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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 28, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
is it just me, or do a lot of then seem judgemental and bitter?

non meat eaters- is it just me - or do a lot of them seem judgemental and bitter?

fundamental christians - is it just me - or do a lot of them seem judgemental and bitter?

maybe it is just people who take up a cause to the point it takes over thier life and ends up making them judgemental and bitter. i am not sure.

but i have seen in life through the years, that people who constantly push others aways with bitterness and judgemental attitudes, end up very lonely. time waits for no one, and pushing people away time and again...then the next thing you know 10 years or 20 years have gone by....and they look around wondering where did everybody go?

well, the fact is, you told them to go to hell so many times, they went to new york instead and forgot to send you the memo.

sorry no one is available to take your call at this time. please hang up and try your call again later.

be whatever you want in life, but don't get bitter, when others don't eat, breathe, believe or live the same way that you do. you are only hurting yourself.

and i kindly will try to remember to do the same. because everyone matters, everyone is different, and i never want to be lonely and not have the people i love around me from pushing them away.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 28, 2010 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message

this is for those of you who thought there would be an award in here.

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MysticMelody
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posted April 28, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry ahead of time for offending people but I am laughing so hard it hurts. The award did it.

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Glaucus
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posted April 29, 2010 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I have been a lacto ovo vegetarian since December 30th of last year, and I don't feel a need to preach about not eating meat. People have their own paths to follow. Therefore, who am I to tell people what they should or should not be doing?


To each,his/her own.


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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

http://people.tribe.net/4b0cf8c4-1fc3-4171-92d3-b0915985bf95/blog

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wheels of cheese
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posted April 29, 2010 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
I hope I don't sound judgmental about being a non-breeder. I'll have to change my tune pretty fast if someone knocks me up won't I?

See there's always that danger isn't there?

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Yin
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posted April 29, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Isn't it also true, cpn, that it is good to find like-minded people in this world that can support your ideals and are on the same page as you?
Isn't it true that if you are not finding consolation when you are looking for it, you can get bitter and disillusioned?

I honestly don't know if I am a non-breeder.
All I know is that I don't want any children of my own because I feel a terrible responsibility not to contribute new life to this world. There is plenty of life around me. Plenty of children that don't have mothers. You ask my mom what she thinks about me adopting, she'll just roll her eyes at you. Such is life. I love you, mom.

Would I abort if I became pregnant? I'll make sure it doesn't happen first but accidents do happen. The answer is: I don't know.

It saddens me to see people getting ahead of themselves and having 18 children and counting.

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MysticMelody
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posted April 29, 2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Yin, NEVER have an abortion.

My mother made me have one at 17. I didn't understand until it happened. When I was 21 I held a kitten in my arms while she passed. Gaia. I felt her pass. It was a little hard for her but mostly peaceful.

Imagine the energy you might feel if you watched someone get torn to pieces in front of you. Now imagine it is someone you know and they lunge forward and grab onto your arm as they are bloodily torn apart. Now imagine it is a soul mate sent by God and they are being torn apart inside you.

I believe this is where a lot of my darkness stems from... I didn't understand but something was telling me not to... I felt horribly frightened and kept saying I didn't want to do it... but I did. I murdered life. I murdered my baby.


No one told me. I'm telling you, just in case. ♥

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 29, 2010 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
this is an original idea folks! extrememly insightful and fresh new idea! I might even be a ...dare I say it?......genious.

Raymond - you never push your views on others, nor do you ever push others away, you will never be lonely, you love people, and it shows.

it's when you think your lifestyle makes you better somehow than other people, to the point that you push them away...that you end up old and alone.

Yin - to breed or not to breed is not the question. yes, people do need like minded people and can find comfort there, but others as well. my experience has shown me when they only accept like-minded people, eventually they find something they disagree on, can no longer be friends, one by one, and then....the years roll by and they end up old and alone with nothing but cats for company. its quite sad. the cause doesn't matter. the judgemental superior attitude seals the deal.


To accept or not to accept others, as they are, realizing, with SOME level of maturity that we all need other people, we all have flaws and faults and deciding to love them anyway...even if they like steak and expensive things. that is the answer.

i just added on to my house. my house has is more htan big enough for my husband and myself and any guests we may have. but the kitchen was a bit small, and i wanted a more comfortable dining space so when i entertain and or have my children, thier friends and grand child over, there will be plenty of room for everyone to stretch out and be comfortable and dine together. do i feel bad for not giving the money i used for the addition to feed the hungry? i say no, i contribute to those who need a helping hand. i work hard, i will not withhold good things from myself. i feel all things are here to be enjoyed. i feel the work of my hands makes building my dreams and wants strong
and sure.

Now if i accept people who don't feel the way I do about it. that is great. that is generous, that shows love of people, because humanity is people. each person.
NOw if someone judges me and feels superior saying that money should have went to charity, and do you really need marble anything? isn't that indeed thier problem, not mine? so, they choose to alienate me for disagreeing and not upholding the highest of standards. but ultimately ,....who do they hurt?

if no one meets your standards...who does it hurt..you or them?

i know this is a totally NEW way of thinking.

but i know enough people who are in thier 60-70-80 who are so very alone because they alientate or don't accept others, until it is just sad.

i wnat to be surrounded by the imperfect people i love in my golden years. i want to enjoy, and try not to judge others. in fact, celebrate their differences. i would rather have a loving home full of imperfect people, than the sound of my own grumpy ramblings to a cat that only stays because it can't open the door and get out too. life goes by pretty darn quick. everyday we make choices that affect our future. how we treat others is a big part of it.

celebrate our diversity!

diversity is wonderful!

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Yin
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posted April 29, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message

Wow, Melody.
I hope I never have to make that choice.
I am so sorry for your loss.

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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
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When I was 21 I held a kitten in my arms while she passed. Gaia. I felt her pass. It was a little hard for her but mostly peaceful.

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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think it's fair for anyone to judge. Even though now I've become more aware of what is going on in the world and personally wish to wait until an ascension or something (lol) until I ever think about having any more....it is not for me to judge anyone who chooses to. There is not one of us who really knows what this life is all about, at the end of the day. For all we know life could be meaningful and purposeful. Maybe souls need to incarnate into the physical bodies here as part of some universal plan for spiritual growth and experience. We just don't know. By all means philosophize....but when we try to push our own beliefs onto others, then we are not acting wisely.

We haven't got a clue what all this is about. We just have to follow our hearts; our own hearts.

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teasel
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posted April 29, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend who says that she never would have sorted herself out, and made a life for herself, had she not had her little boy as a teenager (he is now in college). I wish I had time to find her post about it, on another site, but I don't.


MM.

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be whatever you want in life, but don't get bitter, when others don't eat, breathe, believe or live the same way that you do. you are only hurting yourself.

and i kindly will try to remember to do the same. because everyone matters, everyone is different,


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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 29, 2010 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
LTT - you have always been wise beyond your years.

Jesus said -

and i say unto you, love one another

judge not, lest you be judged.

ask, and you shall recieve, you have not because you ask not

Have life, and have it more abundantly

by the same measure you meet, it will be measured to you again

God is no respector of persons ( it means all are equal in his eyes)

so who are we to say, if you eat meat you are bad? if you have children it is wrong? who are we to say that to each other? we have no right.

just love each other. whether we eat meat or abstain from it. whether we have 7 children, or adopt an orphan.

the truth is, in giving we recieve. be it monetary. be it love, be it acceptance, be it anything. what you give, you ultimately recieve.

but it is very sad to me to see old people who have reaped what they have sown, pushing people away ....and then, no one is there for them when the days once again stretch long in older years.


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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
I don't judge meat eaters because I understand that if I start harping on about an ascension of the entire eco-system...not everyone is going to understand.

However, I can damn well say that factory farms need to be banned.

cpn_edgar_winner, why thank you.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted April 29, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
LTT - yes indeed. unfair treatment of animals. unfair treatment of humans. hazardous ..unsanitary conditions and poverty are all worthy causes.

everyone should pitch in and do thier part, everyone should have a cause, but if they don't, i am not the person to judge them. i am not the person to aleinate them, nor am i the person to say, i am right and you are wrong. If i only love people that do as i do, what good am i? if i only love the people that think as i think, what good am i? my voice at that point is just a tinkling bell.

and eventually if i become fanatical about my beliefs, i will ultimately end up alone and old. no one left to be better than, because they all went on and lived thier lives. i know many older people like this. many.

i ask, where is your daughter now? well, i don't know, i haven't spoke to her in 20 years. where are your brothers and sisters? i don't know it has been years since we disagreed on something and i just don't know. ok.. ms so-and-so, we will have to send to a facility to recouperate after your operation. in the medical field they actually just call it having no support system in place.

i would hate to live a full 70 some years and not have one person who i have loved and loves me enough to take care of me when i am in need, due to me not accepting them for whatever reason. and if you talk to and listen to these people they will eventually spill it.

i didnt like my daughters husband, so we havent talked in 30 years. she turned to islam and i am a christian. i am a christian and i can't accpept her lesbian lifestyle. there is always a story of a breech in love. a superior attitude. a judgeemntal attitude. a reason. there is always a reason not to love. there is always a reason they are alone.

not always, but usually it is a case of reaping what they have sown.

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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 29, 2010 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that people get over zealous, and bitter.

I can't even understand the religious ones, because the bible says "judge not, lest ye be judged," but they are the people clucking their tongues at everything you do.

Why aren't they in church if they are so religious? Why are they knocking on my door?

My FIL said my children were going to hell because they were not baptized. He only got baptized himself last year.
I haven't properly baptized them yet, because I need my first husband to sign annullment papers in order for the church to recognize my "divorce." It's stupid, I know, but if they are to be baptized, I want them to be baptized Catholic, and so do they.
I'm thinking of forging his stupid signature. Yes, LIE to the church. LOL.

Whatever, right?
Oh, and the worst soap boxers has to be, reformed smokers. Good lord, leave me alone! It's my lungs, and if I want to inhale over cleaner, it's my business.

BTW, Yin never lectures or judges me about eating chicken. I love her for that.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted April 29, 2010 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
This thread came at the right time,I am grateful.Thats all I really have for now.

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starkiss1
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posted April 29, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Yin,
I get a vibe from you. Though your boyfriend disagrees. Sorry.

Once I felt a LIFE inside me, I felt compelled to let Her be born. She belonged to this world.

Love and Peace to you, girl.

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starkiss1
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posted April 29, 2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message

Babies sometimes do not ask their prospective parents when to come into this world. They just come. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not try for a baby. I was not prepared to have a baby. The thing was, She forgot to ask me. She chose me as her gate to come into this world. She just HAPPENED to me. So my choice was either to have her or abort her. I did not consider an abortion for even a second. She was a Soul who wanted to come into this world. Who was I to deny her desire to do so? To deny another soul's LIFE? Big issue, don't you think? That's exactly how I thought. My family, including her father, wanted her aborted. I wasn't having it. She is now almost 20 and starting her career. She was the best thing which happened to me in my life. She used to be that tiny little seed in my womb which I refused to abort. She is a Soul which chose me as her parent and I am enormously proud of it. She deserved a LIFE and I welcomed her into this world.

This is how I see it.

MM ((( )))

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AcousticGod
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posted April 29, 2010 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yin's never condemned my meat-eating either.

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listenstotrees
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posted April 29, 2010 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
And just as we should learn to be less judgmental of others, we should learn to be less judgmental of ourselves. I have wondered if guilt is in fact destructive as opposed to useful. If we can learn to simply learn from our mistakes then do we actually need to keep hurting ourselves by living in the past?

Hugs.

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SunChild
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posted April 29, 2010 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
MM just want to say I can relate very closely in detail to your story. Except it wasn't my mother it was my partner at the time, it didn't affect me much then, but now it does greatly. No one told me either... I have to live with it now. I like to think the soul has incarnated again as one of my children. However, I really didn't know better at the time. I thought it was perfectly ok. Just a procedure....


LTT, you said it.

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Valus
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posted April 30, 2010 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

MM, SunChild,

I have sympathy
for what you experienced.

At the same time,
I know a number of women,
all very sensitive people,
who have had abortions
and are extremely,
unrepentantly,
happy they did.

To be honest,
I think their unborn children
are probably very happy
about it, too, lol.
That counts, right?

And there must be tons of women
who didn't have one, but wish they had.

God, I'd hate to be their kid.

Wouldn't you?

Carry on.

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