posted February 26, 2012 06:41 PM            

it seems not just "leftists" think obama has thrown the right into disarray...

posted February 27, 2012 11:31 PM            

For the first time since late December 2011, Mitt Romney leads the president in a hypothetical 2012 matchup. Romney earns 45% of the vote, while the president attracts support from 43%. Romney holds a nine-point advantage among unaffiliated voters.

For the first time ever, Texas Congressman Ron Paul also leads the president. In that matchup, 43% prefer Paul and 41% Obama. Ten percent (10%) would vote for some other option, a figure that includes 17% of Republicans...........
www.rasmussenreports.com

posted February 28, 2012 08:49 AM            

Imagine this little berg being important `nuff for Rasmussen.....

Now off to vote in todays MI primary

posted February 28, 2012 12:19 PM            

Santorum said JFK's comment made him want to throw up. He's not the only one so affected.

BUT

At the time JFK made those comments he was the first Catholic nominee for President of the United States.

There was great furor that the Catholic Pope would be directing the presidency from Rome and that JFK would follow the directions of the Pope...instead of faithfully executing the laws of the United States and the US Constitution.

JFK was trying to quiet the fears of Americans and political opportunism of political opponents. But, he went too far, way too far.

There is not now...nor has there ever been..in the US...a total and complete "separation of church and state". Nor could there possibly be without restricting the Congress, the Judiciary and Executive branch...including all it's appointees, aides and staff members to only atheists...which in some quarters qualifies as a religion itself.

It was a mistake for JFK to even use the words.."separation of church and state". Those words appear NO WHERE in the Constitution and laws of the United States.

The words...not in that exact form...comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists; whom Jefferson got the impression might be angling for making the Baptist denomination the official religion of the United States. Jefferson headed them off and talked about erecting A WALL between church and state...by the Constitution. I note there's been a lot of discussion as to why Jefferson wrote that letter but there's no disagreement and could be no disagreement that Jefferson made his intentions crystal clear that he was going to uphold the Constitutional prohibition against establishing a state religion for the US.

Now, it will come as a complete surprise for most to learn that Thomas Jefferson attended church services almost every Sunday of his 8 years as President of the United States.

It will shock and scandalize most to further learn that Thomas Jefferson attended those church services held by Baptists every Sunday...IN THE MAIN CHAMBER OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

It will further shock some to learn that Jefferson permitted church services of other denominations along with other related church business to be conducted in US Federal buildings all over Washington DC when they were not otherwise open for government business.

To understand why the very first Amendment to the Constitution begins...."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"...it's necessary to know that large numbers of colonists came to America to escape the religious stifling edicts of the official British religion of the Anglican Church...which was it's self styled after and intended to be a substitute religion for the Roman Catholic Church.

They made absolutely sure there would never be a federal sponsored, federal directed official religion of the United States.

My comments would have been somewhat different than Santorum's.

I would have directed my comments to the 2nd part of what is called the "establishment clause" and ripped the hide off O'Bomber for attempting to compel Americans to violate the tenets of their religious beliefs and of their Church(es)..OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.

Santorum's comment lacked ummm, artful language but, from a historical viewpoint is basically true and he believes it.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

posted February 28, 2012 12:36 PM            

the main concern when someone like santorum starts SPEWING his beliefs FOR POLITICAL TRACTION...ie, in an attempt to woo the religious right...is that one has to wonder whether he would give the same right to muslims, jews and atheists as he does to his fellow christians?

or even to those protestants who work for a catholic organization?

the main issue with the contraception insurance is whether the catholic EMPLOYERS are entitled to ignore the rights of non-catholic employees, or whether government sponsored "exchange" policies have to acknowledge that catholics don't accept birth control. they are not REQUIRED to use those government approved exchange packages.

if santorum expects to be a realistic candidate then he has to make very sure that the non-catholics in this country don't think he is going to push his religion on them. so far he SAYS he will not.

posted February 28, 2012 03:05 PM            

Those are facts and those facts are unassailable by anyone who can read and understand English.

I guess that leaves out O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades in Congress who passed this monstrous legislation.

posted February 28, 2012 03:13 PM            

quote:

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Santorum's comment lacked ummm, artful language but

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Indeed and it may just hang him... high

And I agree with jwhops but in the above sentence

posted February 28, 2012 04:05 PM            

He declared himself against individualism, against libertarianism, against “this whole idea of personal autonomy, . . . this idea that people should be left alone.” And in this 2005 TV interview, you can hear these classic hits: “This is the mantra of the left: I have a right to do what I want to do” and “We have a whole culture that is focused on immediate gratification and the pursuit of happiness . . . and it is harming America

while i agree with the viewpoint on instant gratification, the rest is bulldung. the government has no more right to tell me what is holy than it does to tell the church what they can or can't preach.

if the government is going to stay out of religious matters, religion has to stay out of government, because whatever religion it is operating out of the whitehouse is going to disapprove of OTHER religions as much as NO religion.

his views on the INEVITABLE sharia'isation of europe and then america prove this out. we will allow NO INTERFERENCE with catholics but everyone else can go hang - or perhaps be burnt at the stake>?

posted February 28, 2012 06:18 PM            

One must ask for either a Dem. ballot or Rep. ballot , except for a voters registration, it`s the only requirements to vote in MI`s primary.

News said voter turnout is up 16% in my local precincts so the Dems are out & about

Anti - Romney Rep. voters are smarting over the bailouts of Detroits biggest so games on ....

Santorum MAY win but my money is still on Romney as roots run deep.