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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 23, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
if you are an empath, and other peoples feelings flood your soul, how do you stop it sometimes?

it can be quite overwhelming.

yesterday i was conversing with someone who was very sad, and sadness flooded my very soul so deeply. i know they felt better later that day, so i think i literally took it from them.

it isn't symathy, it is empathy, i think. it happens quite often.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 23, 2010 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Egads!!!!!! I have to deal with this with work. It's like being someone's drain, and then you get clogged with emotional HAIR
I hate being an empath sometimes. I think we all are to an extent, but some of us are more sensitive than others.

Mostly I think just have to keep remembering to stop trying to 'heal' people, because it's like I'll find myself unconsciously going for it automatically. I try grounding and centering, but sometimes i get all caught up in some weird empathy loop and can't separate my own feelings from another person's and just have to go off alone, take a walk, or even bake lol

I could see you being an empath big time, CPN!

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 23, 2010 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
OMG MVM, its like when i am healing someone, i know i am doing it and feel the energy. and am a just a conduit or vessell....... but the empath thing just happens. yesterday i literally took that persons emotions, just by caring i think, it totally overwhelmed me. and at times i just start praying for people and what they feel i will feel so unbelievably strongly.

yes, EXACTLY what you said, i can't separate thier feelings from mine.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 23, 2010 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing I've learned so far in separating my feelings from theirs is when my mood starts to shift drastically all of a sudden (though it's hard to tell with my Moon/Uranus opposition LOL).
I'll start to feel really sad out of nowhere, or just drained/tired. That's when I think I am having interference - because a lot of times I just can't tell while it's happening .

I know it sounds weird but yawning really helps when you feel this way - it has to do with the oxygen levels, plus it also releases energy.

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Spanky Butler
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posted April 23, 2010 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I think firstly shielding yourself with white light every day is a start in keeping the boundaries where they belong.

I've struggled with this all my life & it was so bad that I thought I was going crazy along with the need to 'save' everyone. It can't be done cpn.

So shield yourself, experience the moment & pray for them then let it go. It is not your burden to bare.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 23, 2010 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
it explains so much. my mother also is an empath and that explains so much. how she knew about the accident, why she stays alone. God did give her gifts, she is right. because i also am empath i picked up on the negative energy bigtime. it is too hard for some people to deal with.
i just realised it all. why i cant go in big stores. why i read thru people. why i pick up on thoughts of others, and the emotions! spanky, i am not surprised you have deal with it too. and mvm.
now i know for sure what it is exactly, and i think it is genetic, and i think two of my kids possibly are. one more so to the point like me that avoids crowds. people affect me too much and i am just grateful now i know exactly what it is.
now i can try to figure out how to block it out a bit.

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
I've got some notes I'll find for you since this applies to me too. I recently found some insights by looking at my mom's basic chart desciption in Astro.com and that explained a lot. I feel like I have to help her heal her traumas. She was born in 1934. My firstborn daughter is a combo of my mother and me. I want to be well prepared to guide her special gifts.
I'm doing lots of "my work" on this too. It does seem a tough lot but overall it is a very special gift indeed.
Cpn - Ever go to Kelley's Isl? I have a good bit of my husband's family there. Heavy merchant marine influence in his family.
My mother is multi-talented but incredibly introverted and it's hard to feel her isolation. It is ultimately up to her though to step out the self-imposed prison doorway
I sent her a Utube of Cyndi Lauper playing True Colors on the dulcimer. It made me very emotional and I know my mom will like it. She plays the dulcimer and has musical talent that her family has never really seen shine. I wish she would share.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 24, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
kelley isl by put in bay. yes i have been there, how did you know that?
post any notes you have please. thank you.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted April 24, 2010 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I understand all too well being an empath.

A number of years ago, a very good psychic picked up on this about me and she said I am like a sponge and absorb other people's everything. She said to picture everything I absorb from others going right through me (picture a drain or tube letting it all pour out).

Now it's easier for me to detach and be an observer to other's rants or moods and walk away unaffected.

Some people are simply toxic and they love to dump on everyone until you put a stop to it. Sometimes just breaking off or limiting contact is the only way.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 24, 2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
mermaid, do you live on the east side of the city of detroit? st claire shores, eastpointe or just north of that vicinity?

how do even differentiate other peoples stuff from your own? i can't usually. but i just realised what it was. it has made other people in my life uncomfortable when i instictively know thier innermost.

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LEXX
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posted April 24, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Cities and crowds are agony.

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eskimono
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posted April 24, 2010 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message
CPN - I think I have a bit of this, but I can 'close' myself to it.

I will have a think about how I do it and let you know. It might just be the kind of person I am - I can be very closed when I want to be.

The subject of a recent discussion I had with you claimed to have a gift and be able to read people. He said he could read me easily when we were friends (and most people struggle to read me), but now he can't. I told him it was because I had 'closed' myself to him because he had hurt me and I wouldn't let him do that again. So, I think I can consciously open and close myself to it. But being closed means being in a little world of my own, where I don't even notice the people around me, it's not a place a particularly like being.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 24, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
eskimoo - i have to go to that place alot. to the point i tune out completely to my immediate environment.

i know when people read me. i know other empaths. i know when someone is lying and i know when someone reads me too. i have had it all my life and didnt know what it was. the healing, i didnt get until i was 26. it was like electricity went through my hands when i was in church and since then God heals through me, through hands on. i hesitant to use it but have a few times and only told the one person what happened. the others probobly dont understand what happened.. but the empathy thing is even at a distance. 3,000 miles that i know for sure.

thank God now i know why i cant go to kroger. i pay someone to go to kroger for me, shop online and only go to very small markets. and one of my children for sure, and my mother very strong, only her energy is a bit different, she knows God tells her things, and i guess he does..and i understand her isolation. i think its genetic. now i need to study it and learn how to turn it off or something sometimes.

i can't help it i know stuff about people, motivations, feelings, hurts mostly, lies. pick up on wierdest of things. once i looked into some guys eyes and i saw him literally in a kitchen slamming some brown haired womans head into a table, plain as day. there is so much stuff i know that i dont want to know.
it even happened on here once with valus. when him and wheels got into it and i wasnt even thrilled with him at the time, but he felt real real down and depressed and i actually felt EXACTLY what he felt and stuck up for him because of it, probobly making wheels think i had lost my ever loving mind, but his heart was in my heart right then. right then i felt what he was feeling and it was so sad.

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Cpn, I was born in Lakewood, a sub of Cleveland. I moved to GA in 1985 and live in the country. I do need a dose of city culture every once in a blue moon. I'm going to find my notes.

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listenstotrees
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posted April 24, 2010 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
My notes from The Mentor's Spirit
by: Marsha Sinetar

Mentors are artists of encouragement. They possess an unseen spirit of affirming and positive energy. This arises out of a sense of loneliness and a sense of being different.
They are virtuous and good stewards, trusting and trustworthy, empathetic, nonjudgemental and authentic.
They are change agents and need at least one trusted colleague for support. Many leaders shoulder alone and this is stressful. Productive mentors are congruent, they are who they purport to be. They have a self-actualizing temperament, a superior perception of reality, an increased acceptance of self, others, and nature.
They are solution oriented. They exercise increased detachment & autonomy.
Forging an authentic, unbounded life is a process, not an event.
Show me your mentors, I'll show you who you are.
One first becomes successful inwardly.
One should question what's the best use of his or her time now?
Give no attention to toxic, manipulative people.
Express truths and values in a sufficiently beautiful way.
Have affinity with kindred spirits.
Pick up own cross and tackle life's challenges as necessary and fitting.

Signs of Productive Mentors
1. They affirm life & further it's potential
2. They enter into authentic dialogue and are genuine and emotionally available.
3. They set clear boundaries for self and others.
4. They stabilize people in a continuity of effort (they are grounded)

Creative types experience:
isolation (ideas & perceptiveness)
keen sensitivity/ability to empathize
natural curiosity and love of discovery
tendency to follow hunches to see where intuition leads
a need to re-create oneself

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
The Edgar Cayce Center for Research & Enlightenment website may have some free coursework and some insights about healers and their practices. I stayed in a hotel a few blocks away from there a few years back. I could kick myself for not going there then. I still would like to go there and hopefully soon.

I apologize if you already have this info. I've got to find my notebook with HSP & empath research.

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
HSP - Highly Sensitive People

Need a set routine - diet, exercise, meditation, prayer, rest and sleep.
Are very pourous "have no skin"
Image self as a pipe to flow through for healing.

Entity Contamination Release -
Dear God, I ask that all souls, energy patterns and entities be sent on their spiritual evolution for the highest good and mutual benefit of everyone concerned.

Image your auric shield moving & flowing.

*** Myself personally, I like that philosophy pray and let go. I try not to repeat the "same" prayer over and over as this reflects doubt and impatience and tends to drag me back down.

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Dervish
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posted April 24, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
I seem to pick up a lot from people. It's hard to say for sure because most of the time I can't verify it, but others say for sure I can read minds & moods. A lot of that was just plain survival, be it living with my alcoholic and unpredictable 'rents to living on the streets, but it became much more than that.

Something I do that may be a form of shielding: I see "people" (this is to include their energy, "space," etc, so in a surrealistic sense) as flowing around me, like there's an indestructible bubble around me. At the very least this is a psychological trick to remember my space so people don't walk over me, and when people enter my "space," they virtually always change a little (though I catch my posture and like changing in response, too, which I'm sure also has an affect).

One day I plan to experiment by letting that shield down and just letting everything flow through me...but right now I'm just not willing to take that chance. And I still remember vividly the guy who spread I had a demon in me after I read his mind back when I was 14 (by his own admission, saying I was responding to what he was thinking rather than what he was saying).

Another thing I do is I have a room that's MINE. From time to time I just retreat here and this is my space, when the door is closed no one is allowed in, and they're not to disturb me for anything that isn't truly important and needing immediate attention (I leave stickits outside to stick to my door, too). Anyone who lives with me must respect this. But I understand that's normal for Librans in general (at least the ones who wish to avoid a mental and/or nervous breakdown).

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eskimono
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posted April 24, 2010 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message
Dervish - yes - that is how I have always thought of it - having a highly developed instinct/intuition (probably borne out of necessity). I am definitely not psychic. I have learned to follow my instincts, and they rarely let me down.

CPN - the same for me - I sense peoples energy, I recognise changes in energy which means I know that something is wrong (they are lying, they are scared, I have said something that upset them etc etc........). It can be both a blessing and a curse in an office environment. Like you, I pick it up from certain people here as well - but is that a honed perception/instinct? I think I get it from the way they respond to things, rather than any sixth sense?? I tend not to respond, as I think people often don't recognise it in themselves, the last thing they want is someone else pointing it out?

BTW - you recognised it in me a few weeks back, and was the one person that really helped. I conquered a demon and moved on light years. His response when I was singing MC Hammer in my head? He turned the air conditioning up and said 'ice ice baby'!

I don't pick up anything from the general public, but then I think I am 'closed' there.

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Deliverance
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posted April 24, 2010 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
cpn_edgar_winner,

I'm empathic to the extreme - Pisces Moon in the 3rd Conj IC, Neptune in the 1st & Chiron conj South node. I'm not going to go into detail, but it's something that I've utilised with previous jobs & it's also affected my relationships. I'm no longer a 'sponge', it took a lot of effort to prevent this from happening, but was well worth it.

Empaths are so sensitive & naturally feel things on a deeper level than most....it's beautiful quality once one can manage it.


The actions that have helped me are:

- Only associating with people who are good for me.(sounds selfish, but it's vital for my wellbeing)

- Consciously shielding my energy field - It's 2nd nature now.

- Being assertive

- Not getting swept into other peoples dramas

- Grounding & clearing my energy

- Self healing with Reiki

The following audiobook has helped me in the past, it's a must for empaths and sensitives it's called: Positive Energy Practices: How to Attract Uplifting People and Combat Energy Vampires by Judith Orloff


Hope this helps.

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Spanky Butler
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posted April 24, 2010 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Hey CPN

What Deliverance said here is the first step that will give instant results for you.

quote:
Consciously shielding my energy field - It's 2nd nature now


Here is a technique that I am giving a workshop on soon called the Eggshell Technique.

http://www.angelslove.net/protection_clearing_releasing.htm

I cannot recommend this enough cpn. You should be aware that the first time will take a bit of effort but afterwards you might find that it only takes 2 minutes to maintain.

Love you

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mermaid26
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posted April 24, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Nice info Deliverance and Spanky. I'm in a casual therapy group that begins with a Calming Meditation by a Reiki healer and I'm with kindred spirits. Positive Law of Attraction at work, I do believe.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 25, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
dleiverance - you wrote - The actions that have helped me are:

- Only associating with people who are good for me.(sounds selfish, but it's vital for my wellbeing)

- Consciously shielding my energy field - It's 2nd nature now.

- Being assertive

- Not getting swept into other peoples dramas

- Grounding & clearing my energy

- Self healing with Reiki
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I have been really avoiding negative people in the last few years, including a few friends that just drained me, for some reason.

good suggestions everyone - thatnks.

spanky - i love you too, i will check out the link.

eskimoo - i wanted to make you feel better - pa used to do that for me with her humor quite often, one reason i love her.

reiki is something i am interested in.

dervish - i can see how that would happen. sinstinctive survival, been there too.

thanks again for all of your imput everyone.

very helpful suggestions

mermaid - funny you mentioned cayce, i actually use one of his remedies that calms and clears me. i should do it more often as it really helps.

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Cancer/Scorpio729
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posted April 25, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, I actually never stopped myself from being flooded by another's feelings. If they are highly negative, I put up with them as long as I need to and stay away as much as I can. Feeling like I have to save everyone was a feeling I grew up with, so I didn't realize that was a bad thing.
From what I've heard though, white light protection, grounding, and meditation should be practiced by empaths. Also, exercise and breath awareness are really important here. A shielding exercise I read about somewhere said to imagine yourself as made up completely of light so that solid objects and unwanted energies pass right through you. This is supposed to work for people who are bad at closing themselves off. Hope this helps!

Btw: I love your username Spanky!!!

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