posted May 28, 2011 04:49 PM            

trailer here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q

(entire documentary on dailymotion in 7 parts ** Edited**), I found a single link to watch the full length documentary on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

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The report (released by the UK government on the spraying of germs into the UK atmosphere) reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

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posted May 28, 2011 07:23 PM            

not really dissing this, pire, just couldn't resist. thanks for the article. of course we have this here, too, and then there are all the people, many of them schoolchildren, who were used as guinea pigs for vaccines; the women used as guinea pigs for birth control meds,

it's such a long list i reckon they will never get a conclusive answer on the damage done by any particular experiment carried out on us all...

posted May 28, 2011 08:16 PM            

the article was posted on the site where I found the video by a viewer in his comment.

posted May 28, 2011 11:46 PM            

I can't imagine anyone investing time watching a video on so called chemtrails when you can't answer a simple question on the subject.

Btw, it would also be helpful...and appropriate if you explained the purpose of spraying chemicals at high altitudes.

posted May 29, 2011 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by pire:
if your highness the scientist jwhop had deemed it worthy of his time to watch at least the first part of the documentary in 7 parts, he would have an answer to his question.

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posted May 29, 2011 03:35 AM            

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posted May 29, 2011 09:45 AM            

Without the Mindless banter and drivel
of how, what, where and when
again and again and again and again...
(As that debate is left to those who need to debate)

The WHO (which I am sure are involved)
and WHY are becoming hot topics of discussion
amongst even the most ignorant of Believers.

The fact remains
that we ARE BEING SPRAYED
in our skies above us.
Whether you prefer the term Contrail or Chemtrail
(and there is a difference),

All One has to do is watch with One's own eyes.

The skies go from blue to yellow to white
and remain so,
for sometimes days
before it rains.
At which point, is carried into the Earth's soil
when it does.

The presence of these chemicals/metals in the soil
are used as catalysts and conductors
for the use of HAARP, ELF and EMF frequencies
that have now taken form and shape
of all the monopoles and sell phone towers
( http://antennasearch.com/ )
that now drape the Earth's surface and terrain.
Connecting the planetary soil
with the atmosphere's ionosphere
and raising frequencies and vibrations in-between
through the implemented "wireless" technology
we all paid for( free rollover minutes!)
is what the agenda seems to be.
.

There is far too much information out there now
to dismiss this as residual vapor of "unmarked planes".

That is just ignorant and foolish.
But a choice, by those who wish to do so
and remain in blind faith of those they follow and trust.

I continue to "seek the Truth" though...
with the help of KnowFlakes
and people like Ken Adachi hear.
http://mirrors.wordsforgood.org/educate-yourself.org/ct/index.html

Forwarned is forarmed.

posted May 29, 2011 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Well pire, this is your thread so why don't you explain what chemicals are being sprayed into the atmosphere?

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a scientist mentions the chemicals in the video, watch it.

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I can't imagine anyone investing time watching a video on so called chemtrails when you can't answer a simple question on the subject.

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you have a limited imagination I guess. watching this video is not compulsory, but if you ask questions about it or comment on this thread, please, at least, do the effort to watch the links provided, or don't expect me to enter in a fruitless debate with you if you don't even watch the documentary.

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Btw, it would also be helpful...and appropriate if you explained the purpose of spraying chemicals at high altitudes.

Or, is this just another conspiracy theory?

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posted May 29, 2011 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Chahldean:
Halo Pire~

Without the Mindless banter and drivel
of how, what, where and when
again and again and again and again...
(As that debate is left to those who need to debate)

The WHO (which I am sure are involved)
and WHY are becoming hot topics of discussion
amongst even the most ignorant of Believers.

The fact remains
that we ARE BEING SPRAYED
in our skies above us.
Whether you prefer the term Contrail or Chemtrail
(and there is a difference),

All One has to do is watch with One's own eyes.

The skies go from blue to yellow to white
and remain so,
for sometimes days
before it rains.
At which point, is carried into the Earth's soil
when it does.

The presence of these chemicals/metals in the soil
are used as catalysts and conductors
for the use of HAARP, ELF and EMF frequencies
that have now taken form and shape
of all the monopoles and sell phone towers
( http://antennasearch.com/ )
that now drape the Earth's surface and terrain.
Connecting the planetary soil
with the atmosphere's ionosphere
and raising frequencies and vibrations in-between
through the implemented "wireless" technology
we all paid for( free rollover minutes!)
is what the agenda seems to be.
.

There is far too much information out there now
to dismiss this as residual vapor of "unmarked planes".

That is just ignorant and foolish.
But a choice, by those who wish to do so
and remain in blind faith of those they follow and trust.

I continue to "seek the Truth" though...
with the help of KnowFlakes
and people like Ken Adachi hear.
http://mirrors.wordsforgood.org/educate-yourself.org/ct/index.html

Forwarned is forarmed.

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all this information is scary sometimes. and fear is not even the begining of a solution.

posted May 29, 2011 11:34 AM            

Think about what you're implying.

The people doing the so called spraying are also exposed to the so called chemicals they're spraying...and so are their families. The conspirators who ordered the spraying are also exposed to the so called chemical spray...and so are their families.

Ummmm, does that make the slightest bit of sense to you?

Can't you guys find something legit to pis$ and moan about?

How about this?

A high ranking member of the O'Bomber administration is in favor of putting chemical agents into the drinking water to sterilize the American population.

Are you for it...or against it?

posted May 29, 2011 11:40 AM            

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posted May 29, 2011 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Just as I suspected; another conspiracy theory directed against the government.

Think about what you're implying.

The people doing the so called spraying are also exposed to the so called chemicals they're spraying...and so are their families. The conspirators who ordered the spraying are also exposed to the so called chemical spray...and so are their families.

Ummmm, does that make the slightest bit of sense to you?

Can't you guys find something legit to pis$ and moan about?

How about this?

A high ranking member of the O'Bomber administration is in favor of putting chemical agents into the drinking water to sterilize the American population.

Are you for it...or against it?

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you are the only one capable of talking about a program that you dont actually want to watch.

you don't even know what are the charges in the documentary. you don't know what are their facts and speculations. you don't know what they complain about. but you keep moaning. go figure.

posted May 29, 2011 03:41 PM            

the aerial chem sprays were also quite localized. some of the natives from those places have suffered similar unexplainable effects. as i think i said above, i doubt that it will ever be narrowed down to those experiments since OTHER experiments, like vaccines, birth control pills, etc etc were being carried out on children AND consenting adults...

what the authorities will NOT do is discuss the CURRENT experimental substances, though they don't deny there are such, either.

i have to report no ill effects from the experiments i personally took part in, innocently as a child and consentingly as an adult...though the ones i knew about i also discontinued when it seemed unwise to go on.

i do know several people who were in the first wave of polio vaccine tests on schoolkids, who suffered somewhat later from one of the common side effects of polio, SERIOUS scoliosis. so severe that their doctors wondered if they had HAD polio. well, in a way they did, didn't they?

but there are possible OTHER experiments these people don't even know about so it's hard to prove.

posted May 29, 2011 04:03 PM            

So much for the chemtrails flim-flam conspriacy.

Chemtrail conspiracy theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

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regarding the high ranking member of the obama administration, I would be against it, because I am not a blind partisan, like you are.....pire

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You mean because I'm against it, I'm a "blind" partisan? Non-partisan people couldn't or wouldn't be against being sterilized by their government Poo-bahs?

posted May 29, 2011 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
AND pire still can't say what chemicals were allegedly sprayed...or why they were sprayed or who ordered them to be sprayed or what the alleged effects are on humans.

So much for the chemtrails flim-flam conspriacy.

Chemtrail conspiracy theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

You mean because I'm against it, I'm a "blind" partisan? Non-partisan people couldn't or wouldn't be against being sterilized by their government Poo-bahs?

My take is different. [b]Any reasonable person would be against a government which attempts to sterilize it's citizens against their will. Further, any president which would hire a person...like John Holdren, who advocated for forced sterilization isn't worthy of the office and should be impeached for that reason alone.[/B]

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ok, it is not that I can't tell you what the chemicals are. it is that I can't be bothered to reply to your command. you come around this part of Lindaland as if you were the land owner and people owed you an explanation. I regret that I don't see it that way. I don't owe you anything. the answers to your question is on the video I posted, if you want to watch it, fine, if you don't, fine too. but don't ask me to obey to your command, that's all.

regarding the case of a high ranking member of obama's administration, I meant you were a blind partisan and hence I bet you would deny first then find excuses if it was done by republicans. obviously not if it was done by obama. I have this impression by your stance on 9/11, that it CANNOT BE AN INSIDE JOB. this dogmatic view that you have adopted is yours and I respect it, because I can see some positivity in it. I understand that looking critically at challenging truth might unsettle people who need to follow a pre-established way of thinking for their peace of mind. this type of people represent conservatism. they are afraid of change and tend to deny what threaten their values. they are a useful type that avoid the uranus type of energy to go to far otherwise. that's cool with me, may be because on some issues I may be like this. but just not on this type of topics. I am aware of the dangers of conspiracies theories taken too far, but I am also aware that the situation that the world is in today is actually looked for. the people struggling to survive, the lack of money not only in western world for the lower class but also for billions of people across the world.

posted May 30, 2011 05:45 AM            

Those who are spraying are being convinced that it is necessary, hence there is no opposition.

The actual controllers are doing this to prevent "Ascension" of humanity or any beneficial effect of changes in frequency from Cosmic Alignments.
Certain Metals like Aluminium, Barium etc prevent build up of Bio-Magnetism that can help the Pineal Gland attain awareness of Spiritual Existence/Paranormal. Fluoride has a similar effect too.

Hence, the water is laced with fluoride, and the air is tactically sprayed with Chemicals
so that humanity can keep filling the coffers of MNCs and their puppet governments.

There are specific diets to detoxify the effect of chemtrails. Organic Fulvic Acid will also help. And Organic Tamarind will ensure removal of excess fluoride.

posted May 30, 2011 11:10 AM            

I appreciate your candor and expression hear.
Much can be accomplished by these dialogues
for those of Us who understand their
validity, importance and immediacy.

That is the beauty of opening the Doors of perception...
What One has come to" believe" as" reality" and Truth
gets peeled away like onion layers
to reveal a more "truth".
The information is only scary
if we cling to our Beliefs
as IF they were " Truths."

Belief systems are a devise to manipulate
individuals into following a systematic Way of thinking...
and we All have them and follow them to some extent.
It is the "knowing" that cannot Be manipulated.
And we ALL "KNOW" something is terribly wrong
with the Way the Whirled is Being handled....
and it is not by a couple of "bad guys" "bad seeds"
"bad apples" or a far worse euphemism....."terrorists".

If that is so,
we are far more endangered and pathetic
as a Conscious Species
and deserve every last inch of our misery
to allow this to happen by "those in charge?"

Like age Old Tales of "make believe"
One has to look no further than Lewis Carroll's
"Alice in Wonder Land"
to standUnder how curious reality can get...
or the lack of IT,
as the rabbit hole is only
for the strong of Mind and Heart,
the innocent and the righteous,
my Friend.

Once you seek, you find.
Once you've found
Do you stop seeking?

Many do.
All most Most.

That doesn't mean the Hole stops going.....

And although I agree, the information One may disCover
can be scary in Light of our everyday treadmill existence
and even a bit paralyzing at times;
causing suspect, paranoia and disbelief at every turn...

We begin to find our Selves
a Lone
at our own Core
with all these layers of "belief" peeled away at our feet...
stripped away by each inquiry and reSolution,
Our Trust and Knowing replacing truth and hoping;
dissipating all doubt, worry and fear
that once plagued
our Perceptions, Thoughts and Feelings.

We are.
Who we are.
without
every Thing
else!

THAT is the FREEDOM
The seeking gives Us...
with "Truth" not setting Us Free
but the "seeking"....

And IQ~
Thanks for getting to the point of the WHO and Why~
and also the health tips...
I use them both as well as lots of Orgonite!

posted May 30, 2011 01:28 PM            

and if you believe they would doctor our water supply, why not the air? planes are already up there 24/7, not as if it would be difficult, is it? and at present that would be the obama administration or some branch of it or the military, wouldn't it?

posted May 30, 2011 01:36 PM            

disease, on the other hand, would decrease the population perhaps but not eliminate it altogether, while mental incapacitation could turn them all into slaves/robotics.

posted May 31, 2011 07:21 PM            

not only does it point out the possibility that GMO food will sterilize many HUMANS (as it has rats in labs)...it brings up another of your fave raves, the iron fist the EU "politburo" supposedly has on the member countries...

supposedly about 70% of corn worldwide is now genetically modified. the other day i was thinking maybe they are doing us a favour, since these plants are engineered to thrive despite heavy pesticides, maybe we will too? however those pesticides are used on these plants, and the best way to rout pests is to INTERRUPT THEIR REPRODUCTIVE CYCLE...charming, eh?

posted June 01, 2011 04:57 AM            

Interfering with billions of years of systematic evolution, so senseless. The same scientists who say it is safe will not accept random tampering of the control rods in a nuclear power plant. Genetic tampering is just as dangerous, it can create a self destruct command in some obscure protein command chain which the wannabe Craig Venters forgot to study. Just as they conveniently forgot to study the possible after effects of Thalidomide or of using lead in petrol.

posted June 01, 2011 04:57 AM            

Interfering with billions of years of systematic evolution, so senseless. The same scientists who say it is safe will not accept random tampering of the control rods in a nuclear power plant. Genetic tampering is just as dangerous, it can create a self destruct command in some obscure protein command chain which the wannabe Craig Venters forgot to study. Just as they conveniently forgot to study the possible after effects of Thalidomide or of using lead in petrol.

posted June 01, 2011 11:29 AM            

I already told you katatonic. Perhaps if you read more carefully.....

"Further, any president which would hire a person...like John Holdren, who advocated for forced sterilization isn't worthy of the office and should be impeached for that reason alone."

His name is John Holdren and he's O'Bomber's so called "Science Czar".

Any president who would hire such a deranged thug should be impeached immediately.

"John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population

Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?

These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force."
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/