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Fondue Knight
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posted January 08, 2012 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I got an email from one of those dating site thingys notifying me that I have a new message. I haven't logged into this site in months because I just don't think I'm at the point with my life that I should be going around dating people. ANYWHO, I log in and the message read, "Hi! How are you?" which is just lazy as far as I'm concerned. After replying, against my better judgement, with generic pleasantries, I get a response that reads, "In doing ok, a bit ****** but whatever. How's your night?" Now... I don't get around much, but I WAS paying attention during Dating 101. WHY WOULD YOU OPEN A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE AND 2 SENTENCES IN MENTION THAT YOU'RE ****** ?! WHY is anyone in their right mind going to want to continue said conversation? I don't want to talk to someone in a shite mood unless they're already a friend, and even then... Ugh... This is like that date I went on last year in which conversation took a fatal turn down Daddy Issues Lane.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 08, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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ElizabethO
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posted January 08, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dude, Daddy Issues Lane is soooo much better than a guy with Mommy Issues! All that comes to mind is this dude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy

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NickiG
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posted January 08, 2012 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
at least its people in a bad mood....i always get people who want to talk about sex...

i even had one guy ask me to bounce on a balloon until it pops because it turns him on.......O__________O

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Ami Anne
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posted January 08, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
at least its people in a bad mood....i always get people who want to talk about sex...

i even had one guy ask me to bounce on a balloon until it pops because it turns him on.......O__________O




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Fondue Knight
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posted January 08, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
at least its people in a bad mood....i always get people who want to talk about sex...

i even had one guy ask me to bounce on a balloon until it pops because it turns him on.......O__________O


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!

You know, if they're not bitching about whatever issues they have, they're talking about sex. I just wanna be like...

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Dude, Daddy Issues Lane is soooo much better than a guy with Mommy Issues! All that comes to mind is this dude: ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy

While I think any such issues should be avoided when first getting to know someone, I suppose it does help me filter through guys.

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Cancer/Scorpio729
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posted January 09, 2012 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fondue Knight:

I am determined to use that one day, complete with martini and dismissive turning.


Males...pshaw...

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teasel
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posted January 09, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
at least its people in a bad mood....i always get people who want to talk about sex...

i even had one guy ask me to bounce on a balloon until it pops because it turns him on.......O__________O


Okay, that made me laugh out loud. Creepy, though.

I received more responses to my online profile, when I posted something about not being up for dating, that I was feeling bitter and defensive, etc. I did have a couple of sweet responses then, though - in amongst the mostly "sexy lady" comments - like one guy who told me that I was too pretty to hide (and for years I felt so ugly - probably my best years, looks-wise). I've been feeling like hell, and thought I looked like hell, so that was nice to hear.

So, I've been "that girl" that Fondue Knight refers to, briefly.

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 09, 2012 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:

i even had one guy ask me to bounce on a balloon until it pops because it turns him on.......O__________O


You know... I actually saw a program on TV about sexual taboos, and one of the dudes on there had a balloon fetish. He said that he'd never be able to have a girlfriend unless she was into popping balloons with him. To each they own...

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 09, 2012 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Okay, that made me laugh out loud. Creepy, though.

I received more responses to my online profile, when I posted something about not being up for dating, that I was feeling bitter and defensive, etc. I did have a couple of sweet responses then, though - in amongst the mostly "sexy lady" comments - like one guy who told me that I was too pretty to hide (and for years I felt so ugly - probably my best years, looks-wise). I've been feeling like hell, and thought I looked like hell, so that was nice to hear.

So, I've been "that girl" that Fondue Knight refers to, briefly.


There's a difference, though, between putting it on your profile that you're not into dating at the moment, and actively messaging someone out of the blue and making a point within the first couple of exchanges that you're p1ssed about something. At least you're not leading anyone on. Here I was thinking I might have a somewhat interesting conversation (my first mistake) when, lo and behold, I have a whiny diva on my hands. Ohhhhh gays.

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anongrl10
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posted January 09, 2012 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think "Sofia" from Golden Girls sums it up quite nicely. I'm equally turned off by online idiots who will message a "hi" which means they are missing the "conversation gene".

Oh, I know!
I also get the other type of idiots who cut and paste a long message about themselves which always somehow ends with "take care". And I'm left wondering "yeah, all this alright, but WHY are you messaging ME all this crap about YOU and why SHOULD I CARE?!"

When I want to get sb's attn, I don't approach them and start talking about ME! I approach them and talk about THEM, what made me approach them, why I'd like to get to know them better. Only if you are a narcissistic prick you will approach sb you like and start talking about YOU and YOU alone right from "hi".

It's just beyond me. As I said elsewhere, if you want to find even a bedroom partner (forget about anything more complicated), you need to be at least smart enough to know how to approach them. I'm not talking about lying! I'm talking about common sense, flirting/complimenting/being courteous, ways to get to know someone, ways to open a line of rapport, you know, what Fondue called "Dating 101".

How do these guys EVER get laid is beyond me!


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NickiG
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posted January 09, 2012 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
I think "Sofia" from Golden Girls sums it up quite nicely. I'm equally turned off by online idiots who will message a "hi" which means they are missing the "conversation gene".

Oh, I know!
I also get the other type of idiots who cut and paste a long message about themselves which always somehow ends with "take care". And I'm left wondering "yeah, all this alright, but WHY are you messaging ME all this crap about YOU and why SHOULD I CARE?!"

When I want to get sb's attn, I don't approach them and start talking about ME! I approach them and talk about THEM, what made me approach them, why I'd like to get to know them better. Only if you are a narcissistic prick you will approach sb you like and start talking about YOU and YOU alone right from "hi".

It's just beyond me. As I said elsewhere, if you want to find even a bedroom partner (forget about anything more complicated), you need to be at least smart enough to know how to approach them. I'm not talking about lying! I'm talking about common sense, flirting/complimenting/being courteous, ways to get to know someone, ways to open a line of rapport, you know, what Fondue called "Dating 101".

How do these guys EVER get laid is beyond me!


i sometimes like it when a guy gives this huge introduction about his likes and hobbies..because for one, if i like those things then i'll have something to talk to him about...plus, it gives me an idea of what kind of person he is (i dont mean narcissistic, lol)

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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sand
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posted January 09, 2012 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i felt i just needed to click on this.. dunno why.. don't even remember the title of the thread..

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anongrl10
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posted January 09, 2012 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
i sometimes like it when a guy gives this huge introduction about his likes and hobbies..because for one, if i like those things then i'll have something to talk to him about...plus, it gives me an idea of what kind of person he is (i dont mean narcissistic, lol)


No, Nicky, that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about guys you never saw before on online dating sites. For me, when I want to approach someone for the very 1st time, I will write something like this "Hi, I liked your profile. Esp. impressed about X. I also had done Y. and are you interested in Z?" Something along these lines! The starting point is WHY you are contacting them. The motivation, say you liked their photo, or you found their profile cool, or whatever. The VERY first email to a complete stranger cannot be a simple "hi" or a long insane email about yourself. Nobody cares at that point about YOU.

Let's put it this way.
If I get an email from someone whose profile I've never seen before and this is the very 1st contact, that says: "hi". I might respond with a "hi back". Not much conversation at that point, right? You hit a WALL.

Instead, let's say I get a message that reads like this: "Hi, I really like your photo and find you profile very interesting! How long have you done XYZ? Would you like to chat sometime?" My first reaction will be to look at his profile and see if I like him too. If I do, I will respond to his msg and to his very specific q's about ME and ask about HIM as well. Conversation guaranteed!

See the difference?

There is a time when you have to talk about you and that time is NOT when you first approach someone who is a complete stranger.

Like in real life, if I am approached by someone and he starts talking about himself, I will assume he's nuts and leave running!
If, instead, he approaches me with a compliment or something he noticed about ME, and I like what I see, I will respond with a smile and take it from there. See what I'm saying?

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T
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posted January 09, 2012 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg Nicky & here i thought i'd heard it all.

Gross.

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 09, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See? Anongrl paid attention in Dating 101, too.

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anongrl10
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posted January 09, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I aced it, man!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps the most lucrative job for me is teaching online dating manners for idiots.
Or, "Idiot's Guide to Online Dating 101".
Perhaps: "Online Dating for Idiots"?

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 09, 2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we could go into business together teaching in tandem. I'll take the American market and you take the European market.

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anongrl10
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posted January 09, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
I think we could go into business together teaching in tandem. I'll take the American market and you take the European market.


Done deal!!

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NickiG
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posted January 09, 2012 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
omg Nicky & here i thought i'd heard it all.

Gross.


lol...i can copy and paste the messages..it was...weird

but not going to for privacy reasons

and anon...i think we just respond differently to different first posts...i too dont respond to the singular "hi" but i might respond if a guy talks about his likes and hobbies

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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tautomer4314
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posted January 10, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fondue if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? The reason I ask is that younger guys are usually a bit crappy on sites. They haven't reached a good level of maturity yet. I find that I end up connecting with guys in their late 20's more often then not. Seems like almost anyone I end up liking is 28 or 29, and I am only 22. Also which dating sites are you using?

Seeing that we bark up the same tree, I can understand your frusterations with dating sites. It can be one bad thing after another. The things I have learned that are key to making dating sites work is to be SUPER clear with intentions, right away, and listen to your gut instincts. If you get a bad vibe from a guy and don't want to talk to him anymore, then why would you continue to do so? Simple as that. If someone can't communicate in a way that you can understand and work with in the beginning, then why would it work when you meet in person? Stick to your convictions and do not lower your standards.

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 11, 2012 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Fondue if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? The reason I ask is that younger guys are usually a bit crappy on sites. They haven't reached a good level of maturity yet. I find that I end up connecting with guys in their late 20's more often then not. Seems like almost anyone I end up liking is 28 or 29, and I am only 22. Also which dating sites are you using?

Seeing that we bark up the same tree, I can understand your frusterations with dating sites. It can be one bad thing after another. The things I have learned that are key to making dating sites work is to be SUPER clear with intentions, right away, and listen to your gut instincts. If you get a bad vibe from a guy and don't want to talk to him anymore, then why would you continue to do so? Simple as that. If someone can't communicate in a way that you can understand and work with in the beginning, then why would it work when you meet in person? Stick to your convictions and do not lower your standards.


I'm 26.

This encounter took place on OkCupid. BELIEVE me, my Virgo moon does not allow me to settle.

The reason I insist on carrying on conversation is the Uranus/Aqua in me. I'm just so curious about how they'll go about their online dating messaging methods! Even if I've made up my mind that there's no way in hell I'd even meet up with this person, there's still something to be gained by continuing to converse with them. I'm just amazed that some people think they can unload their baggage within the first couple of interactions with someone.

The dramatics of my OP can be blamed on my Venus in the 5th sextile Mercury.

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birdy
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posted January 11, 2012 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason for meeting idiots is because when you finally come across one who isn't, you know to cling on for dear life.
Basically you come to appreciate people when you get along with them. It's much more rare than people realize.

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anongrl10
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posted January 11, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's an age thing.
I'm 42, although I look younger than my age, and have encountered the same idiotic behavior with men from 28 to 50.
Immaturity has no age limits.

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Fondue Knight
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posted January 11, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Oh yeah. Big time. My personal favorite are the 50+ year old men who will message me looking for sex when I state perfectly clear that is not my thing and then get pissy when I either ignore them or reject their advances. God forbid people actually READ. My profile could say that I'm a leper with a raging case of herpes and I'd still have horny older dudes trying to hit it.

Again, this is poignant...

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