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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You tell O'Bomber to release any of his college transcripts or any of his Law School info in return for Romney's tax returns. That will shut him up

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posted July 18, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The left doesn't want to hear that. But yeah, Trump is a genius.

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posted July 18, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The left doesn't want to hear that. But yeah, Trump is a genius.


Yes, he seems to have a healthy humility, too.

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posted July 18, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Romney will be one of the most effective presidents in recent history...simply because he will be following Obama. Repealing Obamacare, reversing the EPA stance that CO2 is a pollutant, and rebuilding an unapologetic America as the strong nation it is.

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posted July 19, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conservatives that have come out in favor of Romney releasing his tax records:

George Will
Mathew Dowd
Rick Tyler
Michael Steele
Haley Barbour
Gov. Robert Bentley
Ron Paul
Rep. Walter Jones
Rep. Pete Sessions
Gov. Rick Perry

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Yesterday, Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer told Bill O'Reilly that Obama would win if the election were today.

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posted July 19, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Conservatives that have come out in favor of Romney releasing his tax records:

George Will
Mathew Dowd
Rick Tyler
Michael Steele
Haley Barbour
Gov. Robert Bentley
Ron Paul
Rep. Walter Jones
Rep. Pete Sessions
Gov. Rick Perry

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Yesterday, Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer told Bill O'Reilly that Obama would win if the election were today.


These people are idiots, quite frankly. O'Bomber is trying to make a non issue, an issue.

Lets see O'Bombers transcripts. ALSO, O'Bomber said he cut class and did drugs his last two years in high school. So, HOW did he get an Ivy league education?
That is a whole other can of worms I don't want to open but he has some nerve asking Romney for things when he won't give the simplest of things like a college transcript.

You know he did terribly or he would have it out there--Pronto.

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posted July 19, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He shouldn't.

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posted July 19, 2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether he does or not. I think he's right when he says that they would be used against him. But in the absense of him providing them, they're still going to be used against him. It's a lose-lose situation for him.

Equating Romney's tax returns to Obama's transcripts is apples and oranges. Let's assume that Obama was a terrible student. That means he was a terrible student that went on to become the President. Nothing particularly damaging there, is there? With Romney's tax returns, if he provides them they will be scrutinized as if he's getting an audit from a hostile IRS. We all know that couldn't possibly go well for him, and could very well serve to alienate him from more people. In the end, Obama's transcripts would have a net zero effect, while Romney's tax returns are going to have an effect one way or another.

I wouldn't have even posted in this thread for now, except that someone spammed the board with global warming stuff overnight.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama's financial aid paperwork where he lied about being born in Kenya would be quite damning.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether he does or not. I think he's right when he says that they would be used against him. But in the absense of him providing them, they're still going to be used against him. It's a lose-lose situation for him.

Equating Romney's tax returns to Obama's transcripts is apples and oranges. Let's assume that Obama was a terrible student. That means he was a terrible student that went on to become the President. Nothing particularly damaging there, is there? With Romney's tax returns, if he provides them they will be scrutinized as if he's getting an audit from a hostile IRS. We all know that couldn't possibly go well for him, and could very well serve to alienate him from more people. In the end, Obama's transcripts would have a net zero effect, while Romney's tax returns are going to have an effect one way or another.

I wouldn't have even posted in this thread for now, except that someone spammed the board with global warming stuff overnight.



AG
That is a ridiculous statement. I would show you my grades. Anyone would, if they got into college based on merit and did well when they were there.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's assumption Randall.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's assumption Randall.


He lied in his book that he was born in Kenya. His own publicist said he was. WHY do you try to defend O'Bomber when people give you obvious truths. AG?

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posted July 19, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're not obvious truths, Ami. If you were better informed, you'd know this. Obama doesn't write that in his book. His publicist, and his publicist only, wrote that. If you've followed any of the birther nonsense, you'd also know that Hawaiian officials have verified his Hawaiian birth.

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posted July 19, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They're not obvious truths, Ami. If you were better informed, you'd know this. Obama doesn't write that in his book. His publicist, and his publicist only, wrote that. If you've followed any of the birther nonsense, you'd also know that Hawaiian officials have verified his Hawaiian birth.


O'Bomber's publicist said it. Wake up and smell the espresso AG. How long are you gonna make excuses for this fraud?

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posted July 19, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long do you plan on staying uninformed about politics?

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posted July 19, 2012 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't doubt he was born in Hawaii. I also don't doubt that he lied to get federal aid (a felony).

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posted July 19, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How long do you plan on staying uninformed about politics?


AG
Try to out talk this?
He has a publicist and the guy does NOT know where O'Bomber was born.
He did not do his work in his last years of high school, by his own admission, yet he gets into top schools.
He will not let us see ANY of his school records for any level of his education.

Those are just 3 things. Try to defend each one, please

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posted July 19, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't doubt he was born in Hawaii. I also don't doubt that he lied to get federal aid (a felony).



OK That makes sense.

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posted July 19, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is it about O'Bomber that you make any kind of excuse for him?

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He's the messiah of the left. They will always support him. He was supposed to go in and fulfill the environmentalist agenda. Thankfully, that didn't work out for him, but he can do no wrong.

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He's the messiah of the left. They will always support him. He was supposed to go in and fulfill the environmentalist agenda. Thankfully, that didn't work out for him, but he can do no wrong.


It is like an incomprehensible brain washing. I get it with some dumbed down people, but AG seems like a thinking person, to me.I don't understand it, in people with critical reasoning.

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posted July 19, 2012 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, since when do you ask me to defend stuff? When have you EVER defended your views here?

Obama's publicist was a woman. You're showing how little you know about this.

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He did not do his work in his last years of high school, by his own admission, yet he gets into top schools.

I don't know anything about this. Nor do I have any reason to believe that you do.

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He will not let us see ANY of his school records for any level of his education.

And? What's the practical outcome of that?

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What is it about O'Bomber that you make any kind of excuse for him?

I don't make ANY excuse for him. I'm not an excuse maker by nature. I inform people on what is practical and what is not practical.

Randall, your statement is ridiculous...like saying things are Socialist and what have you. Labelling seems to be the Conservative way out of doing any sort of critical thinking. Obama's never been my messiah. He only became my candidate of choice by winning the nomination. I'd have otherwise supported whatever other Democrat had won on principle, not only because the Supreme Court needed to be balanced, but also because Democrats are better stewards of the economy, and are more responsible with foreign policy. I've never heard anyone speak of supporting Obama on environmental grounds, though Democrats are more responsible in that area as well.

Ami, I'm sorry you don't see or seem to understand the intellectual failings of Conservatives. I can assure you that the party that has national radio voices that the masses turn to is more likely to be brainwashed than the party that rejects talking heads in favor of individual thought. This very forum has never been short on Conservative platitudes that aren't based in sound logic.

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posted July 19, 2012 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG
What is so bad about defending O
Bomber when you are given ACTUAL facts from his own mouth( his book), his own publicist and his own refusal to share records which anyone who goes to college would share.

I am talking facts, as you always ask me to and you won't answer.

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posted July 19, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to listen to O
Bomber reading his book in his own voice and words.
'I did not study my last 2 years of high school. I smoked dope and did blow"
How does someone like that get into an Ivy league level of school and Harvard Law?
He has no business being there or as the president. You want to close your eyes.
You won't listen to anyone AG, even when you get actual facts from O' Bombers own mouth.

You have a totally closed mind. Why?

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posted July 19, 2012 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a busy day at work, Ami.

This is a rather strange thing for you to want to have a "factual" debate over, wouldn't you say? You now feign intimate knowledge of Barack Obama during high school? Interesting.

You know Googling your quote produces nothing containing that quote. Even when I properly spell the "two" out I don't get a single hit. [Obama "I did not study"] also doesn't produce the quote. I found a Breitbart article that sort of says the same, but not quite:

By the way, if you think I have Obama's book, you're on drugs. I could care less about his books.

I guess you might have to prove your fact, as well as how it prevented him from getting into college. He went to a private high school in Hawaii, and then went to a private university in LA. Private schools generally fare better at educating than public schools (in America anyway).

You seem to have gotten cocky on this one only to have me NOT find your fact anywhere. This is my typical experience here: Conservative provides "fact". AG finds no "fact" within said "fact". You want me to defend against your fact nonetheless, but what would it prove? You seem to think this is some silver bullet in a debate on Obama. I don't. I don't care if he was the worst student. He went to get educated more than either you or me, and he became President. What he did as a student doesn't really mean a lot in the end in my eyes. I'd rather "defend" him for something of some political substance than what amounts to nothing practical.

Oh...and also, I'm once again offended at the charge of being the one that's close-minded when the person making the charge is obviously the one that is close-minded. I entertain all manner of nonsense here in this forum. All manner. To call me close-minded for not seeing nonsense as "fact" is wrong. The more you guys are able to come to reality, and speak about things in a real and rational way, the more I'll be able to look open-minded to what you're saying.

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