posted June 19, 2018 09:43 PM            

Here’s my take on the situation. But really the above question is my basic inquiries. Anyways
For me it’s very short. My synpathy and compassion levels these days are to a hair. I literally have no moral obligation to preserve a title of oneness for something I feel weighs me down and stagnates me and makes my life a burden or a dread. I find resolutions. I fix it. I don’t live in the past and care to repay deeds because I feel I owe it to them. If they helped me once it was out of the kindness of their hearts and not becaus ethe me they brought into this world was to repay the kindness in the future when they are old and dying. I owe no one ANYTHING!
And my family seems to have the idea that family is forever and that we help each other out. My moms brother was a thief who stole her dads inheritance. After knowing how ****** people can be or become, I have learned that you should never sacrifice yourself this much for your family because they can’t repay you and because they could change tomorrow. Into someone who deceives or cons you and takes advantage of you. My mother and her brothers family were very close. It wasn’t until I was 12 years old did she find out he was stealing from her all her childhood and conning her. And now at my middle 20s and what he has done, even more drastic. We are in a dog eats dog world. You can’t trust or depend on anyone entirely because people change and to assume that family is this preservative solid structure that never falters just ****** me off.

posted June 20, 2018 01:33 AM            

I'm fairly loyal, but I find it easier to be fonder of them (and I'm sure they of me) by living a long distance away, approaching 2,000 miles (about 3,000 km).

There is family drama, but they do circle the wagons when one of us, even one of us that most don't like, come under any sort of attack by those outside the family (though they may come down on me or other relatives for the same reason, but that's THEIR prerogative, no one else is allowed to). As a result it's complicated to talk about. There are some members I don't trust at all, but I'll rally around them as they will me if need be (though if I think they're partially or wholly at fault then I'll say so).

I doubt I'd donate an organ for any of them (though I'd consider it for a couple), though I wouldn't expect them to do the same for me as well. I'd not willingly put myself at their mercy, either.

Though it makes perfect sense to me, I know many are puzzled why I'd tell off my uncle out in the pasture, but go along with what he says and say "yes, sir" when under his roof (but ONLY while I'm under his roof). As best I can explain it, his house is his lair, and so he gets respect when he lets you in, though I expect the same in my place, and when not in his "lair" then I can act more freely and be a lot more honest in my sentiment. He and I have an interesting history that is filled with conflict, but there's still a code of conduct between us that could be considered family loyalty, but I would not call it unquestioning obedience or mindless trust (either way)
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posted June 28, 2018 04:22 PM            

You are not alone, as far as how you 'feel' about dropping your family, dropping everything. … You are p$ssed at life, and at everyone, and, it's "okay" that you are.

You said you ARE a sensitive person. I chose to Believe you. Take you on your word.

Gosh, I wish there was 'something' that could catch your interest in a really focused way... Something you could just fall-in-love-with. And a way you could get out of your house and situation.

I remember the picture you posted of yourself. You are TRULY a very very pretty girl. I don't have a copy of your western astrology chart.

Just know I care about you.
I'm soo sorry you're feeling exasperated right now. LOL... grrrrrrrr?????

Mars is retrograde now in Aquarius... from 9+ down to ~25?Capricorn. Will be retro till the fall.

This is a kind of frustration producing transit. (Read latest post I left in Hypatia's Mood and Transits thread... there's a list of possible symptoms of Mars Retro Aquarius. See if any of those make sense to you.)

Anyways gurllllll! ….
I just wanted to 'relate' to you here.
I have a weird sense that you are not just feeling ~wild right now, but that you underneath whatever gnarl is going on with you, are actually sad?

posted August 17, 2018 12:40 PM            

My mom, dad, and brother are different though. They're my family in every sense of the word, and I am loyal to them. If they're sick, I'll take care of them and advocate for them. If they need help, I'll help them. Family is a source of strength, responsibility and privilege for me. (That old saying, I don't have to do this, I get to do this, rings true for me.)

posted September 01, 2018 11:28 PM            

Some people are lucky to be born in Less complicated families.

Mine sucks. Has made me believe family can be like a slow debilitating POISON. Like unknowingly inhaling carbon monoxide.

It might kill you if you don't quickly figure out what is happening.

posted September 12, 2018 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by lola:
Mine sucks. Has made me believe family can be like a slow debilitating POISON. Like unknowingly inhaling carbon monoxide.

It might kill you if you don't quickly figure out what is happening.

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Every family and every situation is different. However, if you find yourself in a toxic situation, it's your prerogative to leave. Now what if we encounter toxic situations wherever we go? I believe that's a different problem and should be addressed as such..

posted December 10, 2019 03:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
How far would you go to show your dedication to family?

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