posted October 14, 2010 06:23 PM         

What law(s) did the US Chamber of Commerce violate. Please be specific. The section and paragraph(s) of the United States Criminal Code will do nicely...and you can post them right here.

posted October 14, 2010 09:24 PM         

There's no proof to show from the leftist geek who wrote the bullshiiit that Rove's group and the Chamber of Commerce were/are using foreign funds for their ad campaigns.

posted October 14, 2010 11:43 PM         

Neither do you.

It's so much bullshiiit....and the bullshiiit was whipped up because demoscats don't have a single issue they can take to the voters back home that doesn't induce vomiting amongst voters.

October 14, 2010
Chamber dismisses CAP charges of foreign funding of election
Rick Moran

The latest "charge" against the Chamber from Think Progress, the rabidly liberal partisan blog for the Center for American Progress is really out there. They are saying that the Chamber of Commerce received "$885,000 in "donations" from "foreign companies.

The Chamber blog dismisses this smear with a twinkle in its eye:

The U.S. Chamber hosts several business councils, whose purpose is to promote bilateral trade and investment between the two countries. They are run as independent organizations and most members of business councils are not also members of the U.S. Chamber.

For those business councils affiliated with us, their monies are considered "restricted funds" and are held for use by those business councils. These councils have been around for decades. They have never engaged in political activity--and they never will.

ThinkProgress is grabbing at straws. We look forward to debunking some of their upcoming "investigations": "U.S. Chamber Using Cash From Space Aliens to Fund Political Advertising" and "U.S. Chamber Producing Counterfeit Currency in its Basement to Pay for Attack Ads."

ThinkProgress, huh? Hurling unfounded allegations for political gain is progress, with a sputtering economy and near 10% unemployment? How about: ThinkRationally? These wild and irresponsible allegations make you wonder who is funding ThinkProgress ... and why.

Now that AP, The New York Times, and FactCheck.org have discredited these attacks, we hope to return to a serious discussion about the issue Americans care most about: job creation.

Among other creatures, George Soros helped start CAP and several of his liberal money bags friends contributed as well. It appears that Think Progress is doubling down on its idiotic smears by ratcheting up the charges to include monies that went nowhere near the funds used for election ads.

You have to try very hard to be that clueless.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/chamber_dismisses_cap_charges.html

posted October 14, 2010 11:53 PM         

My ankles are a little tired....

posted October 15, 2010 08:16 AM         

I judge you to be close enough to make an informed guess.

So, which accusation is "Think Progress" most likely to drag out next to pollute rational political discourse?

"U.S. Chamber Using Cash From Space Aliens to Fund Political Advertising"

OR

"U.S. Chamber Producing Counterfeit Currency in its Basement to Pay for Attack Ads"

posted October 15, 2010 10:14 AM         

where DID the money come from jwhop? since you scoff at the "trumped up charge", you must have some actual evidence to support that scoffing and accusation.

as for having nothing else to play with, there are plenty of people in this country who a) voted for the dems in the first place b) while not satisfied with the progress made so far in this admin consider it to be moving in the right direction and c) will come out just to make sure the tea party stooges and candidates for the insane asylum do not get into office! perhaps some of them will be "holding their noses" but what on earth is new about that?

dunno if you heard christine odonnell in debate with coons the other day but the woman - while relying on her little stock insults when her mental powers got stuck - showed little sign of brain life other than that noise kept coming out of her mouth. she seems not to have learned that a sentence needs a subject, and object, and a little CONTENT...

posted October 15, 2010 10:32 AM         

The burden of proof is always on the accuser. But, your little leftist twit at "Think Progress" has no proof to back up his looney-tunes accusations.

But, that's not the real game anyway. The real leftist game consists of trying to change the subject.

That's not working and it's not going to work.

Voters are mad as hell about demoscats voting for the Porkulus Bill, voting for Cap and Tax, voting for O'BomberCare, voting for the unAmerican Card Check, voting for Too Big to Fail, and voting for a 1.3 TRILLION DOLLAR budget to fund the biggest expansion of government in history.

Voters are not going to forget the demoscats did all that and they're not going to be deflected by bullshiiiit accusations from leftist looney-tunes twits at Think Progress.

So katatonic, here's a negative for you to prove.

posted October 15, 2010 11:05 AM         

however this is not a court of law, you are not a judge or politican, and though i am not a marxist, i do not have to prove ANYthing to you. the fact that i don't think corporations, foreign or domestic, are people, or that they should be allowed to outsource jobs and bleed this country dry, has nothing to do with being a marxist.

the fact that i think the rich can afford to help more than the poor does not make me a marxist either, but a realist.

more to the point, you cannot prove that i AM a marxist, and i am innocent till proven guilty. though i have noticed that YOUR chosen group don't care about that and don't care how much they have to smear the opposition - including accusing them of smear tactics!, a classic kettle calling the pot black - and confuse the actual facts as long as they get back in power. they have now chosen to bolster up a bunch of amateur, starstruck loonies as their vehicle for stripping the average working stiff of the most basic rights.

posted October 15, 2010 11:10 PM         

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you came into this discussion with an accusation that you can't prove....katatonic

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"So, demoscats are desperately casting around for an issue to get the public's minds off demoscat incompetence during this congress.

Demoscats have so revolted the voting public with their Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda that demoscats have had to resort to attacking everything in sight...hoping upon hope that voters will forget all about the bribes, unconstitutional bills they've passed and the generally revolting O'Bomber agenda they rammed through congress over the wishes of the American public.

So, now demoscats are attacking the US Chamber of Commerce.

After everything else they've tried failed, this really is the "best they can do".

Demoscats sure can't run on their records in Congress. No accomplishments there. So, they're running away from their records and running pell mell away from Barack Hussein O'Bomber."

Ipso facto katatonic.

posted October 16, 2010 10:42 AM         

more importantly what it does to the country? the one you "love" because you happen to have been born here...not that you have anything to compare it with except what you are told by others who agree with you.

whether the democrats have accomplished anything or not is a matter of opinion. that they haven't put right 30 years of handfeeding the oligarchs in under two years is no surprise to anyone who has any degree of discernment in their nature.

posted October 16, 2010 12:25 PM         

I understand how distressing that is to you to have the truth told about O'Bomber and his mangy Socialist pals.

But, they're such juicy targets of opportunity along with being F-ups of the first order. In fact, F-ing up is about all they're good at.

Still, I'm only scratching the surface of their misdeeds, screw-ups and illegalities.

When I said...years ago, that I would highlight leftist stupidity, illegality and misdeeds using language leftists could understand...the use of inflammatory language; I had no idea someone like the leftist Messiah O'Bomber was on the horizon.

It would be a full time job for at least 10 people just to get it all posted. But I have a life so, I just hit the highlights.

By the way, have you heard about Michelle O'Bomber violating Illinois Election law by campaigning in a polling place.

"Illinois state law -- Sec. 17-29 (a) -- states: "No judge of election, pollwatcher, OR OTHER PERSON SHALL, at any primary or election, do any electioneering or soliciting of votes or engage in any political discussion within any polling place [or] within 100 feet of any polling place."

Looks like that affirmative action legal education we gave Michelle O'Bomber was a waste of taxpayer money.
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2010/10/15/20101015_115641_flash2.htm

posted October 19, 2010 01:50 PM         

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as you were, then. you are entitled to your opinion, which in the end is all your posts consist of. generally little basis in fact...katatonic

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While I have maintained for years...many years, that leftists are liars and hypocrites of the first order...and backed up what I said here with facts; nothing could compare with the current crop of leftist hypocrites and liars.

Example: the charge by the Marxist radical leftist O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades that foreign donations to groups pulling for Republicans and donations to the US Chamber of Commerce are being co-mingled with US contributions to fund the defeat of demoscats.

Leftists don't believe history exists. If they did, they would likely keep their mouths firmly shut on most subjects they dredge up out of their cesspools.

Leftists act like they don't remember the flap over all those foreign contributions to the O'Bomber campaign. They also act like they don't remember the refusal of the O'Bomber campaign to make their donor lists public. Ditto for "Baghdad Bob" Gibbs and his merry little band of leftists who kept their donor lists closed away from inspection.

Now, these same weasels are demanding the US Chamber of Commerce make their donor lists public and well as the donor lists from a Rove associated group.

Leftists have such short memories they are easily defeated in any debate on just about any subject. As an added attraction, they try to change the subject when they get their heads held underwater in debates...or simply stalk off.

Here's another example of gross hypocrisy and piteous wailing by those attempting to make an issue of the Chamber donor lists...while at the same time alleging foreign donations are being used to fund political campaigns against demoscats in the November elections.

It's a great example of leftist hypocrisy.

October 19, 2010
Obama's foreign money can of worms
Thomas Lifson

The Democrats, including President Obama, have embarked on a disastrous campaign impugning the US Chamber of Commerce as a source of nefarious foreign money corrupting our campaigns. Not only has the accusation failed to resonate, it has opened a door that Democrats would prefer remain closed. And because Washington Post writer Marc A. Thiessen has taken up the question, it will be impossible to contain the very valid questions raised:

"...one of the largest labor unions in America, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), ... is spending lavishly to elect Democrats. The SEIU claims 100,000 members in Canada. According to SEIU's 2008 constitution, dues include $7.65 per month per member that must be sent to the SEIU International in the United States. This means that the SEIU takes in nearly $9.2 million per year from foreign nationals -- almost 10 times the amount the Chamber receives from its affiliates abroad.

Is any foreign money being used to fund the SEIU's anti-Republican campaign efforts? According to the Wall Street Journal, "The Service Employees International Union, one of the nation's fastest-growing labor unions, acknowledges that it can't be certain that foreign nationals haven't contributed to its $44 million political budget to support pro-labor Democrats." The SEIU is not the only union that takes in money from foreign members. According to the Canadian Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers has 280,000 Canadian members; the United Food and Commercial Workers has more than 245,000; the Teamsters has more than 108,000; the Laborers' International Union of North America has more than 68,000; and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers has more than 57,000. How much do these foreign union members send to the United States? If the constitutions of their unions are anything like SEIU's, it could be tens of millions of dollars. Is any of that money being used to help elect Democrats this November?

Unions have another source of foreign cash: dues from illegal immigrants. In an April 2007 speech, uncovered by the conservative Web site RedState, SEIU Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina boasts how his union's rolls are loaded with illegal immigrants. Medina declares proudly: "SEIU is the largest union of immigrant workers in the country, and a number of them are undocumented."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/obamas_foreign_money_can_of_wo.html

Leftists would be miles ahead if they simply stood on their right to remain silent on issues like this foreign donations nonsense. But, that's mission impossible for screeching, screaming, whining, wailing, shrieking leftists.