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Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 08:16 PM
  
I am not anti-Aquarius. I have an incredibly good idea of how that sign operates, having attracted Aquarius/Uranus people my entire life. It had to do with above poster's defensiveness & misapplication of a statement to a specific chart as a statement regarding her own level of fidelity. And then she just lost it. I will not preface all my astro statements w. "look at the whole chart - this is just one factor." This is implied, and if someone runs with a statement like that often enough, then they have no business studying astrology. And I've stated that here before. Because anyone *knows* you have to look at the whole chart AND factors *have to be added.* This is something so simple and so basic and yet people choose to forget cos they get defensive, cos it's usually something in their chart. Seriously. Other forums are not like this. BUT I don't plow into someone because of my defensiveness. I only do that if poked and *after* they've plowed into me. I will not be shamed because of a *correct* observation of a certain factor. And I am not the 1st to make such. I stand by it.
 And I approve this message. ***and for the record I myself have Aqua DSC, which is a Venus/Uranus factor*** IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 21, 2012 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
 Ami
Same to you, Betty
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Aquacheeka
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posted April 21, 2012 08:26 PM
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originall posted by Lonake:
For example Venus/Saturn sounds solid, but in Aquarius the person may screw around while bemoaning never finding the *one.* I know a Venus/Sun/Saturn in Aqua like that.
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originally posted by Lonake:
What sign do you think this girl is? Take a *wild* guess.
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (wild was a hint btw) . . . . . . . You wouldn’t have *ever* thought s(he) was an AQUARIUS, right? 
And that was just today. Tomorrow there will be others. But OK, Lonake. You have no anti-Aquarius bias. If you say so (yawn).
Oh, forgot to mention: Also not a fan of the condescenscion. I would ask what you think some of your flaws are but I don't want to stump you and take up your whole night . Here, let me say something which I think you'll find very agreeable: You are absolutely perfect, and thus should sit in your ivory tower passing judgment on everyone at all times 
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Aquacheeka
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posted April 21, 2012 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
This is something so simple and so basic and yet people choose to forget cos they get defensive, cos it's usually something in their chart.
Today I stated that Venus/Mars sextile or square can result in infidelity from what I have read. I have one or both aspects (depending on how the astrologer interprets). I didn't "lose it," as I stated on the original post, I take issue with misinformation being disseminated, and I did provide a link to a resource with 2,810 people with the indicated placement that you asserted was associated with disloyalty to verify my point about how it is objectively misinformation. If what was said were the case, a trend should have been immediately apparent but it was not. Making statements with authority, you are occasionally going to come up against people who may know more than you about a topic or otherwise disagree with reason and intent. Such is life (shrugs). IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted April 21, 2012 08:28 PM
Dude!
She likes Aquarius. She has an Aquarius Mercury.You had a classic online *Mis*-understanding! There is no tone of voice or body language to go on here. The definition of 'clean slate' is -- moving on and not dredging up the past This kind of thing can happen often on LL.. because it is an astrology site - and everyone will have different experiences, different opinions... and different styles of expressing things. We all have our own ideas when it comes to Astrology. For instance.. due to the amount of people I have met with Aries Venus.. I've formed an overall impression of how this placement may manifest.
I could put it tactfully - I usually DO.. because my Mercury is Pisces so I try to sound nice. But at the same time, if someone else is more straight-forward... they should be able to say what is on their mind in their own style. Lonake is very direct and to the point in what she says. This is not meant as tactless. It's simply *short* and sweet.
If she added a disclaimer, such as "Not all Aquarius Venus - or Venus/Uranus - people will be like this... but based on my own experience...etc... " it might sound nicer.
But frankly ^ if you got to know Lonake - the disclaimer is implicit in her personality. quote:
I think it was thoughtful to play the peacemaker. Libra by any chance
 I have Venus exactly conjunct my NN.. and a stellium in the 7th - but no Libra! lol IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted April 21, 2012 08:29 PM
oh wow your posts didn't load for me!!!How strange. I posted that right after your post ^ aqua! IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 21, 2012 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Dude!
She likes Aquarius. She has an Aquarius Mercury.You had a classic online *Mis*-understanding! There is no tone of voice or body language to go on here. The definition of 'clean slate' is -- moving on and not dredging up the past This kind of thing can happen often on LL.. because it is an astrology site - and everyone will have different experiences, different opinions... and different styles of expressing things. We all have our own ideas when it comes to Astrology. For instance.. due to the amount of people I have met with Aries Venus.. I've formed an overall impression of how this placement may manifest.
I could put it tactfully - I usually DO.. because my Mercury is Pisces so I try to sound nice. But at the same time, if someone else is more straight-forward... they should be able to say what is on their mind in their own style. Lonake is very direct and to the point in what she says. This is not meant as tactless. It's simply *short* and sweet.
If she added a disclaimer, such as "Not all Aquarius Venus - or Venus/Uranus - people will be like this... but based on my own experience...etc... " it might sound nicer.
But frankly ^ if you got to know Lonake - the disclaimer is implicit in her personality. I have Venus exactly conjunct my NN.. and a stellium in the 7th - but no Libra! lol
I have the "direct" placements as well (Mars in Sagittarius, Mercury in Aquarius), but like you I also have a stellium in the 7th. Inconsideration and (what I consider to be) unfairness really don't rub me the right way. And then my Mars sign comes out . Anyways ladies I'm in a bit of hurry, plans for the evening. Hope you have a good night!
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Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
You have no anti-Aquarius bias (yawn)
Yea you got me there (!)
Aquarius is *wild* and is assoc. with *rebellion.* If you did not know that, then you do now.
You are *projecting* which says nothing about me.
Maybe you dislike Aquarius, I don't know, but I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted April 21, 2012 08:57 PM
It's actually Sunday morning for me
Have fun aquacheeka!!---- From my perspective.. unfairness is when someone says something like: "People who have X-placement are cold hearted, nasty b@stards." We've had this kind of thing happen before, when someone is blatantly nasty. But saying "Aqua Venus MAY sleep around" - is very tame. There's a MAY in there.. from May-Be.. otherwise known as 'perhaps'.. 'potentially'.. expressing the fact that it is a *possibility*.
Another way to put it would be... "This is one possible way in which the Aqua Venus woman may choose to rebel against social norms".
There are many OTHER ways in which this aspect could manifest.
As Lonake was just saying - it's important to look at the whole chart etc (most of us know that!).. and also - many here will agree that we do have free will!
It's just that - it gets old to keep adding disclaimers sometimes. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 08:59 PM
Venus/Mars is related to increased sex drive. This makes it a possible factor.
Like I said, 1 factor cannot be read on its own re: your posted link.
You look at the charts of people like those 2 (like I have).
*They* are the rarity. You don't go looking for it when it doesn't exist, because that is misapplication.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted April 21, 2012 09:01 PM
In other words... All apples are fruits... but... not all fruits are apples!  IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Lonake is very direct and to the point in what she says.
I didn't think so. But maybe.
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Betty Boop
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posted April 21, 2012 09:04 PM
What I'm saying is...You can reach some conclusions in astrology.. if you research people's charts. For example - Lets say I researched 200 murderers charts... and I found out that a majority of them have a harsh Mars/Pluto aspect. I would take this ^^ to tell me that: "It is very likely for a murderer to have a Mars/Pluto aspect in his chart." BUT It would not tell me that: "It is very likely that ALL the people who have a Mars/Pluto aspect - will become murderers" :edit: It's the same thing, when it comes to what Lonake said. You might find a bunch of girls - who have a taboo, extravagant sexuality.. and you might find that they have a Venus/Uranus aspect (as Lonake has). This would tell you that WHEN you meet a girl who has such an extravagant -out there- sexuality, it is possible that she will have a Venus/Uranus aspect in her chart. But it would NOT tell you the *converse*.. that - every girl you meet who does have a Venus/Uranus aspect or an Aquarius Venus will behave this way. This is because, there are many different possible manifestation to the -same- placement/aspect. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:08 PM
^ Yes I agree.
And just between you and me Betty,
I know that her attacks are personal and she takes her crap out on me,
BECAUSE, her vicious lil Merc/Mars sq is conj my Sun/Uranus sq. Her Merc on my Sun sq her Mars on my Uranus.
Obviously the Mercury person listens to the Sun & cares what they have to say but her Mars can't help itself. In Sadge of course, a sign not known for self control. And squaring my Sun. She thinks I will take her abuse, all in the name of her being *open* and *just honest* but I most certainly will not. She has a lot of anger boiling in there but I will not be the recipient, as a proper rebellious Sun/Uranus sq person that I am.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 21, 2012 09:10 PM
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Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:11 PM
I will call it out when I see it.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
limited personal experiences
Says who, exactly?
There you again. Putting words in my mouth.
You don't know what I've experienced/researched so you have no grounds commenting on this matter.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 21, 2012 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Yes I agree.
And just between you and me Betty,
I know that her attacks are personal and she takes her crap out on me,
BECAUSE, her vicious lil Merc/Mars sq is conj my Sun/Uranus sq. Her Merc on my Sun sq her Mars on my Uranus.
Obviously the Mercury person listens to the Sun & cares what they have to say but her Mars can't help itself. In Sadge of course, a sign not known for self control. And squaring my Sun. She thinks I will take her abuse, all in the name of her being *open* and *just honest* but I most certainly will not. She has a lot of anger boiling in there but I will not be the recipient, as a proper rebellious Sun/Uranus sq person that I am.
I have seen this with her. I walk away when I people do these things to me. However, I am not saying that walking away is right in all situations. There is a time to Hold em and a time to fold em. However, you are NOT imagining Lonake as I feel the same way! I want to support your reality here Darling. I just have chosen a different path to deal with it! ------------------
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Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:15 PM
^ Well I think the element that is the deciding factor there is Sagittarius.
It adds some spark.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 21, 2012 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
From my perspective.. unfairness is when someone says something like: "People who have X-placement are cold hearted, nasty b@stards. We've had this kind of thing happen before, when someone is blatantly nasty.
What she actually said was, "People with X placement are perverse in relationships." I'll link to it when I have more time to find it
But yes, personally I think making such an assertion in a public forum based on the limited personal experiences you may have had speaks more of the individual's character making that assertion than the placement itself. Particularly when it's reinforced daily. Just my opinion! I see a lot disagreement and tactlessness not only towards me but in general coming from this individual on this forum (got two threads shut down in a 48-hour period because of instigating arguments/judgmental comments) and then she instigated another one with me here: www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213325-2.html. Very, very confrontational energy... personally, I see a lot of bitterness and lack of objectivity there. I have been called an astute judge of character on many, many occasions throughout my life and I am being objective since I don't know her placements. I'm going with my gut on this one and steering clear (in the hopes that she doesn't start with me again like she did today on the thread I just linked to).
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Ami Anne
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posted April 21, 2012 09:20 PM
Lonake
There are people who come on LL with the sole purpose of irritating people. Randall has taught me to walk away and it was a very hard lesson for me but a valuable one. I will always support those I love when they need me.I experienced the SAME thing with her. You are not imagining it. You are seeing it right. I want to put that in here. However, you may want to ignore people like that as they WANT to get a rise out of you. You are playing into their hands when you give them the rise. They LIVE for it. If you ignore them, they will torment someone else!
Love you, Lonake!------------------
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Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I see a lot disagreement and tactlessness not only towards me but in general coming from this individual on this forum (got two threads shut down in a 48-hour period because of instigating arguments) and then she instigated another one with me here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213325-2.html. Very, very confrontational energy... personally, I see a lot of bitterness and lack of objectivity there. I have been called an astute judge of character on many, many occasions throughout my life and I am being objective since I don't know her placements. I'm going with my gut on this one and steering clear (in the hopes that she doesn't start with me again like she did today on the thread I just linked to).
Calling out the truth and they didn't like it. I will continue to do so.
You can't fault me for being 'tactless' as you say as evidenced by your claims of such in your life, as you calimed to be proud of being provocative, arrogant, dogmatic, etc. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 21, 2012 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lonake
There are people who come on LL with the sole purpose of irritating people. Randall has taught me to walk away and it was a very hard lesson for me but a valuable one. I will always support those I love when they need me.I experienced the SAME thing with her. You are not imagining it. You are seeing it right. I want to put that in here. However, you may want to ignore people like that as they WANT to get a rise out of you. You are playing into their hands when you give them the rise. They LIVE for it. If you ignore them, they will torment someone else!
Love you, Lonake!
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Ami Anne
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posted April 21, 2012 09:24 PM
Aquacheeks
I see you as fomenting trouble! I have observed it and experienced it, myself.------------------
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aquaguy91
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posted April 21, 2012 09:24 PM
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