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juniperb
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posted June 21, 2013 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, you could have a few things going on. Did you repot it or know the ratio of soil to root system? How long have they been in the current pots? If it`s root bound or too little soil, it will stress .

Your wife is right, potted plants dry very quickly in wind and heat. A large plant can dry in a matter of hours.

Assuming it is too dry, I would suggest absorbancy beads in the soil
http://www.supercrystals.net/

or get the cute plant watering globe ball that slowly releases water over time.
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I use the on my succulents. They require little but even watering.

That would be a quick fix for too dry too often.

I really don`t know a lot about either plant but lack of water is a big stressor in any plant.

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posted June 21, 2013 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ps awesome trellis. Are you buying one ?

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posted June 22, 2013 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`ve been reading up on the eucalyptus and found it to be an interesting tree/plant.


Monitor soil moisture closely during especially hot, windy days. Windy days pull moisture from the leaves of the eucalyptus quickly, even when humidity is high. The eucalyptus will pull more moisture from the soil, and the soil will dry out faster.
my concern ^^

yet another ehow states :

Allow the soil around the plant to dry out in between watering to further protect it from humidity problems. Water deeply, not frequently. If the eucalyptus receives an inch or more of water from rain, this is sufficient water, and you can allow the soil to dry out again before you water.

Then I read this from gardenguides which is the guide I personally (ie no experience w/plant) would follow.

Step 2

Water your eucalyptus plant when the top layer of soil is dry. Established trees can survive short periods of drought. Eucalyptus plants in containers need more frequent watering; enough so that the soil does not dry down further than an inch below the surface. Note that newly planted trees should be watered more frequently throughout the first growing season so that even the top layer of soil is continually moist.


Read more: How to Care for Eucalyptus Plants | Garden Guides http://www.gardenguides.com/92709-care-eucalyptus-plants.html#ixzz2WwhB2x4a

I also was interested to read phosphorus is toxic to the tree.


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posted June 22, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent info!

I very much suspected both trees of needing water. I used to water the eucalyptus daily, but then my wife suggested that maybe I was watering too much. I felt the soil again today, and again it was dry, so I watered it this morning as well. Hopefully, it's not lost. It's regularly in the 80's and 90's here, so it's hot just about every day. I think I should check the soil more often.

I do have another watering question that I would suspect you know a lot about: when do I start watering the sunflowers less?

With regard to the awesome trellis, I'm not buying one. She made her's, so I might do the same if I need one next year or something.

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posted June 22, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would depend on your current watering program. Do you water deep and every couple days or shallow daily.

Most gardners water shallow often and that creates a water dependent, shallow rooted plant. If that`s you,Try this with a specific few to test run. Water deep. At least an inch deep in the evening. Watch them next day for stress (if you fear for them rewater). Do this every other day for a week. They will pout and wilt but it will give you an idea how to cut back water. That evening when it cools down, they should spring back up. They may loose a few lower leaves but no worries.


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posted June 23, 2013 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first week end of summer 2013 brought some rocking and rolling Mars thunderstorms to entertain the area .... The night time warmth eludes us yet but the thunderstorms gave the needed push to stimulate growth and happyness in the plant life.

It was a wild ride and I enjoyed it from the newly remodeled deck ,along with the fur faces at 3 a.m.

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posted June 23, 2013 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I broke out our remaining bag of redwood mulch this morning. Now everything in the front yard is better mulched. I did throw some mulch in the two stressed tree pots as well. I also put some in a potted tomato plant that isn't doing well (I think it's because it only has 8 - 10 inches of soil to begin with). I think we should have filled that pot higher, and given the roots more room.

I've been watering the sunflowers every morning since they were seeds. When you say, "at least an inch deep," you're talking about an inch into the soil? I think my morning watering goes that deep, especially because I planted them all in potting soil.

We visited some nearby sunflowers last night while walking the dog in the school yard behind our house. They were amazing. The tallest were probably about eight feet tall. It's hard to imagine my little plants might grow that giant.

I just realized that I'm going to have to figure out a plan for when we take vacation. I've got some time, though.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been watering the sunflowers every morning since they were seeds. When you say, "at least an inch deep," you're talking about an inch into the soil?

Yes. That`s the way to do it. Just start cutting back a little each day Mother Nature will take over.

I do forget you have very hot days so you may have to water occasionally if they get too dry/stressed.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked about the trellis because I am making one out of willow and grape vine. A long process but I won`t need it until next spring.
I bought 4 pink & white stripped Clematis and I wanted an unusual trellis to show case them.

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posted June 23, 2013 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you guys know you can eat sunflowers, all of the flower.
You can saute the middle of the flower with olive oil and it is supposed to taste like artichoke hearts.

I am growing a lot of them, too. They are like 4 inches tall now

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posted June 24, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice, Juni. I don't know what next Spring will bring, or even what lessons I'll learn this season.

I came across a young bird tonight. It could only run away from me, so I told my wife about it. We suspect it's a mourning dove. Jen actually caught it, and we're going to house it overnight, and re-release it tomorrow. I can only hope that it gets some good rest. It's in the garage where there shouldn't be any action. There's food and water for it.

Jen thinks it's just about ready to fly, it's just giving up too easily. I just hope it survives ok.

We've seen at least two distinctly different hummingbirds at our feeder in the last couple days. I was out in the yard checking out the corn, and I think a little one used my presence to keep a bigger one from shooing him away.

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posted June 24, 2013 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought Winter Squash seeds today. I tried to find them last time, and only found something called Delicata, which is more for pies. These take 75 days to mature, so I hope they grow - if I can make space. That will give me something to use for soups or squash recipes over the winter. They do actually store well, don't they? I mean, somewhere cool?

I'm disappointed. In January, my garden was the one positive thing I could think about. I read a book called The Backyard something-or-other (god, my memory is so bad now). But she inspired me. I was hoping to get so much out of the garden this year. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I have tomatoes and peppers growing now, and my kale is giving it the old college try, even though it's a cool-weather plant. (I couldn't get them to grow in the cool weather.) I have heirloom kale, some of it, anyhow (the more attractive kind you find at the fancy health food stores). But I have no idea how to collect seeds from a leafy plant? Is it possible, or do you just have to buy more?

I'm also trying to grow herbs, and Cress. My flowers just aren't doing well, and I should have saved the money I spent on actual plants, for Emmy's supplements. What a waste.

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posted June 24, 2013 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun flower seeds runs about $2.09 a lb here at the save-a-lot store. Since I use about 20 lbs a week in winter, 10 summer, my birds get the seed . The pigs and cattle eat the ground up stalks and heads. If it is nutritious for them, why not us.

I`m excited about the trellis and the Clematis roots. They haven`t broke ground yet but we are heating up so not too much longer.

Ruby throats are the only hummer here and I have made friends with three pair that return every year. The younguns are a hoot with their little tiny feet dangling as they hoover to eat.

teasel, I`m growing kale too. More for looks/decoration than food. I wish I loved greens but I crave protien and carbs... I`m not a good veggie or fruit eater. My spaghetti squash is really off & running!

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posted June 24, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't love greens, either. I'm having to eat them. I shouldn't complain: they're probably helping me vanity-wise, just a bit, and they're definitely helping my stomach, but I want the stuff that's bad for me. I have to blend the greens in a drink, with fruit, but I'm going to have another go at kale salad, since the stuff is supposed to be so good for you - and give it to the dogs, too.

I hope my flowers grow. It would really be a nice surprise.

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posted June 24, 2013 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sympathise teasel, I `m not as tough as you and don`t keep trying. I have a few recipies that I can handle but greens are not my cup `o tea. Fortunately, the furfaces love greens so they are a healthy duo and my guinea pigs for new produce.!

My quandry. My Goatsbeard has outgrown it`s happy home and the surrounding Ladies Mantle and Japenese Anenome`s are reaching for the sky to get some sunlight. They are not happy with Mr Goatsbeard in their way.

The crown of the Goatsbeard is so thick and hard it is almost impossable to divide with success.

Sooo, I`m thinking of taking my electric chainsaw and attempting to divide it. Problem is I may lose the entire plant. He is 12 yrs old and a favorite but my Anemonies and Ladies are too. It sure would leave a four ft wind hole if I lost it

I feel like the rabbit geting lost in her own burrow.

A common name is Brides Feathers, very apt
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posted June 25, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think kale is alright as part of a smoothie. I think it's pretty easy to disguise. Whether I'm going to make enough smoothies to get over our hoard of frozen kale, I don't know. I tried to throw it out over the weekend in order to make space in the freezer. My wife doesn't like it, but she wants to keep it theorizing that she'll like it cooked. I do the cooking, though, and I'm not a fan of cooked greens (I'd much rather have raw spinach than cooked spinach), so the likelihood of it being cooked is almost nil.

Good luck trimming the goat's beard, Juni. I'm sure you can grow some more if it doesn't survive.

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When I make the juice with 3 cups of collard greens, I have to use a lot of pineapple and mangoes. I use enough that you cannot really taste the collards.

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posted June 25, 2013 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don`t like vegetable smoothies. I`ve had to choke a few down tho. You know the story "oh, try mine, you`ll love it". Yuck .

I prefer chewing my breackfast to drinking it.
I do like some basic veggies, peas, lettus`s, beans, potatos,corn, tomatos, onions, peppers and cabbage so I just hope I get enough nutrients from them. Except for the lettus, I make a fine soup out of those veggies and it is yummy.

If I had to ,I would eat spinach over kale tho.

No decision on the Goatsbeard yet.

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posted June 26, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My smoothies aren't vegetable smoothies either. Usually a banana helps with the sweetness, and then I usually use berries and mango. Pineapple would be good, too. I throw some flaxseed meal in to ensure I've got enough healthy oils. Sometimes I include yogurt.

This wouldn't ever be the only thing I had for breakfast if it were up to me. I'm an eggs guy. I've always loved eggs. The debate rages on about whether they're healthy enough to have multiple servings of per day, so I usually have one plus some egg substitute, which is mostly egg. I've been on a ham and cheese omelet kick lately.

I like the idea of big breakfasts, but since starting Weight Watchers a little over a week ago I've noticed that even having an omelet and a smoothie I still get the least amount of points out of the meal. Today I had cereal, an omelet, sweetened coffee and a banana. That totaled about a quarter of my allotted points.

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Back to gardening: Juni, if a sunflower's head is eaten off will it still grow? I have a stalk where it's got it's two birth leaves still, but the top of the stalk has been ripped off. Is that plant a gone'r?

I notice that something is finding the sunflower babies quite delicious. I don't think the damage is necessarily going to kill them, but there are a lot of holes in leaves.

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About holes in leaves--I am pleased as punch with myself. I have a loved collard crop and it was getting eaten terribly. I was thinking of resorting to pesticides but I didn't want to.

I made up a mixture that the bugs hate and my collards look like a babies behind

I juice garlic in the juicer so it will be smooth and come out the watering can. I do a lot of cloves like 20. Then, I add a natural soap and olive oil. I also had ghost pepper powder which is the hottest pepper known.

Every night, I put this on my collards and they look great. It is a pain but the price of an organic garden imo

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posted June 26, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love eggs too and eat them in some form or another about every day. It helps I have my own hens for laying!!

I need to consume (summer only) about 4000 calories a day to hold a good weight. Eggs in salads and such is good calories for me. My cholesterol is on target my health is just peachy.

I suggest you have a funeral for the stalk. Birth leaves (cotyledon`s) can`t sustain it.

Did you get the Garden Safe? That should stop your munching marauders .

I found some volunteer sunflowers from last summers crop. They are about 10 inchs tall with very wide healthy leaves. I dug them up with a big scoop of soil and will plant them tonight when sun goes behind the trees. I doubt their survival but worth a good try.

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posted June 26, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! My pumpkins and squash are blooming . The heat is on

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posted June 26, 2013 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG, keeping with the theme of June, are you watching BB this season? It started tonight.

A nifty twist! 3 noms for eviction, 2 made by HoH and one made by a house guest that america nominated as MVP of the week. After they are nominated, the MVP may keep self secret and even vote in secret. Imagine 2 on the block who may not go home and seek vengence.

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posted June 28, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What perfect timing/weather to have rescued my volunteer sunflowers.
It turned cloudy and cooler so they are in good shape. One hit the compost heap because the root ball tore loose taking it`s feeder roots with it. The other 6 had their bottom leaves removed and look really good!


Almost July... June went much much too fast.

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posted June 29, 2013 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll be back to post as soon as I can. (I didn't watch BB, but will catch up).

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