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Topic: If you were dying would you stay at LL and or online?
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 3518 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 22, 2013 04:35 PM
We had one member so far who stayed on until she died. I'm sure some long time members remember Rainbow Would you stay here or online if you were dying?
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HRH-FishAreFish Knowflake Posts: 425 From: St. Paul, Land of 10,000 Seas Registered: May 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 05:22 PM
Oh, I miss Rainbow. She was one of our big handful of Michigan (or Mitten) Knowflakes. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50358 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 24, 2013 01:22 PM
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 7765 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2013 04:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lexxigramer: We had one member so far who stayed on until she died. I'm sure some long time members remember Rainbow Would you stay here or online if you were dying?
Rainbow was one of the first lovely souls I met on LL. We were friends online and in our offline lives. Luckly we lived within 100 miles of each other for visits & long talks.. She was my very favorite "drama queen"! I know I would not share dying online. For me it would be too personal and private of an experience. Also, I don`t think I would be online if I were dying. I would want to relish every experience I could and that would mean being with family , close friends, the fur faces and living to the fullest. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi
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charmainec Moderator Posts: 7648 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 12:18 AM
quote: Also, I don`t think I would be online if I were dying. I would want to relish every experience I could and that would mean being with family , close friends, the fur faces and living to the fullest.
What Juni said. ------------------ "DON'T EVER try and destroy someone's life with a LIE.....when yours can be destroyed with the TRUTH...." SY Jacobs IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 3518 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 04:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Rainbow was one of the first lovely souls I met on LL. We were friends online and in our offline lives. Luckly we lived within 100 miles of each other for visits & long talks.. She was my very favorite "drama queen"!
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: I know I would not share dying online. For me it would be too personal and private of an experience.
I agree. quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Also, I don`t think I would be online if I were dying.
What if online was basically nearly the only social interaction one had between bed and bathroom? quote: Originally posted by juniperb: I would want to relish every experience I could and that would mean being with family , close friends, the fur faces and living to the fullest.
And what if one did not have any of that to relish; except for their cat? And did not have the energy to relish any of that even if they had it? Except for the cat. Hmmmmmmm, I think I just answered my question about staying online because this all just sounds pitiful. None or not much of an offline life does not mean one should stay online and depress or bother folks. Best when the time comes or gets closer, to just quietly slip away.thank you all for the replies. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7131 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 04:22 AM
((( Lexx ))) I have no social life, so. I could see myself staying online if I were dying (but that thought is actually quite disturbing when I'm not feeling suicidal). Sigh, I don't know. It's hard to imagine.
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 3518 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 04:38 AM
Doux Rêve I wish there were some way to help you. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7131 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 06:24 AM
Thank you, love.I wish there was a way to help you, too. You're such a gentle soul.
My heart goes out to you.
(((( Lexx )))
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50358 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 11:10 AM
Lexx. Many people on LL love you here and that is not diminished because it is online. People who know about love will know that ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Moderator Posts: 6282 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 25, 2013 12:11 PM
If I were dying I probably wouldn't say it.In fact, I know I wouldn't say it, because I wouldn't even know it, because I never go to the doctor. But if I fainted, say, and awoke in the hospital with some doctor staring over me soberly telling me my end is near, I would most likely say "F you, I'll prove you wrong." Then I'd be here talking about how I am taking such and such herbs to prove the doctors wrong. I will NEVER give in. But I will tell my best friend to join LL and announce my death after the fact, if it comes to that. And then...see y'all on the Other Side. We'll understand each other better there, anyway. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 7765 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 01:07 PM
quote: But I will tell my best friend to join LL and announce my death after the fact, if it comes to that.
Yes! Shura and I have actually discussed this subject and shura would let LL know .------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5850 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 01:37 PM
I'm not dying, as far as I know, and I depress people now. If I knew someone was dying, and they had no social interaction outside of the internet - as I don't, most days - then I wouldn't want them to stop talking, if they thought they were being a burden. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7131 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 01:43 PM
This is making me really sad. (thinking about death)I don't want any of you beautiful souls dying any time soon, mkay? You'd better stay alive and stay here with us. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2166 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: If I were dying I probably wouldn't say it.In fact, I know I wouldn't say it, because I wouldn't even know it, because I never go to the doctor. But if I fainted, say, and awoke in the hospital with some doctor staring over me soberly telling me my end is near, I would most likely say "F you, I'll prove you wrong." Then I'd be here talking about how I am taking such and such herbs to prove the doctors wrong. I will NEVER give in. But I will tell my best friend to join LL and announce my death after the fact, if it comes to that. And then...see y'all on the Other Side. We'll understand each other better there, anyway. *angel*
Sending you my Most-Gentle Loving Hug, Faith.... A piece here to Honor your Speical Elvis.... (music) The Pledge - Poem written by Elvis Presley [2:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYXAxsknbuU A Heart-felt Special Love to everyone here.... We stay alive as we embrace in the words we find, and as we breath in the mystical invisible world of ethers of Linda's Loving, too..... She would deeply want that, I think. She would be encouraging us with that now, I feel. She was a person who knew the DEEPEST pains; she understood the DEEP intimacies of Soul, and the longing for Connection.... Through her writings I "felt" her pain... She was someone who KNEW the depths of what 'sadness' meant. She was familiar with Disappointment in Life, and wit the things that break open the Soul and the Heart....
This is what drew me in Linda Goodman's writings.... Three years later, I found THIS, the LL website Randall started, that honors her essential Being, her memory and her energy in which we swim through the magic of electronic media and our spirit connections to collective levels of consciousness..... My of Love and extended hands and arms of Friendship to All of you here.... LL-Faith, your idea is close to what I thought for myself.... But the thing is, I HAVE "no other live person" in my life right who "could" carry out my desire and wish to do that........ So that makes me a type of 'ultimate' most invisible-visible dying person in the ethers here~~ It's a ~weird way.... I do not know what my Future holds. Even though I've held on the emergency ledges of life for a scorpionic year now, it could 'close' at the end of THIS month of November, or in the upcoming weeks after Monday Dec 2nd (when leases must be signed, and where *I* then would be labeled as the intruding person-- (been here 'AT the LEAST' seven years that I remember... because I indirectly got notified days after my dad had died May 2008). I DON'T KNOW if the first week of December could (MIGHT) be the final reckoning DAYs where I must deal with the ultimate 'legal' paperwork that will ask me to 'remove' myself from here... (I have 'special' circumstances right now where I'm so overwhelmed with being Alone in all this, where I'm paralyzed with 'what I can do'.... I've been denied help through social govt entities "just because they have to draw the line SOMEWHERE and I happen to be *it*"... I DON'T have ANY place "safe" that I KNOW I can go to go for 'sanctuary'..... Public shelters are NOT in the option.... You need 'money' to live there (ironically, eh?) My present income DISQUALIFIES me~~ from benefits of being independent, and from benefits of 'fitting' govt programs that are 'tightly tailored' to be inclusive to ONLY "certain" demographic people. Your mirage here does NOT 'fit' ANYTHING available through the "usual" help that is published to be available. Saturn and Pluto's ruthless brutal scorpionic reality. The Is of Is-ness... *half-smile* oh well I'M HOPING WITH ALL MY MIGHT that this might ONLY turn out to be just the LONELIEST of my WORSE FEARs (today, reflecting energy from my personal natal astrology transits--- yet, important to FACE and process this energy).... I REALLY don't know, but I must be 'prepared' that I'll HAVE NO ACCESS to an internet Future. I am terrified~~ standing on the brink of either dream come true or dream ending. I have no "person" here, no live living breathing individual has "REAL" flesh-blood contact with me here. You are sorta the 'luckier' people in life.... You may be feeling stuck, or like you're with a family you 'didn't bargain' on having...... But you've got "People"-- I'm the ghost-visitor here-- the reflective "mirage" who appears for fleeting encounters here at LL. May seem strange, but somehow I'll always remember and care about what happens to all of you.... wooooo-boye..... watta day IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2166 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: This is making me really sad. (thinking about death)I don't want any of you beautiful souls dying any time soon, mkay? You'd better stay alive and stay here with us.
So Much Love to you Doux Reve! I'm echoing what you say! (music) Gloria Gaynor I Will Survive! (Mandela Day 2009) [6:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPPqEHj997w IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50358 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I'm not dying, as far as I know, and I depress people now. If I knew someone was dying, and they had no social interaction outside of the internet - as I don't, most days - then I wouldn't want them to stop talking, if they thought they were being a burden.
You don't depress me, Teasel
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2166 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I'm not dying, as far as I know, and I depress people now. If I knew someone was dying, and they had no social interaction outside of the internet - as I don't, most days - then I wouldn't want them to stop talking, if they thought they were being a burden.
Teasel?!! You ARE one of "The Best" people I know here at LL!..... Such a GOOD KIND hearted, BIG generous WONDERFUL soul! (giNORMOUSly BIG CRUSHING HUG!!! to you) uh, hope that didn't hurt? I just mean it with all my energy! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2166 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted November 25, 2013 03:12 PM
(in my own lifestory....) ..... (music.christian) I Almost Let Go (Kurt Carr)[5:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fx3l2DMDh4 ... ... IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10180 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 05:43 PM
*random thoughts / personal answers on the question (one which i've thought about many times)I'd pull away from interactions from people on and offline (especially this place) and try enjoy the time i had left in best way i could. Like juni, i would not share that i was dying with anyone online as it is a very personal experience and also it might bring a lot of attention that while well-meaning, i know would also make me feel uncomfortable and bad. I am the type that prefers to deal with the heaviest stuff on my own and not upset people or bring them down or want sympathy or people feeling bad for me. Virgo moon (8th house) would say: "It's fine everyone - i'm fine. I'm simply dying. It happens to the best of us. So, calm down for god's sake. Jesus Christ." lol I really don't think i would like anyone around me at that time either because most people don't know how to handle death or a dying person and are unable to put the dying person before themselves and their own emotions. If i had people sobbing uncontrollably around me it would upset me and slighty annoy me, because i want to go peacefully, calmly and highly focused on the experience - the birth into a new state. I'm looking forward to it, tbh....to moving on and leaving this plane. So, i think i would be how they say cats often are (and other animals) when they know it's their time - they pull away and find a secret hiding spot and cross over in peace. more i wanted to say and also a great new show on this topic, but i'm being interrupted atm... back in a few. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10180 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 07:59 PM
Time of Death a compelling new tv docu series on Showtime http://www.sho.com/sho/time-of-death/home you can watch the full episodes that have aired so far for free here. http://watchfullepisode.com/?s=time+of+death+season+1&x=0&y=0 IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10180 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 08:20 PM
quote: And what if one did not have any of that to relish; except for their cat? And did not have the energy to relish any of that even if they had it? Except for the cat. Hmmmmmmm, I think I just answered my question about staying online because this all just sounds pitiful. None or not much of an offline life does not mean one should stay online and depress or bother folks. Best when the time comes or gets closer, to just quietly slip away.
If talking about it helps you feel better than you should continue to do so. But ask yourself and answer yourself honestly if it is helping or not. Do people's well wishes upset you even more? Maybe because you think no one understands or ever could? You have to take care of you at this point and let come what may...find ways to discover peace and quiet within. You don't want to die angry or enraged or have a stroke because of something someone on the internet said to you, do you? Do you have to come to terms with some things on your own, without the help or interference of people on the internet? Sometimes they can hinder your growth or healing. These are things i would ask myself so i hope they don't offend you. I think meditation music, binural beats, chants etc before you sleep might be beneficial on many levels. You have an active mind, but all minds benefit from some quiet rest. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10180 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 25, 2013 08:28 PM
Rainbow was - IS! - i mean is, a lovely soul. She's still her, somewhere else now.Teasel & juni, got your emails. Thank you. I'll reply when i can. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 3518 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 26, 2013 03:04 AM
I would not even talk about it if it were so. That would not be a reason to stay online at all in my opinion. In fact if I were dying and folks knew it; that would make me go offline immediately. If I were dying I would maybe stay online to have something other than bed and pain and so forth. I would stay to feel normal to be around others, to feel a part of things a little bit. I would stay if I could still share and help, and yes, have fun. However; I would leave online society immediately if anyone knew it, if I were dying. No desire for pity or worse, false pity. No desire for fake nice if I were dying. No desire for fake nice because people are only being nice so I do not stroke out. Or even some secretly gloating. I have no desire to be public about such a personal thing as dying.Thank you all for the replies. I was curious as to how anyone would deal with such a situation if it were happening to them personally; not about it happening to me. I have seen some folks on facebook being public about their terminal illnesses and just wondered what their reasons were for still being online. Did not want to come out and ask them; so asked here at LL where no one is dying that I know of. My original query was: quote: Would you stay here or online if you were dying?
The keyword in my original query is: YOU not me. Thanks again folks.
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Faith Moderator Posts: 6282 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 26, 2013 08:11 AM
MirageThank you for the link! Wish I could help you ...sending luck and hopes for a big change of fortune your way. Please keep us posted on your situation. PS Listening to Kurt Carr now IP: Logged |