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iQ
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posted January 08, 2012 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anybody played this game? I always find it a bit difficult to clear the Advanced Level in less than 10 minutes.

But this is not the reason I am posting this.

Just how is it possible for my four year old brat to finish the advanced game in less than 2 minutes? "Here you go dad" he says after solving it, snatching the game from me every time he sees I am stuck, then gets back to his toddler toys.

He finished about 100 puzzles of the beginner stage in less than 30 minutes last week.

Is this normal? I know kids are smarter in video games and shooting games but this game is all about spatial intelligence. I do not think this is normal. I am not bragging but am serious, because if this is abnormal and my son is actually a prodigy in spatial stuff, then I have to meet his teachers and request them to focus on this skill.

Please share your views, anybody who has played this game. I am ready to upload a video of him solving this in less than one minute.

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posted January 08, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I know you are serious but your son sounds so cute and the whole exchange hilarious.
My answer: I don't know the specific game but I play something similar on my phone and it does need to unlock so you have to be fast.
I'm known to kick some a$$ on certain games esp. if they are on beginners' level. Plus I am very fast. But I'm also an adult with a Phd! So how old exactly is your son? I say a serious discussion with his teachers is definitely in order! Congrats!

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posted January 08, 2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to young kids and games, or any learning technique that fully grabs there attention and disguises learning as "fun", the skill and learning curve is generally quite exponential

They can easily out do an adult at such things Your child is most likely not even thinking about how to solve the puzzle, due to it now being a mostly kinesthetic experience for them -nods-

Feed them more game

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posted January 08, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You son sounds highly instinctively aware in problem solving skills and all.

My son and others I knew became so lost in games, they might as well been like this cartoon.
I know of several adults, some well over 40 years old who live in darkness, have food delivered, on welfare, and literally doing nothing but living in virtual reality worlds and games.
Yes games can be good, but not 24/7.
And how many 4 year olds will will benefit and how many will eventually turn into anti-social paranoid recluses like my about 200 IQ super genius age mid 40s sibling, and others I know?
These people have virtually no practical social skills.
Some I knew of were over 50 and still living with their parent(s) instead of having real social lives.

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posted January 08, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well with all things, balance is key -nods-
But as a pure learning tool, games are leagues above traditional methods

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posted January 08, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Well with all things, balance is key -nods-
But as a pure learning tool, games are leagues above traditional methods


I agree with the first part but not with the second completely.
No one learning method is superior to all.

That is evident by the illiteracy and poor grammar/spelling and lack of geographical knowledge and basic common sense by too many
folks.

And games are not always the best or even right method for some folks.
That does not mean they are stupid.

On the other hand some mentally handicapped (ie; retarded folks, very low IQs)
can be video game wizards.
I guess it is the Idiot Savant thing.
They are overall still unable to function well or at all in real society.


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posted January 08, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
When it comes to young kids and games, or any learning technique that fully grabs there attention and disguises learning as "fun", the skill and learning curve is generally quite exponential

They can easily out do an adult at such things Your child is most likely not even thinking about how to solve the puzzle, due to it now being a mostly kinesthetic experience for them -nods-
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That is true.
Same for using comic books and graphic novels to get kids to take an interest in reading!
However,
one must also make sure they get the child involved in more than just games or things can go an undesired direction.
An addiction is still an addiction no matter what the source.

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posted January 08, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Society is naturally gravitating towards a gamer haven, and only time will bear the fruits of such -nods-

While it may have been a fringe or even outcast group 20 years ago, it will soon be the norm through assimilation. Those who do not "play" shall be left behind in one way or another... resistance is futile!



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posted January 08, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Society is naturally gravitating towards a gamer haven, and only time till bear the fruits of such -nods-

While it may have been a fringe even outcast group 20 years ago, it will soon be the norm through assimilation. Those who do not "play" shall be left behind in one way or another... resistance is futile!




I refuse to live here once it becomes a society of matrix like faux excuses for living,
no one aware of reality or others.
No one caring about others.
No one growing crops etc., no one doing anything but playing.
Worse, like in Serenity.
That sounds like a nightmare world to me.
Time to bail out on this planet for me then.
Bye bye.

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posted January 08, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's so cute!

kids have intuitive and flexible minds adults forget as they grow up, i guess. i don't know the game, but puzzle solving is good for the brains!

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posted January 08, 2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:

I refuse to live here once it becomes a society of matrix like faux excuses for living,
no one aware of reality or others.
No one caring about others.
No one growing crops etc., no one doing anything but playing.
Worse, like in Serenity.
That sounds like a nightmare world to me.
Time to bail out on this planet for me then.
Bye bye.


Lex, don't go!
I hear you. I can hear the other side too.
But I hear you loud and clear. Many of us can hear you in fact.

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posted January 08, 2012 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear LK, Lexx and Anongrl,
Thanks for the valuable inputs.

I am ensuring that my son does not play shooter-games, playstation stuff etc. He is very social, and I am not kidding that he is a complete brat and politely disobeys every body at home and in school. They made him the class monitor as the only way to keep him inside his classroom. Every other growth parameter and learning curve is normal [Alphabets, numbers, rhymes, toys, dancing, cartoons, watering plants, feeding the cat etc.]

Nothing prodigious shown until he unleashed himself on this one difficult game alone. It is very very difficult to consistently solve this game. Randomly moving the blocks gets us nowhere, and right now he is doing this by explaining to me that to move this block we have to move this etc etc. There is some method he has found on his own where he is sensing the outcome many moves ahead and he is enjoying every bit of my sudden surprised attention.

This is the game: http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/unblock-me-free/id315019111?mt=8

Review: http://www.appolicious.com/articles/236-unblock-me-is-the-perfect-puzzle-game

And now the interesting part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ody-eu34Ew

Look at the comments, some grown ups are having trouble for days to clear some Beginner Levels, my son got through them all in less than a minute each for most.

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posted January 08, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yeah I know it!
Check his kinesthetic skills as well. A big part of it is spatial-kinesthetic. Some people can resolve such puzzles "intuitively".
I solved a "puzzle" (a metal conglomeration of some sort in an uneven shape; you had to find a way to free a part of it from the whole when there was no obvious "opening" in the metal construction) that is considered unsolvable (lol I forgot its name) to everyone's surprise at a time when I was playing with it in my hands and listening to somebody talk (my rational brain was engaged in the conversation, yet my kinesthetic intelligence was still working in my hands).
Intelligence is a very complex thing and there are parts of it we have yet to pin down (my field is in artificial intelligence) so even if traditional methods were not matching this kind of intelligence of your son, it wouldn't mean that he is not prodigious.

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posted January 08, 2012 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:

Your child is most likely not even thinking about how to solve the puzzle, due to it now being a mostly kinesthetic experience for them -nods-


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posted January 08, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 08, 2012 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know but my four year old is the same - clocked the entire angry birds sets and I'll give her a go at unblock. when it comes to strategy and puzzle she astonishes me at her level of skill.

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posted January 08, 2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Dear LK, Lexx and Anongrl,
Thanks for the valuable inputs.

I am ensuring that my son does not play shooter-games, playstation stuff etc. He is very social, and I am not kidding that he is a complete brat and politely disobeys every body at home and in school. They made him the class monitor as the only way to keep him inside his classroom. Every other growth parameter and learning curve is normal [Alphabets, numbers, rhymes, toys, dancing, cartoons, watering plants, feeding the cat etc.]

Nothing prodigious shown until he unleashed himself on this one difficult game alone. It is very very difficult to consistently solve this game. Randomly moving the blocks gets us nowhere, and right now he is doing this by explaining to me that to move this block we have to move this etc etc. There is some method he has found on his own where he is sensing the outcome many moves ahead and he is enjoying every bit of my sudden surprised attention.

This is the game: http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/unblock-me-free/id315019111?mt=8

Review: http://www.appolicious.com/articles/236-unblock-me-is-the-perfect-puzzle-game

And now the interesting part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ody-eu34Ew

Look at the comments, some grown ups are having trouble for days to clear some Beginner Levels, my son got through them all in less than a minute each for most.


Sounds like you are giving him a well rounded education and life experiences/socialization, and letting him be a normal child!

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posted January 09, 2012 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lexx!

Anongirl, the thing is he is actually commenting about every move and then solving it, rather than intuitively using spatial-kinesthetic skill.

SunChild, if your four old is also cracking the unblock puzzle, then we can conclude that it might be a generational thing

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posted January 09, 2012 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Lexx!

Anongirl, the thing is he is actually commenting about every move and then solving it, rather than intuitively using spatial-kinesthetic skill.

SunChild, if your four old is also cracking the unblock puzzle, then we can conclude that it might be a generational thing



Wonderful! Actually commenting, thinking about it!
Of course when I was his age, there were no such things.
So I suppose if I'd grown up with such I would be like your son.
I did however repair radios and lamps and things and experiment with electricity even near that young. I had to take things apart to see what made them run, then put them back together again.

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posted January 09, 2012 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:

Anongirl, the thing is he is actually commenting about every move and then solving it, rather than intuitively using spatial-kinesthetic skill.

He's commenting, but does he REALLY make sense?
When you do something very many times, you can analyze with the rational mind what is going on after the fact BUT it doesn't mean the "analysis" or "commentary" is right (rationally).
Still, considering his age, I think he's definitely prodigious as I wrote above. Congrats!

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posted January 09, 2012 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol sounds like he took after his dad's analytical mind hehe

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posted January 09, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diablo is right!

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posted January 09, 2012 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point Anongirl. He licked me today again, and he is just loving the sheepish look on my face.
I asked other grown ups to try this, they just can't crack the advanced puzzles in this game.

@Diablo, I was nowhere close to him at 4 or even 7. Something changed in me at age 7-8 and have been a nerd ever since.

Lexx wrote:
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Of course when I was his age, there were no such things.
So I suppose if I'd grown up with such I would be like your son.
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True but you had amazing past life recalls, a powerful memory [I think from the first week?] and were prodigious in many skills, including Clairvoyance. He has been a normal kid all along and suddenly this happens.


I do not want to jump to bizarre conclusions but my first instinct was that this could be a spontaneous genetic "switch on", something positive about 2012 which we will see in many kids born after year 2000?

Maybe I detected this earlier because a game was available, what if millions of kids have suddenly grown smarter last week?

Meanwhile, here is the free shockwave format of this game. Level 14 is quite tough, it took me about 15 minutes to solve. My son gets it in 5 minutes, and my 30+ friend gave up after half an hour http://www.quickflashgames.com/games/unblock/
Do try this when you have some time, it can be a useful brainteaser.

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posted January 09, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol sounds like he took after his dad's analytical mind hehe

Heehee A family of geniuses.

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posted January 13, 2012 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok this game is SO HARD is it a joke or what! I can not pass the first one. Are you kidding IQ? Jees!

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