Lindaland
  Lindaland Central 2.0
  forgiveness

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   forgiveness
jesstar
Knowflake

Posts: 277
From: santa fe new mexico
Registered: Nov 2011

posted April 07, 2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jesstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgiveness and Forgiving , I am pondering their importance and weight in matters of living in harmony and peace. Would anyone like to shed a little light from your experiences with forgiving and forgiveness?

------------------
"We'll go because it's Thursday,"he said,"and we'll go to wish everybody a Very Happy Thursday.Come on,Piglet"
A. A. Milne

IP: Logged

Lexxigramer
Moderator

Posts: 647
From: The Etheric Realms.....Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat....
Registered: Feb 2012

posted April 07, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The concept of forgiveness predates Christianity by thousands of years, maybe even 30,000 years ago or much much longer ago.
For starters this article gives a fairly good overview. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgiveness
The concept of forgiveness most likely began
when the human race was still "in the caves" so to speak.
I feel that even the Neanderthals and other evolutionary offshoots of Cro-magnon
understood the concept also because some practiced caring death rituals for deceased members of their family/clans/group. To my thinking, such actions indicate a sapient thought and action process and therefore the
ability to most likely grasp and practice the act and concept of forgiveness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon

Forgiveness quotes:

quote:
There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness.
-- Josh Billings

Life appears to me too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrongs.
-- Charlotte Bronte

Forgo your anger for a moment and save yourself a hundred days of trouble.
-- Chinese proverb

"The man who opts for revenge should dig two graves."
-- Chinese proverb

When anger rises, think of the consequences.
-- Confucius

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi

"Forgiveness does not overlook the deed. It rises above it."
-- Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela

Perpetrators who receive the gift of forgiveness are given a chance to change
-- Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela

an act of forgiveness sets the victim apart from the perpetrator, who failed to act humanly towards the victim at the time he committed his crime.
-- Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela

For perpetrators, when they apologize and experience remorse, it gives them a chance to reclaim their own humanity. Some rise to the moral challenge. Others of course don't care, and they continue acting with contempt.
-- Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela

"Before we can forgive one another, we have to understand one another."
-- Emma Goldman

Our capacity to make peace with another person and with the world depends very much on our capacity to make peace with ourselves.
-- Thich Nhat Hanh

The practice of peace and reconciliation is one of the most vital and artistic of human actions.”
-- Thich Nhat Hanh

To reconcile conflicting parties, we must have the ability to understand the suffering of both sides.
-- Thich Nhat Hanh

"Forgiveness does not equal forgetting. It is about healing the memory of the harm, not erasing it."
-- Ken Hart

We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love. There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.
-- Martin Luther King, Jr

"Forgiveness is primarily for our own sake, so that we no longer carry the burden of resentment. But to forgive does not mean we will allow injustice again."
--Jack Kornfield

Five enemies of peace inhabit with us - avarice, ambition, envy, anger, and pride; if these were to be banished, we should infallibly enjoy perpetual peace.
-- Petrarch

If we really want to love, we must learn how to forgive.
-- Mother Teresa

"It takes courage and commitment to act in a more forgiving fashion. It is not at all a sign of weakness but a mark of strength."
-- Carl Thorensen

"Let us forgive each other - only then will we live in peace”
-- Leo Tolstoy

Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it.
-- Mark Twain

Love is an act of endless forgiveness.
-- Peter Ustinov



------------------
NumeroLexigrams
~I remember,
therefore I am immortal
~Lexxigramer
My Lexigramming Biography

IP: Logged

birdy
Knowflake

Posts: 506
From: Sunny
Registered: Dec 2011

posted April 07, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgiving is really hard but for forgiveness to even be a possibility the person has to really seem like they're genuine about it. It almost feels like most people say theyre sorry automatically like it's the right thing to do.

For me personally to even get to the point of being that upset with someone, they'd have to have really hurt me.

IP: Logged

Sashar
Knowflake

Posts: 333
From: Alternate timeline future
Registered: Mar 2012

posted April 07, 2012 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jesstar:
Forgiveness and Forgiving , I am pondering their importance and weight in matters of living in harmony and peace. Would anyone like to shed a little light from your experiences with forgiving and forgiveness?


When I was a kid, I was abused and told by my family that I had to forgive the person because it was the Christian thing to do. Which to them meant, acting like nothing happened and continue having them in my life.

As I grew older, this definition bothered me to the core and brought about a lot of personal ethics that probably wouldn't have come about without it.

Forgiveness is simply accepting that people are different and make mistakes.

Self forgiveness is probably the most important attribute a person can have. Sometimes people are just too hard on themselves, and they let it fester until it becomes a physical problem with their brain chemistry.

But forgiving someone does not mean you have to continue being around them. If for example your significant other cheats, you can break up with them and forgive them at the same time.

------------------
Astrology Activism: The constant strive to not just learn the intricate details of Astrology but the desire to constantly find new ways to prove that it exists in a scientific manner.
Failure to incorporate the later into your work is akin to learning how to cure cancer but not sharing it with anyone.

IP: Logged

Doux Rêve
Moderator

Posts: 2167
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted April 07, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it hard to *truly* forgive people.
Often my mind thinks I have forgiven someone but deep in my heart, I still hold a grudge.
I wish I could forgive more easily, because rensentment is so destructive and unhealthy.

I tend to repress my resentment and think that I no longer hold a grudge but then something happens and all the negative feelings just come up to the surface again..

How do you genuinely forgive and let go?

Any tips?


IP: Logged

RegardesPlatero
Moderator

Posts: 4367
From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011

posted April 07, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
=

IP: Logged

jesstar
Knowflake

Posts: 277
From: santa fe new mexico
Registered: Nov 2011

posted April 07, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jesstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am in tears . LEXX i love you. my heart goes out to all of u who replied thank you thank you.my neighbors just showed up im a mess lol continue this chat later

------------------
"We'll go because it's Thursday,"he said,"and we'll go to wish everybody a Very Happy Thursday.Come on,Piglet"
A. A. Milne

IP: Logged

jesstar
Knowflake

Posts: 277
From: santa fe new mexico
Registered: Nov 2011

posted April 08, 2012 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jesstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blessings and Easter wishes from Jesstar . From the lessons I learned yesterday I wanted to share here today ,that forgiveness came to me both sides at once. I both forgave and was forgiven. The whole matter may never be resolved yet the first step was taken.After I posted this thread yesterday I had an awakening. I had been pondering forgiveness being as my father and I havent spoke since december 29th my heart hasnt been right.I posted here for some input and fell back asleep. When i awoke and checked the mail yesterday there was a package from my dad.I was hesitant upon opening it.There was a thick card inside with my name drawn in bubble letters like my grandfather used to write on my cards when I was little.Tears came instantly. I didnt open the card ,thats when i came back here to see if anyone replied to my thread. lol more tears . Inside the card was a cd. I played the disk and yes more tears instantly. My father had made me a mix cd of old religious songs that we used to listen to when I was a kid. I remember ever word to every son he picked. The third song was called forgiven .(cause im forgiven,now ive got a reason for living.jesus keeps giving and giving everyday ,everyday ) I could hardly believe what was happening.Thats when my neighbors showed up and I was crying and playing christian music. My neighbor laughed and said yeah we thought we heard gospel music so we wanted to see what was going on over here lol all in all yesterday was a big day for me from the actions that occured round christmas time ive had alot of questions reguarding moralities and ive been curious to where i actually learned so much of the goodness thru the badness in my youth. My father opened my eyes yesterday with my ears. Its the music .the music has always pulled me thru . I remember every word to all those songs .I learned alot as a kid thru the spoken word thru lyrics...and I still do..So as bob marely says .Give thanks and praises

------------------
"We'll go because it's Thursday,"he said,"and we'll go to wish everybody a Very Happy Thursday.Come on,Piglet"
A. A. Milne

IP: Logged

Doux Rêve
Moderator

Posts: 2167
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted April 08, 2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesstar, that's wonderful, I'm glad for you.

IP: Logged

juniperb
Moderator

Posts: 5150
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 08, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jesstar, what a beautiful gift and epiphany

A Blessed Easter.

------------------
Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

IP: Logged

jesstar
Knowflake

Posts: 277
From: santa fe new mexico
Registered: Nov 2011

posted April 08, 2012 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jesstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks !

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2012

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a