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Topic: okay, retraction time.
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Randall
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posted December 20, 2011 12:36 AM
  
That's your opinion. We can simply agree to disagree.IP: Logged |
mochai
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From: Charon
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posted December 20, 2011 05:36 AM
All of what I said is true. The School of Americas, now WHINSEC, is public knowledge. The Netherlands is under-reporting.. We promote putting neurotoxins in the water for dental hygeine, a practice considered largely immoral in the majority of countries and blatantly flies in the face of US protocol on many levels, and people line up to inject themselves with mercury year after year over a media inflated 3 day illness that many never get. The abject blindness and unreasoned logic of the average American fed by fear mongering conformist media fueled ideologies and distracting polarizing and or fluff issues cannot be understated. If people woke up and looked at the real histories.. they would start seeing us as being on par with or greater than Nazi Germany in terms of human rights violations and atrocities. We're just much better at hiding the truth and playing the heroine in public.Anyway, there are reasons I don't post on here anymore. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 20, 2011 07:51 AM
My comments above were directed at NJ. I never said America was perfect. Health practices like flouride and vaccines leave something to be desired; however, comparing that to genocide is a bit much, don't you think? IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 20, 2011 12:58 PM
lol at the "fringe material" comment. i read all kinds of material, including jwhop's FRINGE american thinker etc. or do you consider that everyone who agrees with YOU is "mainstream"?and how, pray tell, is killing millions of innocent iraqis - and american soldiers too - defending my rights, when right here at home my privacy has been sold down the river, the patriot act already arguably gives the right to due process away, and now we have stepped up even from that? defense happens when someone comes AT you. when 9/11 happened NOONE DEFENDED THE WTC. despite pretty convincing evidence that it could have been averted if anyone had bothered. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted December 20, 2011 01:02 PM
In fairness, we have been asked to "police the world" at various times in the past. I knew several people who served in Yugoslavia. One young man I went to school with was killed there. I recall the Europeans bitching and whining that we ignored the slavic genocide, I recall many Muslim nations accusing the US of prejudice because we hesitated to defend the Bosnian Muslims. Historically our relations with Europe have been a schizophrenic see saw of "yankee go home" and "yankee, help me out of this shithole." That said, I agree with mochai that US intelligence agencies have a habit of manipulating and outright bullying foreign governments, many of which were freely elected. Mossadegh being a fine and timely example. Come to think of it, also a fine example of a European nation requesting a wee bit of assistance.IP: Logged |
shura
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posted December 20, 2011 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
You seem to have a lot of hatred for this country. Despite your hostilities, soldiers fight and risk their lives every day to give you the right to gripe and complain.
fwiw of the dozen or so soldiers I know who served in Afghanistan and/or Iraq part 1 or 2 (some of whom are close family members) not a single one believes they were there to protect my constitutional rights. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted December 20, 2011 01:10 PM
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lol at the "fringe material" comment. i read all kinds of material, including jwhop's FRINGE american thinker etc. or do you consider that everyone who agrees with YOU is "mainstream"?
are there any "mainstream" media sources left?  If so, please point me in the appropriate direction. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 20, 2011 06:23 PM
The WTC? Did you really just say that? You think Bush was behind 911!  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 20, 2011 09:26 PM
randall you are TOO MUCH. go back and read again! i said that when we needed DEFENSE, as in WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED, those that should have been on it were NOT.who was it who excused that little oversight by saying "who would ever think people would use airplanes flying into buildings to attack us?" when it is fairly common knowledge that similar scenarios HAD been foreseen and there was even a simulation of something like going on ON that morning? but no, i DON'T think bush was behind it. i don't think bush was behind much. all i'm saying is that DEFENSE doesn't take place on the other side of the world beating the sh!t out of mostly innocent (victims even) people. it takes place WHEN YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED. and it did NOT take place then. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 20, 2011 10:47 PM
The whole idea is 911 was a wake-up call. The goal is to prevent another one. I much rather prefer hostilities be kept away from the shores of America. Were you not one of the people here who claimed that 911 was an inside job? IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted December 21, 2011 06:54 AM
One thing is 100% certain. If the US Economy sinks, the global economy will sink too. The moment the Eurozone crisis occurred, it was the US Dollar that rose the most. Not rupee nor Dinar nor Yuan nor Yen.
And this despite knowing of the huge internal debt of America. Imagine the global prosperity that can occur if USA reduces its debt by 50%. The systemic problems with America are not because of Americans but from deceitful manipulations of the Canaanite Elite, former Nazis and Secret Khazar Bloodlines that control the Banking System. Even in 1940s, Conspiracy theorists spoke of Pearl Harbor attack being allowed to occur because the American populace was against going to War in WW2. The NWO needs a politically weakened USA. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 21, 2011 10:01 AM
If China pulls out their investments, it could hurt us, but last night I saw where they control billions in American industry and are going to continue to invest more. ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted December 21, 2011 11:41 AM
You ever notice Randall, that even when leftists are utterly wrong...which is their default position...they nevertheless argue that they are somehow right!  IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 21, 2011 12:00 PM
i don't make any conclusions about 9/11. there is a lot of evidence, including eyewitnesses who heard explosions BEFORE even the first crash, that points to the official story being a wash. that is all i know. who the perps were is therefore still an open QUESTION.i have never said otherwise. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 21, 2011 12:02 PM
merry christmas jwhop. or should i say jwpot, always calling the kettle black? this thread started as a retraction. something i have seen from you only once and only after having your own words printed in front of you...IP: Logged |
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