posted October 04, 2009 09:27 AM         

The symbol of ownership, the symbol of future colonization.

All of it reeks.

The Scientific American btw is notable for it's longevity, [it is not a refereed journal] and it's debunking of creationist views v. science.
They also wrote a review of the book 'The Skeptical Environmentalist' [about global change] calling it...disturbing, and dishonest writing.

I have been watching the Ken Burns documentary on National Parks and find this disturbing. The human advance of progress rarely takes into consideration the long term effects of our so-called progress.

Still reading: http://search.nasa.gov/search/search.jsp?nasaInclude=LCROSS+Lunar+Impact+

posted October 04, 2009 12:48 PM         

Talk about an afflicted Moon which is going to happen literally!!!

Moon square Uranus scares the sh-t of me!

It looks like shocking, unexpected occurrences could be in the works!

ugh!

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 04, 2009 01:36 PM         

only the big ones that include:
Eris,Makemake,Haumea - dwarf planets along with Pluto and Ceres

Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion - dwarf planet candidates

Eris in 21'31 Aries
sextile Moon - '11 separating

Sedna in 21'45 Taurus R
square Neptune - 2'06 applying
sextile Uranus - 2'01 applying
sextile Varuna - '07 separating
sextile MC - 2'57 applying
semisextile Moon - '03 applying
contraparallel Sun- '09 applying
contraparallel Ceres - '58 applying
contraparallel Asc - '27 separating

Moon,Eris,and Sedna are in 12th harmonic triangle because Moon sextiles Eris,and Sedna semisextiles both

The Moon/Eris midpoint is in 21'37 Taurus

Therefore, Sedna is conjunct Moon/Eris midpoint with 8 minutes of arc

talk about "far out" controversy involving the Moon!

wonder if it could lead to some disaster that involves the influence of great bodies of water with both Sedna and Varuna being objects named after deities that rules the oceans. they were also linked to death. Varuna judged souls in Indian mythology, and Sedna ruled the Inuit Underworld.

there is more

Haumea in 16'00 Libra
conjunct Sun with 17 minutes of arc separating
conjunct Asc with 1'55 orb separating
trine Jupiter with 1'10 orb applying
square MC with 2'47 orb separating
contraparallel Pluto - '17 applying

Haumea is a transneptunian dwarf planet named after the Hawaiian fertility/creation goddess whose children born from fragments from her body. The actual transneptunian object has fragments from its body that became its moons as well as solar-orbiting transneptunian objects. It used to be big as Pluto, but it suffered a collision which resulted in much of its ice layer broken off.
It's very unique in that it's an extremely rapid spinning object, looking like a football that's been kicked. That due to the violent collision from another large transneptunian object.

Quaoar in 18'31 Sagittarius
sextile Sun - 2'12 applying
sextile Asc - '35 applying
sextile Jupiter - 1'19 separating
quincunx MC - '19 separating

Quaoar is named after the Native American creation deity of the Tongva tribe in California

Varuna in 21'53 Cancer
trine Uranus - 1'53 applying
square Eris - '22 separating
sextile Sedna - '07 separating
sextile Venus - 1'27 separating
contraparallel Moon - '26 applying

Varuna is named after the Indian God of the Oceans. I mentioned that earlier.

It's interesting that Sun is in applying parallel to Sedna,and Moon is an applying contraparallel to Varuna. Both are ocean deities with connections to the dead.

Orcus in 1'32 Virgo
trine Pluto - '40 applying
semisquare Sun - '13 applying
contraparallel Sedna - '35 applying

Orcus is named after the Etruscan God of the Underworld who punished people who broke their oaths.

I also checked direct midpoint pictures involving Eris and Sedna in Solar Fire.
direct midpoints can be just as important as straight up major aspects.

Sedna
conjunct Moon/Eris - '08 separating
conjunct Uranus/MC - '28 separating

Eris
conjunct Moon/Chiron - '04 separating
oppose Sun/Ceres - '54 applying

MC
conjunct Sun/Eris - '06 applying
conjunct Asc/Eris - '55 applying

Uranus conjunct Node/Eris - '20 applying

Mars oppose Node - '10
conjunct Mercury/Sedna - '53 separating

Node
conjunct Neptune/Pluto - '53 applying

Venus
oppose Uranus - '33 applying
oppose Neptune/Eris - '31 separating
oppose Node/Sedna - '53 applying

a lot of Eris direct midpoints

highly controversial indeed!
a lot of crap being stirred up
a lot of debate over it.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 04, 2009 04:43 PM         

First thing that popped was what Kat mentioned, Mars on the South Node. Then, cancer MC. Which is why I posted the chart as I feel it has validity.
Heavy 12th activity, Sun might move to 1H.

Glaucus there are medical asteroids aspecting too. 4581 Aesculapius and others.

All of this to sum says the moon is going to be hurt / damaged. I am looking for positives now, as they are there.

posted October 04, 2009 05:43 PM         

not to get too cluttered...what me cluttered-
11911 Angel is at 14 Sag...the Great Attractor.

posted October 05, 2009 03:14 AM         

And could the bombing for water be because of the planets alignment rather than the alignment showing it a bad day to bomb the moon?

posted October 05, 2009 04:12 AM         

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And could the bombing for water be because of the planets alignment rather than the alignment showing it a bad day to bomb the moon?

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Good point-
I have to remember the precept that astrology does not instigate. Particularly natal astrology. I feel we are born into an astrological moment because of who we are. Not the other way around.
So, that would apply here too.
There is a space history to look at, learn. Apollo is celebrating the 40th year? Something like that.
The flag thing never bothered me before hearing this today though.
Outsourcing has a redefined definition?

Launch: June

posted October 08, 2009 03:10 PM         

i have a friend who is a practicing 3rd generation psychic, who claims to have worked as a remote viewer for the government (for awhile, she found the possibility of psychic attack more risk than she wanted to take).

when i sent her the original link on this and asked if it sounded genuine to her, she replied:

"YES ! YES! I've known about this for years and so has everyone in Washington ....
The Santa Claus code was in common usage in Capitol circles .

Thanks for the heads up about the bombing date!

I read they were going to do it and that the woman scientist
who runs the peace in space project, who worked to get that treaty passed was crazed,
after learning that we signed and are going to do what the hell we want anyway ."

this is of course "hearsay" but i think she is a pretty honest source...

posted October 08, 2009 03:38 PM         

What has the Moon ever done to America? As far as I know, the Moon has never done any harm to America.

Is starting off with a bombing campaign the right course of action? Why not give diplomacy a try first? We haven't even tried sanctions against the Moon.

posted October 08, 2009 08:54 PM         

They say it would cost so much to tote the water, why not look for it on site...
in related news....
Obama hosts White House party where the stars (and the moon and Jupiter) are the real stars~

AND talks to school children:

posted October 08, 2009 09:16 PM         

http://www.galileannights.org/gallery.html