro" may have gone to summer school but he repeated the year, over and over again and ended up drunk in the bowery or dead in vietnam

and if jack had his rabbit gun in the car he was not in grade school!! but there was no reason to think he might be one of those kids who shot all his classmates because it just had not happened before.

and that billy's dad whipping him created a man who turned around and whipped his own kids because "it was good enough for me"

the fact that we have maybe gone too far in the other direction does NOT mean everything was a-okay before.

i remember the freedom i enjoyed as a kid, no one worried where we were unless we failed to show up by dark...i tried giving my daughter the same kind of freedom and it was seriously nervewracking because times had changed and so had the people around us.

a neighbour who let her daughter play out unsupervised was rewarded by having that 8 year old raped in her own backyard.

different times, different pressures, different mistakes. nobody everk wupped me with a belt or anything else and i still learned my lessons. no one will ever give any child in my family ritalin!! and i very much doubt that a teacher who comforted a small child with a hug will do any time for child molesting either...

swings and roundabouts, change and change again.

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vapor-lash
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posted April 08, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
That's funny JW..

I said this recently (I'm 24 btw so I was in highschool from '99 to 2003):

quote:
lol LEXX - I know exactly what you mean with the whole uniform rules..

I never staged a protest though.

I simply did *not* wear that.

For instance in summer - I wore my pants sometimes.. I was meant to wear the summer dress lol

When someone asked me about it, I told them it was very windy outside and my skirt slips up.. so I'd prefer to wear pants.

When they said that I should still abide by the uniform rules bla bla..

I said - well I'm actually very shy about that.. I have some issues - I'm seeing a psychologist and I'm trying to avoid a nervous breakdown... so it really would be best.. *insert nervous laughter* because last year I tried to cut my wrists and my parents think I should just wear what I please.. if it makes me *that* uncomfortable.

That's the sort of stuff I made up.
Because I KNOW it scares their pants off.

You mention suicide in high school.. they run around like headless chooks.. you can do whatever you like for the next month.


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GypseeWind
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posted April 09, 2010 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Can I steal that AG, well you pretty much said I could, so I am. Thanks, I've been saying pretty much the same stuff forever now.

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katatonic
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posted April 09, 2010 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i think today's kids will "survive it all" too

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AcousticGod
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posted April 09, 2010 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Definitely Gypsee. It's not mine. My dad sent that out awhile back, and I thought it would fit with Jwhop's post. I just looked it up on the internet to find the text.

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jwhop
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posted April 11, 2010 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
From an email I received. OMG...email!!

Growing Up Without a Cell Phone

If you are 30, or older, you might think this is hilarious!

When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up; what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning.... Uphill...
Barefoot... BOTH ways. yadda, yadda, yadda.

And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on my kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it! But now that I'm over the
ripe old age of thirty, I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia! And I hate to say it, but you kids today, you
don't know how good you've got it!

a.. I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have the Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalog!! Then, you had to find the book on all those shelves.

b.. There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a pen and paper! Then you had to walk all the way to he end of the block and put it in the mailbox, and it would take like a week to get
there! Stamps were 8 cents!

c.. Child Protective Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick our ass! Nowhere was safe!

d.. There were no MP3's or Napsters or iTunes! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike (or ride you Schwinn bicycle) to the record store and shoplift it yourself!

e.. Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio, and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished, and then the tape would come undone
rendering it useless. Cause, hey, that's how we rolled, Baby! Dig?

f.. We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called, they got a busy signal, that's it!

g.. There weren't any freakin' cell phones either. If you left the house, you just didn't make a damn call or receive one. You actually had to be out of touch with your "friends". OH MY GOD !!! Think of the
horror... not being in touch with someone 24/7!!! And then there's TEXTING. Yeah, right. Please! You kids have no idea how annoying you are.

h.. And we didn't have fancy Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you
had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your parents, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, the collection agent... you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

i.. We didn't have any fancy PlayStation or Xbox video games with high- resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'Asteroids'. Your screen guy was a little square! You
actually had to use your imagination!!! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen... Forever! And you could
never win. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!

j.. You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV and actually touch the set to change
the channel!!! NO REMOTES!!! Oh, no, what's the world coming to?!?!

k.. There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying? We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-finks!

l.. And we didn't have microwaves. If we wanted to heat something up, we had to use the stove! Imagine that!

m.. And our parents told us to stay outside and play... all day long. Oh, no, no electronics to soothe and comfort. And if you came back inside . . . you were doing chores! Outside all day till the
streetlights came on: No cell phone: No texting . . . OMG.

n.. And car seats - oh, please! Mom threw you in the back seat and you hung on. If you were lucky, you got the "safety arm" across the chest at the last moment if she had to stop suddenly, and if your head hit the dashboard, well that was your fault for calling "shot gun" in the first place! See! That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled rotten! You guys wouldn't have lasted
five minutes back in 1980 or any time before!

Regards,
The Over 40 Crowd

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 11, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
and king of the hill was for whoever was strong enough to stand at the top of a hill and knock all the other kids down the hill on thier ashes and was a prized spot to be. the king of the hill now would be in juvvie for aggressive behavior for sending some kid home with skinned knees. we learned our social skills outside of the classroom, not inside.

now they don't even allow the kids to play dodge ball. too dangerous.

since we took away playing hard and rough and actually going to bed tired and traded it for video games and dvd's and computer my-face it hasn't done us any favors.

it seems we have a younger generation in which depression and extreme violence is rampant. not sure why the tweens are so depressed, but a very high number have depression and i have to wonder if lack of fresh air and figuring out thier own problems and advanced technologies may be a contributer.

just musings from an ex- king of the hill. yeah, i probobly sent your brother home crying.

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katatonic
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posted April 11, 2010 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
"And car seats - oh, please! Mom threw you in the back seat and you hung on. If you were lucky, you got the "safety arm" across the chest at the last moment if she had to stop suddenly" - lol, jwhop i still do this to whomever sits in my passenger seat!!

i also remember being about five and egging my mom to go fast enough over a certain bump in the road that we could bounce high enough to hit our heads on the ceiling...and my mom was not particularly lax in the area of safety...

AND i remember my first proper boyfriend was blind in one eye because he fell on a stick running through the woods as a child...just so we don't pretend those days were all good...

AND i remember plenty of depressed teens and pubescents, cutters and self-burners.

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted April 11, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
Everything's Amazing & Nobody's Happy Louis CK on Conan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

Do you ever stop for a moment to think about how amazing it is that technology has advanced as far as it has? I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that a cell phone was something that only few were able to take advantage of. And let’s not forget the size of the original cell phones! What about laptops? They’ve become more and more affordable and at the same time smaller and more portable, while increasing performance. These days, it would be hard to imagine life without a computer in the home, but also the Wi-Fi Internet that allows us to roam around and access the Internet just about anywhere.

In this day in age, we’ve got GPS systems that help us find our way, cell phones that are practically mini-computers, cameras that instantly capture important moments in our lives, computers that connect us with people around the world, advanced video game systems, and the list goes on and on.

When I stop to think about all of the advances in technology I have witnessed in my lifetime, I can’t help but laugh when I view the video. Comedian Louis CK appears on the Conan O’Brien show and talks about how “Everything’s Amazing, and Nobody’s Happy.”

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We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett

“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.” Desiderius Erasmus

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AcousticGod
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posted April 11, 2010 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
CPN,

On my block it was Smear the Queer. I was always tall for my age, so I'd play with the older kids as well as the kids my age.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 11, 2010 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i played that one too ag! and flashlight tag. used to beg to stay out after dark to play flashlight tag.

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