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Randall
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posted July 01, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's nothing brave about terrorists, and there's nothing intelligent about defending them.

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PlutoSquared
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posted July 01, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
There's nothing brave about terrorists, and there's nothing intelligent about defending them.

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katatonic
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posted July 01, 2011 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds lovely ami. your jet or mine?

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Ami Anne
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posted July 01, 2011 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a right and a wrong.Thinking does not make it so.
It exists inherent in the deepest parts of the human if he will listen

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posted July 01, 2011 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one's defending terrorists, nor was there ever.

There's "nothing intelligent" about putting your head in the sand, and imagining that because you believe something, it's true. This is true no matter what the subject or the issue -not limited to politics at all.

Whether there's anything "brave" about terrorists is highly debatable.

Brave:
1. possessing or exhibiting courage or courageous endurance.

Keeping dangerous activities in your life, which the majority would find reprehensible and unlawful can certainly [with any logic] be considered brave. You won't see me giving up any ground on this position any time soon. Labeling them as "cowards" is self-serving if you're strictly rational.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 02, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is just me : where I am. My mother tried to steal my core.
The best way to steal someone's core is to steal their values,what they stand for, what they WILL stand for.

Yesterday,when I read this thread,something kicked in .
When I saw Jwhop and Randall stand for something real, true and good, it gave me something .

It is easy to be amorphous, stand for it all .
Other people know truth when it touches them.That is WHY they get so angry

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posted July 03, 2011 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"There's nothing brave about terrorists, and there's nothing intelligent about defending them."...Randall

TRUE

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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2011 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nor is their anything intelligent about saying they are all on one side of the fence. religiously or politically.

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posted July 03, 2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny, but I can't recall any Christians strapping explosives on children or mentally incompetent women and blowing them up. Can you?

Funny, I can't recall any Conservatives calling terrorists "Ballsy". Can you?

I do recall the idiot leftist, Janet Napolitano sending out a bulletin to police agencies all over the country allerting them to terrorists within...like returning American military personnel...like people with decals on their cars supporting 2nd amendment rights, decals on their cars calling for respecting the US Constitution AND groups who support the US Constitution.

Wow, now that's serious!

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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
exhorting people to throw bricks at windows belonging to the"opposition" - telling people that islam is ALL ABOUT JIHAD - creating spook stories about how the president is NOT ONE OF US - sporting effigies of said president - calling him and all liberals commies and traitors...this too is terrorism, jwhop.

and i don't recall how many innocent people were bombed by timothy mcveigh, how many people lost their lives thanks to the jonestown christian revival...or how many soldiers have been killed along with innocent iraqis and afghanis in the name of "freeing" them...

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2011 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
exhorting people to throw bricks at windows belonging to the"opposition" - telling people that islam is ALL ABOUT JIHAD - creating spook stories about how the president is NOT ONE OF US - sporting effigies of said president - calling him and all liberals commies and traitors...this too is terrorism, jwhop.

and i don't recall how many innocent people were bombed by timothy mcveigh, how many people lost their lives thanks to the jonestown christian revival...or how many soldiers have been killed along with innocent iraqis and afghanis in the name of "freeing" them...


Kat You got to meet some real Christians not these fakies you are looking at like Jonestown.
However,Kat and this is big : the real Christians will be very flawed so if you look closely enough as you love to do, you will find the flaws

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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2011 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami, the real christians are not that different from the real muslims. my point exactly, thank you! i am just saying christians have their share of terrorists too. and muslims are mostly peaceloving tolerant people in fact i know many who married christians!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2011 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
nor is their anything intelligent about saying they are all on one side of the fence. religiously or politically.

THEY ARE

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
ami, the real christians are not that different from the real muslims. my point exactly, thank you! i am just saying christians have their share of terrorists too. and muslims are mostly peaceloving tolerant people in fact i know many who married christians!

You are hopeless , Kat.
I give up ---flounces out, YET AGAIN


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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katatonic
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posted July 03, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and you are an ostrich, methinks. go back a few years. think the crusades...good christians off to conquer the holy land from the INFIDEL. anyone who does not believe in jesus or who questions the literal translation of the bible is a spiritual ignoramus at best, right? and anyone who believes in allah not jahweh by definition carries a throatcutting knife ever ready to draw blood.

how does anyone believe that a whole population of approx a third of the world is bloodthirsty savages? especially since their religion has created some of the most educated, cultured societies - not to mention TOLERANT OF OTHER FAITHS - in history?

only by sticking their head in the sand and refusing to check out the facts and the actual people.after all, glenn beck SAYS muslims are all demons, it must be so!

know any muslims ami? i mean flesh and blood ones? i do. they are interested in raising their families, education, nutrition, the arts, making the world a better place - it just so happens that all the muslims i know are not only well-off and very active in charitable circles but half of them are married to christians. they speak 3 or 4 languages, hold multiple degrees, write, paint, practice law, are VERY openhanded, live in the west and pay their taxes even.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 03, 2011 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Kat
I cannot discuss the religious beliefs of the Koran on the open Board so I will have to stop at that.

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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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posted July 03, 2011 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"exhorting people to throw bricks at windows belonging to the"opposition" - telling people that islam is ALL ABOUT JIHAD"..katatonic

You equate throwing bricks through windows as being the same thing as strapping explosives on children and mentally handicapped women and blowing them up?

In what universe are you living katatonic?

Further, you didn't bother to mention who was exhorting others to brick throwing. So, reasonable people would conclude you just needed something to say...no matter how off topic and perhaps untrue it is.

Btw, the Koran is full of passages devoted to Jihad...just for your information katatonic.

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posted July 03, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"exhorting people to throw bricks at windows belonging to the"opposition" - telling people that islam is ALL ABOUT JIHAD"..katatonic

You equate throwing bricks through windows as being the same thing as strapping explosives on children and mentally handicapped women and blowing them up?

In what universe are you living katatonic?

Further, you didn't bother to mention who was exhorting others to brick throwing. So, reasonable people would conclude you just needed something to say...no matter how off topic and perhaps untrue it is.

Btw, the Koran is full of passages devoted to Jihad...just for your information katatonic.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 04, 2011 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
has no one here ever heard of the IRA? do you think they were muslims too? the oklahoma bomber ring any bells? how about hiroshima? how many innocent people do you think christians have killed? two? and all by fair means?

how bout the ku klux klan? the salem witch burners? christians all...

it is the sign of an ADVANCED person that they are able to admit that their side is NOT perfect either. all i'm saying.

the fact that you have conveniently forgotten a whole thread about the alabama blogger inciting people to violence against democrats says a lot about you, jwhop.

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posted July 04, 2011 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
has no one here ever heard of the IRA? do you think they were muslims too? the oklahoma bomber ring any bells? how about hiroshima? how many innocent people do you think christians have killed? two? and all by fair means?

how bout the ku klux klan? the salem witch burners? christians all...

it is the sign of an ADVANCED person that they are able to admit that their side is NOT perfect either. all i'm saying.

the fact that you have conveniently forgotten a whole thread about the alabama blogger inciting people to violence against democrats says a lot about you, jwhop.


Kat
There is a spiritual battle in the end times. It is played out through flesh and blood i.e. people but it is much deeper than that.
To understand the depth of it, one must study.If you are interested I could recommend books.
All that is happening is part of the end times and Bible Prophecy.
It does not take us unaware when we study.
The Bible says' Study to make yourself approved."
So, the subject is bigger than a thread on a Board.
That is where you are missing the whole point,imo.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 04, 2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha

The KKK were and are demoscats, not conservative Republicans.

When are you going to mention the names of those who are just like terrorists who strap bombs on children and mentally incompetent women, then blow them up? Those who you say throw bricks through windows of political opponents...as though the actions are similar or related in any way.

You have entered the realm of "no argument" katatonic...by bringing up the IRA. If you're attempting to tie the Irish Republican Army to the American Republican Party, it's a strikeout!

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posted July 04, 2011 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, jwhop, i am not confusing irish republicans with american ones. i am talking about CHRISTIAN terrorists, and i don't give a toss what party they belong to. blowing up cast iron mailboxes on random street corners to injure random passersby, a trademark of the IRA, was not exactly the act of heroes, though many thought they were, believe it or not!

NOR am i saying that because there are christian terrorists all christians are evil, as you and ami and others imply about muslims.

and those KKK democrats are probably all republicans now ANYWAY, since being a democrat is no longer the "southern thing" to be.

and while we have yet to see an american christian terrorist use a child as a bomb carrier, that doesn't make our terrorists any braver or kinder.

any more irrelevant conclusions you want to debunk?

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posted July 04, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do NOT say All Muslims are evil--as people. No one said that.
That is not true.One should study their beliefs though if one is to be educated on the subject not just talking out of their ..............

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posted July 04, 2011 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so are you saying that because the bible contains some extremely nasty instructions about how men should treat their wives, that christians not only should but DO behave that way? how about "an eye for an eye"... or jesus saying a rich man will have a very hard time getting to heaven?

whether or not the jihad is "prescribed" in the koran what makes you think it is any more believed by muslims than those things are by jews and christians, especially the last?

i wonder if jwhop would care to quote or even link to the relevant parts of the koran since he apparently has studied it so carefully?

i notice that whenever a muslim LLer informs you that you have it wrong you disagree vehemently...are you suggesting you know the koran better than they? or what muslims think of said passages?

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posted July 04, 2011 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
so are you saying that because the bible contains some extremely nasty instructions about how men should treat their wives, that christians not only should but DO behave that way? how about "an eye for an eye"... or jesus saying a rich man will have a very hard time getting to heaven?

whether or not the jihad is "prescribed" in the koran what makes you think it is any more believed by muslims than those things are by jews and christians, especially the last?

i wonder if jwhop would care to quote or even link to the relevant parts of the koran since he apparently has studied it so carefully?

i notice that whenever a muslim LLer informs you that you have it wrong you disagree vehemently...are you suggesting you know the koran better than they? or what muslims think of said passages?


*I* will not discuss the specifics on the Koran on the open Board.I do not think anyone should and I don't think Jwhop will either but I cannot speak for him ,of course.

If YOU want to be educated Kat,you should educate yourself.
Your arguments are so ridiculous that I wonder if you are purposely trying to just irritate people.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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