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starr33
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posted July 05, 2011 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Say it isn't so! I'm so sorry, Caylee. I'm so very sorry. She'll kill again. My spelling sucks!

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posted July 05, 2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this makes me so angry that i now have a headache....

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted July 05, 2011 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was hungry. Now I've lost my appetite. I've got to call the library and let them know.

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posted July 05, 2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Video of verdict
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/07/casey-anthony-jury-reaches-verdict/1

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posted July 05, 2011 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another sociopath gets away with murder.

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pire
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posted July 05, 2011 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say, let the judgmental people follow the crowd, be among themselves.

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posted July 05, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's not confuse being judgmental with discrimination, Pire. Anyone who doesn't report their child missing for 31 days, even if she is innocent of murder, should at least serve time for child neglect, added to the sentence she cost detectives (time and money), leading them on a wild goose chase.

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posted July 05, 2011 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
George doesn't look entirely satisfied with the verdict to me. He's been lying to himself for so long about this, and possibly many other things about his duaghter even before this tragedy. But he knows. He knows.

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posted July 05, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starr33:
Let's not confuse being judgmental with discrimination, Pire. Anyone who doesn't report their child missing for 31 days, even if she is innocent of murder, should at least serve time for child neglect, added to the sentence she cost detectives (time and money), leading them on a wild goose chase.

yes

and she did 3 years in jail already

the charges in this case were MURDER, did she kill her daughter? and the jury said no, more correctly, cause we don't know the motive of the jury, it is safe to say that they were not convinced by the prosecution that she did kill her daughter.

now everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. and that is what many people did during 3 years from what I gather. even though they were safely seating in their sofa while she was waiting in a cell 23hours a day, waiting to be judge and potentially killed.

I say it is easy to judge when we are not on the line.

But I followed the trial and even though at times I had some questions, I was not convinced either by the allegations of the prosecution. there was no cause of death proven, no manner of death (Dr spitz if I recall, mentioned the difference) no proof whatsoever. you don't kill someone because she lies. or do you? in which world does this happen?

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posted July 05, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Verdict reaction video.

This guy nailed it. "If she didn't do it, who did?"

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=ebec2d40-4342-4f83-90fb-4023eab211e3


That's your opinion Pire, and although I don't repect it, I value your right as a human being to share it. Does that make sense?

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posted July 05, 2011 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who did it?

my question is did WHAT?

true a kid died, but then, you need to come with proof if you accuse someone of killing her.

for having followed the trial, there was nothing that was so obvious as the frenzy circus was repeating over and over, at least during the trial, since I am in france and could only judge the bias from the medias when I was following the trial.

it was so unbearable to be told what to think and to have no room left to make my own opinion that I had to change the channel on which I followed the trial. I first watched it on WFTV but switched for local 6. It was still the same slant (?) but slightly less. they were more objective.

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posted July 05, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and by the end of the day, just watching the trial, I could see that the evidence were missing. there was some questions such as why did she lie about the nany for example, and it made me look at her in a suspicious way, but I was aware that she was tried for MURDER.

that she was potentially sentenced to death. and rethorics don't make someone guilty. facts do. there were none regarding the murder. one by one, the evidence given by the state were falling apart. I think the more telling, but you just need to go back to watch it entirely to see the others, but the most telling lack of evidence, or misleading "proofs" were the 84 chloroform searches on the internet. it appeared that the software used to find those number was not accurate.

it was the same for everything else.

ok she had a tatoo saying "la vita bella" done aftyer caylee was supposedly dead. that is compelling, but it doesn't mean she KILLED her daughter.

it can mean plenty other things IMO, and in the opinion of the jury, which luckily are the only one that matter!!!!

I look for the link where you can follow the entire trial if you want to make you own opinion. good luck it's looooooong!

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posted July 05, 2011 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
week one http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/FE037DD2B5792CE0

week 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/DE8C1750F1EA34E5

week 3 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/0450E3B32BDA7F7A

week 4 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/696C83A7328ACCAF

week 5 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/36FFEE0E1296EFBF

week 6 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/E2D8586DD9C10805

june 30th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/250D953CE333D4C3

july 1st http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/5FC403E8F45767F8

july 3rd http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/2A1EF8BAD490CC76

july 4th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/69DC9218AC55C194

july 5th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/082AA4F4E05F739C

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posted July 05, 2011 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The jury didn't say no, pire. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict her of murder. Just because the law has the final say, doesn't make it right. Casey's actions speak for themselves. I probably shouldn't say this as a moderator, but Pire: Get your head out of your @ss.

You're so full of sh!t in your pursuit of getting a rise out of people on such a delicate issue. So, I'll play. You think you have guts? You only pretend to be unique in your views by taking the opposite side just beacuse your sick of seeing and hearing the same thing. There's a good reason why you do, pire. And that "kid"? Her name was Caylee.

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posted July 05, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The jury didn't say no, pire. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict her of murder. Just because the law has the final say, doesn't make it right. Casey's actions speak for themselves. I probably shouldn't say this as a moderator, but Pire: Get your head out of your @ss.

You're so full of sh!t in your pursuit of getting a rise out of people on such a delicate issue. So, I'll play. You think you have guts? You only pretend to be unique in your views by taking the opposite side just beacuse your sick of seeing and hearing the same thing. There's a good reason why you do, pire. And that "kid"? Her name was Caylee.


I am off to bed cause it's night time here in france. but I'd like to reply to you

first thing, you behave as you decide. mod or not, I don't care. I am not concerned by that aspect anymore. I am not involved with the politics of here anymore.

now regarding what you say:

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"The jury didn't say no, pire. They just didn't have enough evidence to convict her of murder."

what do you mean by, "the jury didn't say no" ? no to what? sorry I really don't know what you talks about in this particular instance. but regarding the second sentence I am quoting, indeed, there was not enough tangible proof to sentence casey anthony. and I find it relieving to think that YOU live in a country that take the importance of prooving an accusation at heart. that is what did the jury today, and this way held high the moral standard in your country.

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"Just because the law has the final say, doesn't make it right."

and that is why we have politics (not the men, but the art), to create laws. if they are not right change them. but remember that everyone is equal under the law, unless you want to change that as well ???

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"Casey's actions speak for themselves. I probably shouldn't say this as a moderator, but Pire: Get your head out of your @ss."

so do yours. (actions)

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"You're so full of sh!t in your pursuit of getting a rise out of people on such a delicate issue. So, I'll play."

I am not playing. I am stating my opinion after following the trial almost every days. have you watched it or have you been fed by tv news? then we'll talk if you want, and not play. as for getting a rise in people out of a delicate issue, well guess what, it does get a rise out of me that in a supposed democracy that invades other countries to share their freedom, right, law and order, they all gang up on some young 20 something mother and judge her guilty before HEARING the proof, unlike the jury who did hear them and found her NOT GUILTY. now you can watch the videos of the trial I posted them for you.

again not trying to get a rise out of anyone, just stating my truth.

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"You think you have guts? You only pretend to be unique in your views by taking the opposite side just beacuse your sick of seeing and hearing the same thing."

well, I must inform you that in france this case doesn't make the headlines, in fact I never heard it mentioned over here in the press or the TV. never. and it is not personal, well for me at least. I have compassion for a woman that a trial has proven to me that NOTHING given as evidence by the state prooves her guilt of what she's accused. I understand that she was a young mother, that her babby died, it could have been an accident and it is more likely since the theory given by the state was not proven by facts.

I understand everyone is different, some are young and responsible, some are not, some are made responsible adults by their parents, some are not, and casey never fully grew into a mother's role besides cuddling her daughter as seen on videos. that role was occupied by her own mother. so she remained imature and kept partying.

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"There's a good reason why you do, pire."

now you must enlighten me on that one.

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"And that "kid"? Her name was Caylee."

wow, you seem to know a lot about this kid

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posted July 05, 2011 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter, Pire. I just took a nice juicy shower, and realized there's no point in getting worked up. Caylee's safe, happy and loved. That's all that counts right now. At least to me.

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posted July 05, 2011 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starr33:
Let's not confuse being judgmental with discrimination, Pire. Anyone who doesn't report their child missing for 31 days, even if she is innocent of murder, should at least serve time for child neglect, added to the sentence she cost detectives (time and money), leading them on a wild goose chase.

You're right, she was charged with child neglect back in 2008, and also for filing a false report (lying to the police).

Well, I guess you can blame the State of Florida for being incompetent because after 3 years this girl's death is still a mystery. I hope they find some evidence, some good evidence this time, that leads to a killer, because to me I do believe she was murdered as shown by her body being thrown in the woods, the question is who did it and how? Why no teeth admitted that would have shown HARD EVIDENCE for the presence of chloroform?? Someone needs to test those teeth, or maybe they did and there was hard evidence that there was no chloroform. So many questions remain..........

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posted July 05, 2011 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Another sociopath gets away with murder.

TRUEFACTS. I have never been so angry about a high profile case. Even my classmates and our patients at the hospital were riled up when the verdict came out (in a hospital in the afternoon).

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posted July 05, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But he knows. He knows.

So, when exactly was the last time you were in contact with George Anthony?

All you people think you know what's in their minds and that that means facts. This is why people like you weren't on the jury. Thank God.

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posted July 05, 2011 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"People like you" Good one, Lonake. Aren't you intelligent.

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posted July 05, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bias isn't hard to see, m'dear. Sorry you're having a bad day

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posted July 05, 2011 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't start this thread to hurl insults and be insulted, but that's what it seems this has turned into. I think this case has wormed its way into our hearts and minds more than we care to admit.

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posted July 05, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one is insulting you in my view. So many people are tied to her being found guilty, and she just wasn't. Nothing to get emotional over, of course. You had to assume she was innocent until proven guilty. That is the U.S. Justice system at one of its most simple points.

An unbiased jury returned its verdict, and that's it. Like I said, Thank God they were unbiased and untainted and kept a clear head.

Unfortunately it's not over as the death remains a mystery in the court's pov. And I do hope to see good evidence come to light, so it's still wait and watch here for me. I wasn't even this interested in OJ as he was a celeb, so I will still be mulling this one over for a while.

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posted July 05, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The system isn't perfect.

Plenty of people that are guilty are let go on technicalities or because there isn't enough evidence. Likewise, plenty of innocent people are sent to jail on less circumstantial evidence than in this case. There are LOTS of times the system fails.

I wonder if Casey was a large, brutish, tattoo'd minority male from the wrong side of the tracks if it the verdict would have been the same. I don't really believe so.

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posted July 05, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly, thank you, no good Evidence. The state came up short and rightfully lost. Now they have to lick their wounds and sit with it and learn from it for their next case.

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I wonder if Casey was a large, brutish, tattoo'd minority male from the wrong side of the tracks if it the verdict would have been the same. I don't really believe so.

All I know is that if Caylee were black this case would have never seen the attention that it has. It always seems to be the healthy pretty well adjusted white kids that the media sensationalizes and agonizes over.
Also, in your scenario, you're talking about a man, and the U.S. assumes the burden of parental responsibility to still rest solely on the mother, which is what angered many re: this case.

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