posted April 28, 2011 07:51 AM            

Some musings:

1. Many of those who we think are Jewish Zionists, they are neither Jewish nor Zionists. So many who give Israel a bad name, they are Khazars. A deadly warrior tribe.
Our respected patriarchs Abraham, Moses David and Solomon will weep if they were to be informed that Khazars dominate Israel.

2. The Quran is chiefly addressed to the non-Khazarite Jews. Arabs are given second priority in it. Moses is the hero of most chapters in the Quram and no book praises the founders of Judaism as much as the Quran. The Old Testament lambasts the poor Jews, they are cursed repeatedly therein.

There are technical injunctions against Jews and Christians on specific 623 AD Meccan grounds, that they be attacked if they support Anti-Mohammed tribes.
These injunctions became null and void with the injunction "Do not kill a man. Any Man".
Jihad against any civilian is thus forbidden as per Quran's correct analysis.
Another example:
Son: "Dad, should I hit the baseball?"
Dad: "Yes, Hit."
20 years from now the son cannot blame Dad for ordering him to hit everyone. The reference was only for that particular question for that particular event. Quran should be read and analyzed in a similar way.

3. The Entities who revealed the Quran helped the State of Israel defeat 26 over confident Arab Nations. The actual Jews are very much the chosen people of the Quran's revealers, and they chose the Prophet of Islam to confirm the Books before him.
Chosen People for what? To spread the Message of One God alone, and to stop debasing oneself by worship of idols.

4. Not a single line in the Bible says that God "sired" Jesus. This is biologically impossible and would destroy the fabric of Tiume and Space. Jesus is clearly the Spiritual Son of God, perhaps His favorite Spiritual Son. In any case no dad will sacrifice his son, that has been banned since Abraham was prevented from sacrificing Ishmael [or Isaac, depending on your semitic sect]. The wicked priests [who may have been Canaanites infiltrating the community] may have arranged for the murder to quell rebellion. Jesus knew his Alchemy and escaped death. If he did not live, the Merovingian dynasty may never have appeared.

5. So for all practical purposes, Jews, Christians and Arabs are one and the same. It is idiocy for any one of them to deny the other books. All books follow generally good guidelines, similar events plus some Sirian ET Programming, unfortunately Fear based. I do not think tribes focusing on day to day survival had the minds to write symbolic hebrew or aramaic poetry on Angels coming down in Fire and Smoke from Chariots of Fire [Read the Book of Ezekiel.].

Did Noah take two of every animal in a wooden boat or did he take two DNA sequences of every species into his spaceship, that which was laughed at by those who did not know warp technology?

Was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by Fire and Brimstone or by a Nuclear Weapon? What would an ancient tribal call an exploding missile?

6. Modern day Israel is a great game played by a Satanic Cabal. They are not Jewish but can incarnate into any kind of Selfish Human Body.
The Protocols were not written by Jews but by these satanists, and then marketed snidely as being written by Zionist Jews.
It will be not be surprising if these satanists are ready to sacrifice all innocent Israeli citizens in a World War 3 scenario after making them overconfident.

7. There is no Zionist Conspiracy. There is no Jewish Conspiracy. There could be a Satanic Conspiracy using all kinds of Satanists from many religions to merge the Lower Astral demonic plane with Earth by making Earth a chemically devastated polluted wasteland where humans have to volunteer to become Cyborgs to survive and be controlled centrally by the Satanists and their Masters: The Fallen Angels.

8. 170/400 American Billionaires are supposedly "Jewish". But how many of them are not Satanists? If all Jews were zionists or part of a conspiracy, there should be one million plus Jewish Billionaires. If the jews really had the support of Satan, how did Hitler arrange for 6 million to be sacrificed? Hitler was also working for Satan/Dark ET Emperor and he got rid of so many good, hard working Jews who could have sabotaged the Master Plan.

9. Rothschild Clan produces some of the most wicked people on this planet. Those who break the 10 Commandments can never be Jewish, no matter what they claim about their ancestry to cover up their dark deeds.
Bernie Madoff is nothing compared to the embezzlement of Americans occurring thanks to the Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc. Bernie took just your money, these entities want your Souls for their Master.

10. None of the wicked designs can afflict any human is he or she takes conscious control of his or her Chakras.
The 10 Commandments of the Jews or the Wisdom of Jesus or the hidden meanings of Quran, Gita, Buddhist Sutras ultimately help raise our Spiritual Vibration and defend against any conspiracy.

It is said in the Quran that though years and years of piety help a human reach the lower heaven, the highest Ascending Stairways [DNA Ascension?] belong to one who feeds the thirsty during a time of drought.

posted April 28, 2011 08:34 AM            

I read about half of what you have written because I MUST finish my essay for class. I am a bad student.

posted April 28, 2011 09:00 AM            

If the Satanists step away, Israel and Palestine can merge to become one of the wealthiest of nations. There was no animosity for centuries. Let me tell you an Arab Secret. Saudis are sh*t scared of Palestinians. More than the Israeli State.

Recently Hamas has publicly condemned the Salafi-Wahabi Sect.

Some months back so many Israeli Jews sacrificed their lives trying to help Palestinian prisoners escape from a fire. What can be a bigger gesture?

posted April 28, 2011 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
sweet. I have been moved twice.

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You sure get around!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted April 28, 2011 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
thanks lexx

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posted April 28, 2011 01:40 PM            

I Palestinians. Therefore Ami, I cannot be anti-Semitic, because the Palestinians are Semitic as well. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm well aware of that trick of anti-Semitic being thrown around.

What would you then call the Jews that are against the state of Israel? The Jews that are against Zionism and praise Mahmoud Ahmadinejad whom America and Israel view as their biggest threat. What do you call these people? Anti-Semitic?

posted April 28, 2011 02:34 PM            

Yes, there are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionists.That is quite right but what does THAT have to do with the price of eggs

posted April 28, 2011 04:43 PM            

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So forgive me for wishing that the state of Israel didn't exist. The people, again, are separate.

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While not as complex as s/he is saying, the gist is
S/he is separating the State (Zionist)from the people ie Jews.

You two are not using the term Zionist to mean the same thing. Different definitions.

IMHO, that`s what I`m reading.

posted April 28, 2011 04:59 PM            

People may say that do not have hatred/dislike for Jewish people anyone who is attracted to such a website as Chaldean put on DOES,from my perspective.
If a person did not, they would not be attracted to such obvious lies.
Many people are not attracted to that? Why not?
They do not have latent or overt hatred to Jewish people. They do not see Jewish people in the light that that website and those beliefs do.
I know this is strong.I really am hating,more and more, that I entered this discussion but it is MY people.
Who will speak up for them if *I* pass it by

posted April 28, 2011 05:37 PM            

The modern nation of Israel was born at midnight on May 14, 1948. The United States was the first nation to recognize Israel.

Zionism:

"Zionism is the national revival movement of the Jewish people. It holds that the Jews have the right to self-determination in their own national home, and the right to develop their national culture.

Historically, Zionism strove to create a legally recognized national home for the Jews in their historical homeland. This goal was implemented by the creation of the State of Israel. Today, Zionism supports the existence of the state of Israel and helps to inspire a revival of Jewish national life, culture and language."

A Zionist..as I understand the term...is a Jewish supporter of Zionism. What, the Jewish people shouldn't want their own homeland and self determination?

Now, there are some who voice the opinion the state of Israel has no right to exist. To me, that sounds like Hamas and/or Hezbollah claptrap.

posted April 28, 2011 06:18 PM            

Ami- You really see what you want to see don't you? I've read over IQ's response twice and saw nothing in regards to antisemitism. He clearly stated that Zionists are Khazars. Khazaria ruled for over 300 years, they were phallic worshipers (satanists)(also the architecture in DC is rife with phallic symbolism, just throwing this in there), they took up Judaism as the religion of their country and masqueraded as Jews. They infiltrated every country, every nation.

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1. Many of those who we think are Jewish Zionists, they are neither Jewish nor Zionists. So many who give Israel a bad name, they are Khazars. A deadly warrior tribe.
Our respected patriarchs Abraham, Moses David and Solomon will weep if they were to be informed that Khazars dominate Israel.

6. Modern day Israel is a great game played by a Satanic Cabal. They are not Jewish but can incarnate into any kind of Selfish Human Body.
The Protocols were not written by Jews but by these satanists, and then marketed snidely as being written by Zionist Jews.
It will be not be surprising if these satanists are ready to sacrifice all innocent Israeli citizens in a World War 3 scenario after making them overconfident.

7. There is no Zionist Conspiracy. There is no Jewish Conspiracy. There could be a Satanic Conspiracy using all kinds of Satanists from many religions to merge the Lower Astral demonic plane with Earth by making Earth a chemically devastated polluted wasteland where humans have to volunteer to become Cyborgs to survive and be controlled centrally by the Satanists and their Masters: The Fallen Angels.

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Hopefully that helps clear things up for you.
Moving on.
YOU said

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I think you hate Jews.
That is a "spirit" of Anti Semitism.

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Then I said

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I Palestinians. Therefore Ami, I cannot be anti-Semitic, because the Palestinians are Semitic as well. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm well aware of that trick of anti-Semitic being thrown around.

What would you then call the Jews that are against the state of Israel? The Jews that are against Zionism and praise Mahmoud Ahmadinejad whom America and Israel view as their biggest threat. What do you call these people? Anti-Semitic?

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Yes--I understand the Palestinians are Semites. That is totally non germane to the topic, Littlecloud.That would be obfuscating the obvious.

Yes, there are Orthodox Jews who are not Zionists.That is quite right but what does THAT have to do with the price of eggs

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Is this what you are upset about? Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm well aware of that trick of anti-Semitic being thrown around. I am not phased by the 6 million that are claimed to have died. (Yes claimed because the numbers do not add up. This is another story that requires another thread) What is that '6 million' in comparison to the 22 million Christians that were massacred after the Bolshevik revolution? So, who where the Bolsheviks? Long story short, Zionists. Maybe Christians should start crying "Anti-Christ!" for everything someone says in regards to Christianity. Sadly though the Zionists have made sure that Christians turn their back on their faith. What about the Armenians who were nearly annihilated by the Turks? Something that America does not recognize because of politics. Yet when someone questions Israel we must all yell "Anti-Semitism!" When we question the holocaust and its "facts" we are labeled anti-semitic.

Why are we allowed to question the existence of God but not the holocaust?

Now, I sit here scratching my head wondering where the hell is your logic that you claim to try to show me.

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The CONCEPT and PRACTICE of Zionism is very simple.
Do the Jews have a right to their homeland as listed in the Bible?
Some people feel yes.Some people feel no.If you say yes,you are a Zionist.
That is Zionism 101.

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posted April 28, 2011 06:27 PM            

Jordan was given to THEM.Israel was given to the Jews,at the SAME time.

The next day,all the surrounding nations attacked Israel.
WHY don't you see facts?
It has to be a spirit of Anti--Jewish,we will say ,not Anti Semitism cuz we already talked about that