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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 01:25 PM Believe me George did NOT mean "liberal" as this trash is today with all due respect ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 01:27 PM there is nothing leftist in my argument, jwhop. i am merely saying that the bible and the koran BOTH exhort the faithful to fight for their faith, to do foul deeds we would not dream of these days, and that terrorists come in all religions. also, some terrorists are cowards while others do meet the definition of ballsy. by definition terrorists are the "little guy" taking on the "big power" so they can't go out with an army, for instance, that ballsiest of methods for getting your say. they have to adapt their methods to the situation. by the way, i agree with you that using children as shields and perps is cowardly. and yet it could be seen as an extreme act of Faith, you know the kind that says those children will be rewarded with a far better life in their version of heaven than they are having here in servitude and oppression. while not equating throwing bricks with strapping bombs on children, the former is still terrorism, an attempt to INTIMIDATE the opposition who is painted as vile and dangerous - you know, the way you talk about leftists - and while talking about something is NOT the same as doing it, it often leads to people "doing it" and is therefore not okay when "just talking" is inciting violence. the brick throwing, however, was not just talk nor was it just one incident. the fact that you can't recall a fairly long thread about it is not my problem. it has been pointed out to you over and over again that just because YOU say so, doesn't make it so. so i am not offended by your attempts to belittle-and-besmirch me personally, sorry! thanks for the offer, ami, but i know how to use a library. i was practically brought up in one, and i am pretty sure my education stands up to yours...perhaps you would care to describe said books so i can decide whether i want to read them or not!? IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 01:36 PM and the fact that conservatives use the word "liberal" as something dirty and equate it with "marxism" just shows that conservatives don't know the meaning of the word. i doubt very much that you can speak authoritatively for george washington, ami. he envisioned a future where the country would take care of its citizens and lessen their burdens. this would have been called a marxist statement by your lovely teabaggers if made today. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 01:45 PM quote: i am merely saying that the bible and the koran BOTH exhort the faithful to fight for their faith, No way No way No way No way ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 01:51 PM Did I add No way ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:16 PM Well George Washington would be an UBER conservative if he got teleported to this century ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:25 PM Kat I mean Girlfriend You GOT to read the thing before you talk ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:30 PM quote: Originally posted by jwhop: All you really need "get up and go" for Ami...is to make sure you're registered to vote, and then...get up and go vote on November 2, 2012. As for me, I'm not much of a joiner; LindaLand being an exception. I vote Conservative all the way ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:37 PM Well Kat These books are very non"crazy" or wild about Bible prophecy. There are MANY so called Christians out there who are nuts. I do not even go to a church cuz many Christians are worse than non Christians. So, that being said--Hal Lindsey,Grant Jeffries and Dave Hunt are teachers of Bible Prophecy in an erudite way. They will answer ALL your questions about the Koran,jihad etc etc Everything you EVER asked here will be answered by these authors. I have read most of their books. I do not actively study it any more cuz I know enough from my previous study which was 15 years . The other WONDERFUL man is Walid Shoebat who is a Palestinian. He is one of the most amazing men on the face of the earth imo ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:40 PM The thing about this battle of terrorism etc that makes it SO hard to understand with mere words is that it is a spiritual battle between spiritual forces. If one does not look at it that way,one will not be able to understand it. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 02:58 PM I think one of Hal Lindsey's books is "The Roots of Jihad" It is something like that If you need help with the title I will look. Dave Hunt has one on the War between Islam and Something" If you are interested I will check or you can look on Amazon under the the authors names. That is what I would have to do.You can read reviews and see which ones look good. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9790 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 03:42 PM Even if Washington actually said that (there are lots of fake quotes circulated on the net), it still proves no point in your favor, Kat. A liberal mentality has nothing to do with the Democrats of recent time (who call themselves liberals). There's a big difference between what Washington was referring to and the left today. If you ask Jwhop, he will confirm that he is actually a classic liberal. So, I'm not sure what you're trying to convey with that quote. IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 06:04 PM why would i read a christian explanation of the koran/jihad, when i can ask muslims and read the book itself? i have noticed, ami, that you talk to our own local LL muslims as if they don't understand their own religion as well as you do. was that what the big Fight you keep referring to was about? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 06:09 PM quote: Originally posted by katatonic: why would i read a christian explanation of the koran/jihad, when i can ask muslims and read the book itself? i have noticed, ami, that you talk to our own local LL muslims as if they don't understand their own religion as well as you do. was that what the big Fight you keep referring to was about? Well Kat If you are SUCH a big shot--READ the Koran then? I mean--Girlfriend--You could try Mother Teresa's patience. I have no idea what you mean about the Big Fight .I don't want to know. LL is warm and welcoming so why try to bring up any former bad times. What is the point of that? I will answer my own question? Nothing ,Darlink PS Once again,I will NOT discuss the specifics of the Koran on here. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 06:10 PM @randall pardon me if i disagree with jwhop's assertion that he is a liberal. a liberal doesn't deal strictly in black and white, using smear tactics to beat down the opposition... as to washington, true enough there are plenty of rumours and misquotes on the web. but i really don't think you understand the wide range of political impulses on the democrat side of the fence. there are some serious socialists, but not the stalin kind; and the gap between them and others is often wide. the picture painted by the conservatives of every move the dems make is just a TAD EXTREME/SLANTED if you like. just as the picture a lot of dems paint of conservatives is overblown. but "my point" as usual is just to rebuff the more extreme statements made here, and point out that there are as many sides to a story as there are narrators... IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 06:15 PM once again ami you are taking personal offence at my asking for clarification! shall i give up and flounce off too? it is you that consistently refers to some big Fight you got into over the Koran/islam/zionism whatever...perhaps if you read with less belligerence you will see that i am rarely being belligerent, but making an observation/asking a question. i actually just want to know what these guys have to offer that is more complete than the actual text you say they are explaining? and also why you insist on being right ALL the time even when you are talking to people about their own topic/religion? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 06:23 PM I cannot answer your question Kat without talking about specifics . You are smart. Anyone who studies Astrology is smart. GO TO THE SOURCE AND STUDY IT YOURSELF! ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 06:53 PM This is how I feel Kat. You know how they have those pain charts in the hospital with faces of varying degrees of pain from mild hurt until you want to throw a brick through a window? I am getting towards the latter ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 07:11 PM well that's just it, isn't it? plenty of allusions to how the koran exhorts muslims to the jihad, but no specific illustrations...i have yet to find anything worse than the quote i posted. the koran encourages the true believers to fight "with those who would fight you" in other words, those who would stop you following your spiritual conscience/practice...NOT to go out and kill everyone who does NOT believe in islam. i used THAT quote because it is short and to the point. on the other hand, CHRISTIAN soldiers went out with the express intention of CONVERTING the "savages" in the middle east and northern africa. they INSTIGATED and the muslims FOUGHT BACK. just as MODERN christians/"democrats" marched into other people's lands insisting that they live the way WE think they should. and they are STILL fighting BACK. i don't consider killing innocents with drones any more courageous than hiding behind a woman's skirts, sorry! i feel sorry for the woman, but i also feel sorry for the thousands of dead people we have left on the ground. who is " braver"? david, or goliath? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 07:23 PM DAVID ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6649 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 05, 2011 07:41 PM that would be my first reply too. except - david had a weapon and goliath did not. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 05, 2011 07:47 PM edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 06, 2011 08:12 AM Kat I was thinking about your upshot to the David and Goliath story---Goliath had the weapon ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 13917 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 06, 2011 08:21 AM I don't know your Sun sign but I have ONLY see this type of reasoning in Aqua Sun-bar none. If you are not Aqua Sun,I am gonna have to revise some of my Astrology. The downfall to Aqua Sun is hubris.The form of hubris is TAKES in Aqua sun is they have to be more inclusive than any one else. If everyone is having multi bean soup, they have to have the soup with the most beans in it. Then they will smirk and tell you that your soup stinks cuz it only have 5 beans in it while their soup has 100. . They have a self satisfied look cuz they think they beat YOU in being MORE broad minded .Broad mindedness with little wisdom to back it up is foolishness. They made their bean soup with a thousand beans, every spice, the dish towel, the dish rag, all the silverware and the bed linens thrown in. Instead of being humble enough to have a simple lentil soup with a small dash of salt and a pinch of curry, they have erected an edifice to themselves. When they are faced with their own creation as will ALWAYS happen, they will not be humble and admit their soup is inedible. They would rather eat it. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5462 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 06, 2011 01:08 PM Wow! This conversation went a bit off the rails. Ami, this isn't really the place to be talking religion. Jwhop, I don't see Kat equating Conservative violence specifically to people using kids or mentally-handicapped people to deliver bombs. It's quite clear that a terrorist will use whatever subtle means of getting a bomb close to the enemy that they can. If that requires an approach that appears harmless, that's what they'll do as a tactic. It's certainly not courageous of them not to take a moral stand against whoever concocted the plan, but at the same time the plan has very little to do with issues of bravery or cowardice and more to do with effectiveness. The coldbloodedness of making these choices certainly makes these people appear psychopathic (inability to form human attachment and an abnormal lack of empathy) moreso than cowardly. IP: Logged

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