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Topic: Could use some help
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 05:26 AM
Edit. Thank you for the help. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 3645 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 19, 2021 06:07 AM
Have you tried a cutting the cord visualisation? I found this quite effective in the past, although I had to do it a few times with one particular person with whom my guilt kept me emotionally attached to. Have you discussed this with your primary partner? You may find it grounding to go there with her, as it sounds like your feet may be lifting off the ground a bit. Sorry, I don't pray as such, but didn't want to leave without trying to help. Visualisation was really effective for me when other things failed, along with time. ------------------ Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face ~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~ IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 12:49 PM
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Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 19, 2021 01:39 PM
Gave it a go... many hands make light work, as they say. IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 2319 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 19, 2021 01:39 PM
A11 I know is this...Everything, and I do mean everything happens for a reason, and that reason is... To Learn and Grow... ..Galactic, it must be very hurtful for your partner...a connection to another... But..you must also figure out why this connection exists..for it abSOlUteLy is happening for the reason of Learning and Growing and part of your Mastership! Bloom! ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 02:07 PM
Thank you Chanterelle.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 02:27 PM
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ballerina Moderator Posts: 2319 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 19, 2021 02:57 PM
My suggestion...Call those missing soul pieces to your body temple..you and your partner..we cannot master Ourselves until we acquire all 7 soul pieces back to one body temple... The sevenfold spirit must be attained... ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 19, 2021 03:17 PM
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 03:52 PM
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 04:01 PM
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Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 19, 2021 05:18 PM
I actually went ahead and pulled a card for you... I haven’t used them much, but the first time I did, I was asking about whether my ‘parenting partner’ and I should try to live together again. But really the question I was asking was more like what you were saying in the first post — how can I be at peace with this person in my life without walling myself off entirely? So I did what you asked (out loud— turns out I ramble in prayer as well...) and asked if there was anything you should know, and I pulled the same card as I had for myself all those months ago: Alder. “Your own deep instincts know when someone or something is threatening your boundaries, or when your personal territory is invaded. If you do not command it to leave, if you do not defend your space, then you dishonor yourself by giving away your power.” (It also mentions that the alder’s rusty, blood-colored sap is associated with generosity, and is considered sacred to both Kronos and Poseidon.) Not long after my own reading with this card, I had an honest conversation with this person saying essentially what you ended with: I’m sorry I can’t be there for you, I know you need help but you have to find it somewhere else because I am simply not strong enough to continue. (Maybe you can’t have a conversation like that, especially if you think she’s not doing anything consciously to perpetuate it... I dunno.)IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 19, 2021 05:48 PM
Have to leave for work soon, but just wanted to let you know I read the last reply and again thank you. May add more later. IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 20, 2021 04:42 AM
I realize it’s a completely different context, therefore maybe not so helpful, but I came across an old comment of Kannon’s that really resonated with me: “Empathy absorbs, takes on other people’s stuff. Compassion accepts them as they work through it.” I’ve never deliberately attempted any kind of energy healing, but that was definitely a breakthrough for me... realizing the degree to which my exhaustion, stress, and physical dis-ease were the result of me unwittingly allowing myself to be used almost beyond my capacity as a vehicle for someone else’s emotional healing. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this... it’s hard loving someone who doesn’t really love themselves. Unfortunately, as humans I guess a certain amount of reciprocity is required. What a conundrum, eh?
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 20, 2021 03:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chanterelle: I actually went ahead and pulled a card for you...
Very interesting on the various synchronicities involved between our respective cases, despite the obvious, surface differences. And that you pulled the same card.
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 20, 2021 04:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chanterelle: I realize it’s a completely different context, therefore maybe not so helpful, but I came across an old comment of Kannon’s that really resonated with me: “Empathy absorbs, takes on other people’s stuff. Compassion accepts them as they work through it.”...
I both agree and somewhat disagree with the above quote. I find it's relative and somewhat dependent on the situation. For example, retrievals. Retrieval is a very, very important service work that a percentage of middle aged to older Souls perform, unconsciously in their sleep state, while incarnated in this world. Most retrievals are of "ghosts" i.e. individuals whose bodies have died, but they have not moved on to where they really and truly belong (i.e. most resonate on a deeper Soul level). There are other kinds and levels of retrieval--including in the hellish realms where psychopathic Souls get attracted to when their bodies die, and truthfully, retrieval is happening all the time in all the levels (including physical) that are not completely and fully resonant with Source and pure Love. Because ultimately, that is what we are all trying to re-awaken/remember. And ever, the faster vibrational individuals are trying to help lift up the slower vibrational individuals. If we only had compassion for these poor stuck Souls, then we might say, "well I'm rooting for you, hope you can get yourself unstuck. I'll look past your bad behaviors etc because I know you're wounded." A kind of detached tolerance and acceptance of the way things are. But what is the reality? A helper Soul will temporarily lower their vibration somewhat in order to be better perceived by the stuck Soul (this is why people incarnated in physical bodies are so crucial to this process for retrievsals done for "ghosts" and/or in the hellish levels, as a connection to a body already does this), and then they begin a process of trying to raise up the others vibration and shift their perception to a more true and accurate one, helping them to ultimately help release themselves. Without the catalyst of these outside forces/helpers, such individuals may stay stuck and suffering for a VERY LONG time. Both empathy and compassion are involved in this very important and necessary service work. One for all, and all for One is the motto of the expanded, fast vibratory levels of guidance and service. That sounds very intense what you went through. I'm sorry to hear that as well. IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 20, 2021 06:07 PM
Interesting take on the empathy vs. compassion topic; I’ll bump the thread where he said that, for context. I won’t say that empathy is a bad thing, but there is most definitely such a thing as too much. For example, I had a conversation earlier that started with me saying, “You seem pretty stressed or unhappy or something... want to talk about it? Because I didn’t mean to make you feel like you can’t ever talk to me about anything...” and ended with him saying, “thanks, I want to die now.” So yeah, I’m kind of interested in learning how to not empathize. Do I get to blame Mercury for this day somehow?IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 21, 2021 07:31 AM
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 21, 2021 02:49 PM
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Interesting take on the empathy vs. compassion topic;... ...So yeah, I’m kind of interested in learning how to not empathize. Do I get to blame Mercury for this day somehow?
Yeah, that is more than understandable. That's why I said it's relative and dependent on the case. In cases like yours and mine, where the faster vibratory, more centered, balanced, or what not, person is so affected by the connection to their own detriment, then yeah, one has to detach some and balance empathy with logic and practicality. It's kind of like, you see a person drowning and your first instinct is one prompted by empathy, "somebody (me), needs to help them!" but then you notice they are in rapids and you know that if you jump in after them, not only will you not be able to help them, but you will die too. You have to damp down empathy in such a case and put logic and practicality ahead of it. Or in the case of retrievals in the hellish, super slow vibratory levels. Not every helper/retriever can do this kind of retrieval work safely or effectively, so even if you have the empathy and desire to help such individuals in these levels, doesn't necessarily mean that you should. It takes a high degree of attunement to Source, pure, Universal Love, a lot of inner strength and balance to do this kind of retrieval work safely and effectively. It takes very practiced/seasoned retrievers/helpers. There is too much risk otherwise. (These levels are truly horrendous; the stuff of nightmares.) Haha, if you mean something ala Mercury retrograde--nope. But, you could theoretically blame having Mercury as the ruler of your DESC, in Scorpio conjunct Pluto. That shows a lot of painful but intense transformations via close/more affecting relationships. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 21, 2021 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chanterelle: So... after the day I had yesterday, I was tempted to wonder if I’d really drawn that card for myself again. 2 more to clarify: Aspen and Gorse.
These seem pretty apropos as well. Funny enough, it has occurred to me to try a similar fire burning letter type ceremony. I'm a little hesitant to do that, because there is an interesting account from The Monroe Institute annuals of history/lore. I don't remember who it came from anymore, but anyways, during a particular Gateway Voyage Program where a fair amount of men were attending, there was this super, holistically attractive woman that was attending/part of the group. One of the instructions/practices for the basic meditations and "sound experiences" is Monroe tells you on recording, to put your worries and distractions temporarily in a chest that washes up on the shore. Well, many of the men were quite distracted by this Lass, and so many of them were putting her in their chests (of course, not thinking it would affect her at all). Turns out, she reports to one of the trainers that she was feeling/perceiving some odd and not pleasant stuff. When she would try to meditate and enter other states of consciousness she felt she was locked in this dark place. She was kind of feeling it generally as well, if I remember correctly. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 21, 2021 03:23 PM
Anyways, so far, things seem to be working and helping. I did ask B. to also partake in this as well last night. I'm feeling more detached towards her. IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 553 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 21, 2021 06:57 PM
👍👍 Good point about being careful and specific about that sort of thing. Hadn’t thought about the distinction between your attachments and your memories. Just thought of something else, though, because I woke up at 3 am and the fire in my wood stove had almost gone out. 2nd chakra = water... water always flows down. 3rd chakra = fire... fire always burns up. Was just reminding my son of that very important fact as he was trying to make a torch the other day.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 23, 2021 04:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chanterelle: 👍👍 Good point about being careful and specific about that sort of thing. Hadn’t thought about the distinction between your attachments and your memories. Just thought of something else, though, because I woke up at 3 am and the fire in my wood stove had almost gone out. 2nd chakra = water... water always flows down. 3rd chakra = fire... fire always burns up. Was just reminding my son of that very important fact as he was trying to make a torch the other day.
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 14291 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 28, 2021 04:05 PM
Relationship Inception Chart might hold the key.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2519 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted January 31, 2021 06:29 AM
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