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Topic: The introduction of sticky threads
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Jessica2407
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posted August 31, 2013 02:36 PM
  
Randall,what do you think?
That could help TTLG to pick up traffic for one.
However I was thinking about the PR.A tutorial thread could be stickied at the top of the forum,it doesn't make sense having one if it's going to be lost among all the threads. Not making sense to have to bump it every time either. Just a suggestion. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 05:28 PM
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T
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posted August 31, 2013 09:44 PM
I agree, Jessica.But he wants to keep things the way they are since this place was started in 2001. It will never change. People have brought things like this up before. If he upgrades then he will loose all the smilies that have been posted in the posts since then and he said he doenst want to do that (lose the smiley emicons, in his words). And advice for the future, don't ever bring up long ago members that have left here or disappeared. Talk of that seems to really annoy the crap out of him. I, along with many others have made that mistake. Usually the thread will get locked after telling you not to "dwell on the past" and to "live in the now" and get over it and don't bring it up again. If they are gone, they don't matter anymore and are useless. as we saw again, recently here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004344.html He's not very open to suggestions on how to change or better the site. It's fine the way it is.  So, as nice as it was for you to make a helpful suggestion. I would not bother doing so anymore. Llve with it or leave it is the motto here. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 10:13 PM
Actually, I've taken suggestions and made a few adjustments, which is why we have the reading pane for posting (so you can see the posts you may be replying to), the quote function, and the subcategories of Forum listings. To upgrade means upgrading through each new level in succession (we are way behind), each with its own sets of bugs. Granted, we have a few bugs also, but mainly it runs smoothly except for when the server spikes, which I can rectify rapidly. It also means pruning, which is what I am most against. Unlike other boards, which prune regularly, I feel our past postings are the life blood of LL and what gives it its character. Dep was being negative and didn't have his facts right. That's why it was closed. Others have been closed long after getting negative that should have been closed earlier on, which is how I learned that lesson. People come and go here, and T neglected to show the threads here about past members that remained open and are still open. As long as they are positive, it's not a problem. We had one here kind of recently that I will try to find and bump. And as stated by T, upgrading turns all of the smilies into broken images. So, by staying at the current level, we may sacrifice avatars, a PM function, and stickies, but the advantages IMHO far outweigh the negatives. Avatars are no biggie, and PM is often disengaged after a time due to all of the gossip and divisiveness it causes. I do miss not having a sticky function, though, as it would be useful. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 10:19 PM
It's not you bringing up members of the past that was the problem, T. It was all of the talk about how bad of a place LL is now compared to then. We are better than ever now in every way, as we should be. Growth is part of life. The people in the past do matter; they matter very much. Which is why I don't want them deleted or pruned away. Often, many of them return (albeit sometimes in new identities). The past is what brought LL to what it is today. It is an integral part of who we are--including the prior arguments and conflicts. Talking about the past does not annoy me in any way as long as it isn't done to create contention. I miss many members here from the past...people like Starlover who went to college and then stopped posting (I wonder how she is doing in her new career and what she got her degree in) and LMB (whom I own a book of poetry from), and so many others. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 10:56 PM
I have even taken it to extremes with allowing past banned members to return--some of them more than once--and have offered amnesty the past two Christmases...and with the exception of Lotus the last time, it is usually much to my chagrin. IP: Logged |
T
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posted August 31, 2013 10:59 PM
T didnt neglect to show anything. T's experienced and observed you doing the same to other people, who in your mind were looking to cause trouble by bringing up past members. You took it as them trying to point out how crappy the place had become (at the time). You took someone bringing up long lost great members as that person looking to stir trouble, when they werent. You just took it that way.You got a bee in your bonnet about it and decided that they must be bringing up old members to remind us all of how downhill the site went. Because so many good ones had gone. Maybe because in your heart of hearts, you knew it was true yourself. Don't pretend to know why others bring up people they might miss, or try to say they are only doing it to cause drama. That doenst even make sense, except in your mind. It clearly made you po'ed when people brought up the great members that left and will never come back here and how this has turned into something less than what it used to be. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 12:55 AM
Negatory. I only viewed YOU as saying how crappy LL is, because it's directly what you said. You are entitled to your opinion, of course. But rest assured that you do not know what is in my mind or my heart. I truly believe LL has never been better. I do not believe it was better at any time in the past than it is now. Back in 2010 and prior when the clique was here, Newflakes barely posted, people felt intimidated by the group bullying, and growth was stunted. I assume this is what you view as our heyday? Downhill? We have gone uphill--in just about every respect--and I'm not talking about traffic either--although, I have poured all of my heart, soul, blood, sweat, and tears into this place, and so it is understandable that I do get a measure of joy in knowing that we are reaching more people now than ever before, which has always been my hope--not to have lots of traffic or be top on a list, but to keep Linda's memory alive and share her vision with the world. People sometimes ask me why Forums are named what they are and why the descriptions are written the way they are, and it's just my way of giving Linda credit. For those who have read her books, no explanation is necessary. For others, it is my hope that perhaps some of them will read Star Signs or Gooberz someday. But I accept that many come here just to talk Astrology or to connect with others of like mind, and I like to think Linda would be happy about that also. Right or wrong and admitting that mistakes have been made along the way, LL is my best reflection of what I think mirrors Linda's ideals (IDEA plus an "L" for Love). IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 01:08 AM
Jessica, sometimes hacks are available to improve or add features to UBB. This version may have a hack for stickies, and if so, it should be a relatively simple code. I will see what I can find on the UBB Forums. The standard LL smilies (except for a few that came pre-installed) are actually a hack.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/smilies.html IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 01, 2013 01:16 AM
Randall, thank you for responding.I do NOT want to get dragged into ''past hurts'' of LL. That was NOT the objective of this thread.
Sticky boards are really an essential part of any forum.LL is huge, although the boards are segregated I think it's an essential feature to have in every board but I also understand your concerns Randall.However, please take it into consideration.
Also I was thinking of suggesting a board only for the mods,to discuss issues or anything pertaining to moderating that are preferred not to be discussed on the boards. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 01:35 AM
We had a private Password-protected Forum for that once, and it created divisiveness. Many Boards have a Mod Forum. I go to a real estate one, and it isn't an issue. They rule with an iron hand and ban at the drop of a hat. The Forum even says "This is where we talk about the rest of you!" But that wouldn't (and didn't) work here. We do have a FB group for Mods. With all of the new Mods here now, if y'all have a FB, you should be added. But there is little activity there. It only kicks up when there is a problem, which isn't often. IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 01, 2013 01:36 AM
Boy do you have a very odd view of things.There was never a clique before. There were many more serious talented astrologers before, who moved on for many reasons. You take the smallest comment from someone you think is downing the sight and blow it up into something it is not. I'm sorry that one advanced astrologer who has been studying for over 30 years will never make up for ten newbie teenager ones that have just dipped their toe into the art and want to talk about what color each sign would dye their hair. The forum is fine the way it is. If you think that quantity equals quality, that is fine. You are entitled to your opinion. I don't mind it here, but anyone who's been around awhile, can admit that it's very different. Do i wish for old days? NO. I don't care. My main point in posting was to defend myself from the things youve said here, and how you tried to twist things. I think this site fits you and your personality and vision for the site very well at this point actually. Best of luck with it all. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 01, 2013 01:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
We had a private Password-protected Forum for that once, and it created divisiveness. Many Boards have a Mod Forum. I go to a real estate one, and it isn't an issue. They rule with an iron hand and ban at the drop of a hat. The Forum even says "This is where we talk about the rest of you!" But that wouldn't (and didn't) work here. We do have a FB group for Mods. With all of the new Mods here now, if y'all have a FB, you should be added. But there is little activity there. It only kicks up when there is a problem, which isn't often.
Okay, may be an open forum then. I feel issues that are you know related to moderating should be discussed separately.
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Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 01:45 AM
Jessica, do you have any recomendations for two other potential Mods to help you out in TTLG? Should I decide to add more to that Forum, that is. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 01, 2013 01:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Jessica, do you have any recomendations for two other potential Mods to help you out in TTLG? Should I decide to add more to that Forum, that is.
Anyone who is mature enough to deal with moderating. I think a moderator should be able to exercise self control and also not try to abuse of their powers. I'd very much like to nominate Ceri and norainnorainbows but I don't know if they will agree. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 01:56 AM
Are you in the Lindaland FB group? Or Asteroid group? They are closed groups, so they won't show up in your feed. Some people like to keep their Astrology associations private and off their FB wall. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 01, 2013 02:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Are you in the Lindaland FB group? Or Asteroid group? They are closed groups, so they won't show up in your feed. Some people like to keep their Astrology associations private and off their FB wall.
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teasel
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posted September 01, 2013 03:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Anyone who is mature enough to deal with moderating. I think a moderator should be able to exercise self control and also not try to abuse of their powers. I'd very much like to nominate Ceri and norainnorainbows but I don't know if they will agree.
I used to be mature enough to be a moderator, and was flattered to be asked once or twice (and not just here). I still could be under better circumstances, but I've never wanted the job. I vaguely remember what happened when there was a mods-only forum. I don't remember what it was about, though. I just remember people leaving, and one person, at least, being banned. Sticky threads usually are a thing on bigger message boards. On one site, they would keep one or two popular threads pinned to the top of a forum. Every so often, it was a moderator warning. Infractions were handed out for going off-topic, that was what mine were for - or for questioning a moderator's decision in public, but even then they were usually lenient with me, because I was well-behaved and well-liked (still am, actually). They seem to express favouritism, though - people who weren't bad at all, were punished or banned, because one mod didn't like them - so I don't visit often anymore. Regulars established their own place where they could chat, and people are moderating themselves just fine - even the few who were banned. They have sticky threads, too - one being the reason they all joined in the first place. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 01, 2013 03:37 AM
Ceri used to be a Mod. I don't think she liked it. Rain can have it if she wants. Anyone else good with Tarot? quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Anyone who is mature enough to deal with moderating. I think a moderator should be able to exercise self control and also not try to abuse of their powers. I'd very much like to nominate Ceri and norainnorainbows but I don't know if they will agree.
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Jessica2407
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posted September 01, 2013 03:51 AM
@ teaselOkay. I think a sticky board is a thing on all forums. A sticky board is meant to stick threads that can be viewed and accessed without having to dig into hundred of pages. A board meant for the mods are meant for the mods, it can be open or a closed forum. If issues cropped up in the past it doesn't mean that the idea is wrong. Actually I've noticed that there are members here and could well be mods who would ignite a fight at a drop of a hat and then hide behind a facade of sweetness. Moderating a forum is not about being liked or not. I'd expect members from the teen spirit boards to go at each other throats because that's what teens do these days. IDK, may be they do that over there, I seldom go to the teens board.That was my point on being mature enough. IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 01, 2013 03:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
@ teaselActually I've noticed that there are members here and could well be mods who would ignite a fight at a drop of a hat and then hide behind a facade of sweetness.
Stick around for about ten years and then see how you see things Jessica. It's a whole different ballgame. & i hope that wasnt a dig at what teasel said right there or anyone else for that matter. There is an old family here. The few of us are left anyway. Please don't disrespect that. We know that Modship is not about being liked or not. Most of us don't even pay attention to who Mods these forums. A new Mod doesnt matter much to us. They come and go. A dime a dozen. Some of us have 'been there, done that' and know what it's all about. So, have fun with it. No one really cares. IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 01, 2013 04:08 AM
btw i remembered you from some recipes you shared
which i still have not tried yet
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum31/HTML/000233.html IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted September 01, 2013 04:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by T:
Stick around for about ten years and then see how you see things Jessica. It's a whole different ballgame. & i hope that wasnt a dig at what teasel said right there or anyone else for that matter.There is an old family here. The few of us are left anyway. Please don't disrespect that. A new Mod doesnt matter much to us. They come and go. A dime a dozen.
Oh my. Did I sound disrespectful to you? I would like to have this thread cleared from all negativity. If you want to respond to anything pertaining to the TOPIC of this thread, I'd be glad to respond, otherwise PLEASE,find somewhere else to rant about your LL frustrations and past hurts. IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 01, 2013 04:14 AM
Yeah, you did sound disrespectful. But if you are done, then so am i.I don't have any 'past hurts' from here. Sorry if you thought so. Unfortunately that is not the case. IP: Logged |
T
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posted September 01, 2013 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
If you want to respond to anything pertaining to the TOPIC of this thread, I'd be glad to respond, otherwise PLEASE,find somewhere else to rant about your LL frustrations and past hurts.
It seems youve turned it into an ass-kissing session. And that is off topic. The 'stickies' arent happening. So, i think we both are done here. IP: Logged |
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